When GSP beat Hendricks :

[macaronicaesar]

I should say ended his career. More accurate?

Went 1-5 and missed weight 4 times post USADA.

Worst drop off of any top 10 athlete in the UFC.

Not just top 10 athlete in the UFC, it’s the worst drop off of any athlete in all of sports. I had Hendricks ahead on my first viewing too, but I’ve rewatched several times now and think GSP legitimately won this fight, so do his haters, but they’ll never admit it.

 

[macaronicaesar]

Bisping was damaged goods after getting his chin wrecked by old man Silva and old man Hendo

Haha, talk about living rent free in someone’s head. Sorry boss, it’s not GSP’s fault that Anderson decided to tarnish his own career by popping and fighting long past his expiry date, you’ll have to take that up with Anderson. Haha loser.

 

[macaronicaesar]

My favorite part of gsp threads is when thunderpuss and others atrempt to legitimize matt serra, dan hardy, thiago alves and josh koscheck as all time.great wins.

Ive posted every gsp opponents record from.the gsp fight thru the end of their careers or current and they all have losing records aside from.fitch. every single fighter went on to be .500 or less. Which means once they fought for a title they had to fight good fighters and they all lost because to get to a title shot at ww back then you had to have a pulse.

Hey credit to Georges he beat them all by decision but not one of his opponents were all time greats aside from Hughes who was almost 40 when Georges finally beat him, out of weight class bj and Jake sheilds who beat the shit out of Georges for two rounds on the feet.

Georges built his paper thin legacy on the Ivan menjivars and Dan Hardys of the world.

. No one has fought in a weaker division and beaten more bums than Anderson Silva. Rich Franklin is his best win ffs. Gtfo here.

 

[bjpenngoat]

. No one has fought in a weaker division and beaten more buns than Anderson Silva. Rich Franklin is his best win ffs. Gtfo here.

That is debatable but what is not debatable is that Anderson demolished and finished almost all.of them. Georges didn't.

 

[TheMessiah]

. No one has fought in a weaker division and beaten more buns than Anderson Silva. Rich Franklin is his best win ffs. Gtfo here.

Andersons resume is far more impressive. Gsps consists of LWs like Penn, Sherk, Serra and one dimensional guys like Hardy, Hughes etc... And he still couldn't finish most of them

 

[Everbest]

Andersons resume is far more impressive. Gsps consists of LWs like Penn, Sherk, Serra and one dimensional guys like Hardy, Hughes etc... And he still couldn't finish most of them

Only GSP fangirls think GSP's resume is more impressive.

The reason cannot be spelled out. But everyone knows it.

 

[bjpenngoat]

Anderson demolished and finished rich franklin and Dan Henderson both in their primes. The only fight that gsp ever finished was Hughes because matt was almost 40 and way past prime. In their primes matt made Georges look like a white belt on the ground. Anderson made guys look like they never trained a day in their lives. Gsp made guys like Jake shields look like Ernesto hoost for two rounds.

 

[ThunderStruck]

hmmm... nah.

He literally disqualified Visible Damage as a non-factor in the Scorin´System.
In other words, he didnt even acknowledge your simplistic dichotomy legit/"cosmetic" Damage....

Do you... agree.. with that 'assessment', lil Disciple...?

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I think that a lucky cut caused by a glancing punch shouldn't score much points unless its a fight ending cut. But in that case it would look fluke-ish. When the fighter is obviously trying to land a glancing elbow specifically to open a cut now that should be scored more.

About bruises. Of course fighters with soft skins should get a pass for bruising easily. Bruises doesnt equate brain damage. Example Shogun vs hendo 1, Hendo barely ever bruises while Shogun marks pretty easily. One would think that Hendo won the fight handily just because Shogun's face looked bad while Hendo has a thick ass skin. But they both hurt each other a lot.

If a fighter X lands a soft jab and it bruises the fighter Y who is known for bruising easily. But then fighter Y lands a hard jab but doesn't leave a mark on fighter X. What should be scored more?

 

[gono btw]

I think that a lucky cut caused by a glancing punch shouldn't score much points unless its a fight ending cut. But even that it looks flukish. When the fighter is obviously trying to land a glancing elbow specifically to open a cut now that should be scored more.

Nah. I didnt ask for your opinion, yours or mine are irrelevant here.

I asked you about Visible Damage & how it is/was assessed in 2013 [1 year after the 2012 changes].
The other poster claims that Visible Damage has no influence whatsover in that Scorin´System. None.

Do you agree, accordin´to your knowledge on that Scorin´System?

 

[ThunderStruck]

Nah. I didnt ask for your opinion, yours or mine are irrelevant here.

