When Rumble Johnson's team walked out on him

13Seconds said:
Why on earth did he try to do that? Not one reporter asked him about it neither. Ever.

We will never know.
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Because he wanted to lose and then give that exact retirement speech. One of the most bizarre, intentionally-trying-to-lose approaches in fight history. Hence the coaches being upset and likely not wanting to be part of that final act of self-sabotage (the retirement speech).
 
I heard it was because he threw his trainers yoga mat out of the middle of the weight room.
 
Rumble threw the every game plan away by trying to wrestle DC. To his credit he won the first round using his wrestling. But he gave away the fight.

Imagine if you're Rumble's team and you spent time away from your family, energy going into training Rumble and put effort into making a plan that would give Rumble the best chances of winning just to have Rumble throw everything out the window.
 
Dionysian said:
Because he wanted to lose and then give that exact retirement speech. One of the most bizarre, intentionally-trying-to-lose approaches in fight history. Hence the coaches being upset and likely not wanting to be part of that final act of self-sabotage (the retirement speech).
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You really think he wanted to lose?

Rubber explained everything. At his heart he was a wrestler and had pride in his wrestling which is why he felt so offended by DC insulting his wrestling. And too Rumble's credit he won the first of the DC rematch using wrestling. Was it smart? No. Was there much better strategies for beating DC? Yes. Does any of that need be was intentionally trying to lose? No.

And it's really bizarre to me that people would even try and argue that the went in there with the intention of losing
 
Respect to Rumble, but why are people suddenly pretending we didn’t call him “crumble” on sherdog? He quit on himself and had his speech all planned out. His team was disgusted and fucked off. Not saying they were right, but it’s quite obvious what happened. Rumble didn’t make a tactical error, he quit after DC recovered from being dropped.
 
Rumble RIP fought a equally dumb fight. He kept trying to wrestle n got himself subbed . He was maybe best stand up fighter or most feared at time.
 
I imagine in the moment, AJ's corner wasn't happy with him.
 
Bend NvR Break said:
You really think he wanted to lose?

Rubber explained everything. At his heart he was a wrestler and had pride in his wrestling which is why he felt so offended by DC insulting his wrestling. And too Rumble's credit he won the first of the DC rematch using wrestling. Was it smart? No. Was there much better strategies for beating DC? Yes. Does any of that need be was intentionally trying to lose? No.

And it's really bizarre to me that people would even try and argue that the went in there with the intention of losing
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I think that's what happened for a few reasons. In order from least to biggest reasons here goes:

1. He didn't have success with it. Then continued with it. That is like investing in a stock that crashes and your logic is to pump more money into it for no logical reason.
2. According to his coaches they trained absolutely nothing like that. This was reinforced by them reaming him after the first. Then he went out and did it more.
3. His post-fight speech. Any doubt I had prior was removed. It'd be one thing if he was "damn he got me" but he pretty much openly said he wasn't into fighting and wanted to not do it anymore professionally. That reflects entirely that he didn't want to win/continue with his career at that point in his life.

I don't know anything for sure, I'm just a jackass online. But every facet of the fight looks to me like he didn't want to compete anymore, up to and including his post-fight speech saying it explicitly. There are weird "dumb ass gameplans gone wrong" instances in this sport's history... this wasn't one of them IMHO. This plan was silly enough (and consistent enough) to be read as intentionally losing.
 
Dionysian said:
I think that's what happened for a few reasons. In order from least to biggest reasons here goes:

1. He didn't have success with it. Then continued with it. That is like investing in a stock that crashes and your logic is to pump more money into it for no logical reason.
2. According to his coaches they trained absolutely nothing like that. This was reinforced by them reaming him after the first. Then he went out and did it more.
3. His post-fight speech. Any doubt I had prior was removed. It'd be one thing if he was "damn he got me" but he pretty much openly said he wasn't into fighting and wanted to not do it anymore professionally. That reflects entirely that he didn't want to win/continue with his career at that point in his life.

I don't know anything for sure, I'm just a jackass online. But every facet of the fight looks to me like he didn't want to compete anymore, up to and including his post-fight speech saying it explicitly. There are weird "dumb ass gameplans gone wrong" instances in this sport's history... this wasn't one of them IMHO. This plan was silly enough (and consistent enough) to be read as intentionally losing.
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I get what you're saying actually. That he kinda just didn't care anymore. He was over MMA. Which is kinda crazy because he did come back.

I just have a really hard time believing when he was walking out he was telling himself "yeah I'm going to lose this."

It still irks me because he broke DC's nose with a HK in round one. There was a path for a Rumble victory and it's like Rumble intentionally avoided that path to test his wrestling against DC
 
RIP Johnson he was at the top of JBG disciples sending everyone not named DC to the Shawdow realm to meet the former versions of Liddell.
 
I was nearly as angry as his coaches after that. He really could have won that fight, and I was beyond hyped for it... thinking he learned and was going to give him the Glover treatment. RIP
 
NoSmilez said:
I guess Rumble didn't follow the game plan or something. His coach is a Dutch standup guy. I don't think he understands how DC can grind people out.
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Was their second fight...pretty sure he knew that...since that's literally how Cormier beat him the first time...
 
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