Elections When Trump losses to Biden, will Trump supporters claim the election results are fake?

[AnGrYcRoW]

They wanted to impeach a guy presiding over a great economy with no wars for getting a blowjob.

Four year investigation that started with Vince Foster and meandered all over the bloody place

 

[Mike]

Four year investigation that started with Vince Foster and meandered all over the bloody place

Just looking to dredge up anything they could find. Funny because to me that was the end of the golden age. Bush came in and we had a series of unpopular wars and recessions. A lot of the deep divide we see now imo has its origins in those Bush terms.

 

[PalmaSoriano]

Technicalities though. Lying so Hillary won't stab him is fine with me. Lying to collude with the Russians or something, not so much.

I mean do you consider lying under oath a...technicality? I get the hilldog fear but no one cared about the bj

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Just looking to dredge up anything they could find. Funny because to me that was the end of the golden age. Bush came in and we had a series of unpopular wars and recessions. A lot of the deep divide we see now imo has its origins in those Bush terms.

It started with Gingrich and Limbaugh imo , that was the end of civility in US politics .

I was living in Miami at the time ( I'm Canadian ) I knew these two old black dudes who had a furniture refinishing business , I was shooting the shit with them one day while this was going on and one of the guys summed it up nicely when he said " I think he's doing a pretty good job , the man deserves a blowjob "

 

[andnowweknow]

I mean do you consider lying under oath a...technicality? I get the hilldog fear but no one cared about the bj

Perjury trap!!

 

[PalmaSoriano]

When speaking of opportunity, it's weird to hear the "I'm the product of immigrants, why can't the natives do better?" argument when you can clearly see that immigrants from Sub-Saharan Africa emigrate to the US with much higher educational attainment in comparison to US born black people.

It's easy to seek opportunities when you have a base to work with, which is something poor people across America, not just blacks, face in terms of social investment in their communities. And while people of all stripes face this problem, black people in the US are subjected to systemic problems like predatory lending, medical bias or redlining that make the struggle unique for them, as it always has been.

I think it’s a very valid argument. We all had to learn a new language, customs, in fact a whole new way if life....that’s not easy. I don’t know about Africa but in Cuba I could get a 99 or 100 on an exam by giving the professor a working fan...sounds funny but I’m being completely serious. The only advantage I will concede is that (for a medical degree for example) in Cuba there are no lawyers between you and the patient...so you are thrown out to learn on the job and you do your best....a free healthcare system at work. Eventually you get good on the job.....

I have to tell you man as an immigrant no one stood in my way or prevented me from doing anything. Like I said at some point you need to stop blaming “systemic problems” and advance yourself. The American born citizen is already 100 steps ahead simply by being born American

 

[Utahraptor Ostrommaysi]

This socialism is the devil shit is propaganda that stuck. By it's very nature, any functional society will have socialist elements. Every man for himself is a different system called anarchy. We're getting a little taste of that here lately and most don't seem to like it.

Indeed, hell the totalitarian communists of the world wish that their propaganda was as effective as the propaganda of the corporate socialists of the West.

 

[PalmaSoriano]

Perjury trap!!

I don’t think ol bill minds traps

 

[andnowweknow]

I don’t think ol bill minds traps

 

[hillelslovak87]

I think it’s a very valid argument. We all had to learn a new language, customs, in fact a whole new way if life....that’s not easy. I don’t know about Africa but in Cuba I could get a 99 or 100 on an exam by giving the professor a working fan...sounds funny but I’m being completely serious. The only advantage I will concede is that (for a medical degree for example) in Cuba there are no lawyers between you and the patient...so you are thrown out to learn on the job and you do your best....a free healthcare system at work. Eventually you get good on the job.....

I have to tell you man as an immigrant no one stood in my way or prevented me from doing anything. Like I said at some point you need to stop blaming “systemic problems” and advance yourself. The American born citizen is already 100 steps ahead simply by being born American

Yeah, Cuba is a bit different of a situation compared to say, Africa, which is where the people that the right is always contrasting American born blacks in with, to use the old "Why are they so fucked up when immigrants do fine?" line all the time.

There's a reason African immigrants come here and kick the shit out of most groups when it comes to educational attainment, and it's damn sure not the "culture" of US born black people at play.

Are black communities that have been redlined and deinvested in, are those systemic problems? I'd say blame should be placed where deserved, since admitting a problem is the first step to solving it.