I asked you about Visible Damage & how it is/was assessed in 2013 [1 year after the 2012 changes].
The other poster claims that Visible Damage has no influence whatsover in that Scorin´System. None.

Do you agree, accordin´to your knowledge on that Scorin´System?

I don't care, thats your argument with the other guy you shit face. Read my last post again I added 2 paragraphs.

 

[gono btw]

What should be scored more?

Well, lil Disciple... You didnt wanna give a straight answer, but since you´ve assessed a qualitative difference between technical sequences [+or- scorin´], this necessarily implies that you´re disqualiyin´that other poster´s grotesque narrative [ that NO Visible Damage is part of the Scorin´System].

Overall, since both of you have never ever read that Scorin´System & its successive changes since 2012:

1. The Dichotomy is not between legit & "cosmetic" [sic... talk like a man, m´f´kah...] damage. There´s a specific terminology linked to Scorin´Systems. Be it UFC or Pride, the distinction is between Heavier Strikes & Cumulative ones.
2. All Scorin´Systems have a slidin´scale.
3. Consequently, there´s a hierarchy between criteria, but also between sub-criteria.
4. Effective Strikin´in that System aknowledges the qualitative difference between Heavier strikes & cumulative ones, accordin´to the System´s main paradigm.
5. That said, even if cumulative strikes [those that progressively add to the Visible Damage, without bein´significant enough to be potentially fight-endin´] are less rewarded, they are still... rewarded.
6. In case of no legit Heavier Strikes, those cumulative strikes are the ones assessed as Effective Strikin´.

I don't care, thats your argument with the other guy you shit face. Read my last post again I added 2 paragraphs.

Then why did you interfere?

Spoiler

 

[Druken_Vovchanchyn]

This is what I call being OWNED, lol, great post.

WOW 2013 and 115 messages. Thanks for the response lol. Yeah its pretty foolish to use GSP's face as a means to declare victory. Truth be told anyone who watched GSP could tell you i didnt even get all the fights he won but took damage in. Anyways thanks for the like!

 

[macaronicaesar]

Andersons resume is far more impressive. Gsps consists of LWs like Penn, Sherk, Serra and one dimensional guys like Hardy, Hughes etc... And he still couldn't finish most of them

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

[macaronicaesar]

Andersons resume is far more impressive. Gsps consists of LWs like Penn, Sherk, Serra and one dimensional guys like Hardy, Hughes etc... And he still couldn't finish most of them

You’re confused bro, the WW division was the most stacked while MW was weak as piss. I suspect you know this already, but your attempt to rewrite history has failed miserably.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Andersons resume is far more impressive. Gsps consists of LWs like Penn, Sherk, Serra and one dimensional guys like Hardy, Hughes etc... And he still couldn't finish most of them

Penn and Hughes are two wins better than anything Silva has on his resume lol
Not hard to have great finishes when you crush cans.
GSP was dispatching with ease all time greats

 

[TheMessiah]

Penn and Hughes are two wins better than anything Silva has on his resume lol
Not hard to have great finishes when you crush cans.
GSP was dispatching with ease all time greats

Penn was a LW and one dimensional Hughes would get destroyed in today's division. Dan H and Vitor are far more impressive wins

 

[Bouboumaster]

Penn was a LW and one dimensional Hughes would get destroyed in today's division. Dan H and Vitor are far more impressive wins

Hughes was at the time the best MMA fighter on the planet not named Fedor and it took the GOAT to beat him and take his place.
Don't hold against GSP the fact that he was/is a pioneer that is the model for the modern MMA fighter.
WW is also >>>> MW as far as talent pool goes and it's not like Anderson Silva didn't fought his fair share of bloated WW too lol
(Maia, Cote, Nate The Great, Nick fucking Diaz (Silva had a worse showing than GSP AND still got caught for steroids, what a loser lol) and Okami)

Penn was the GOAT LW when GSP fought him but was a former WW champ too.

Henderson isn't a bad victory, but GSP's victories over Hughes, Penn and Shields are all >>> that one. Same goes for Belfort.

And before you even think to bring Serra to the discussion: Chonan, Takase, and who the fuck is Azeredo?

 

[ThunderStruck]

Anderson demolished and finished rich franklin and Dan Henderson both in their primes. The only fight that gsp ever finished was Hughes because matt was almost 40 and way past prime. In their primes matt made Georges look like a white belt on the ground. Anderson made guys look like they never trained a day in their lives. Gsp made guys like Jake shields look like Ernesto hoost for two rounds.

33 years old fully in his prime Hughes who was coming off a win over the guy in your avatar. But you know all of that cause i called you on your 40 years old bullshit a dozen times before yet you keep repeating your pathetic lie. You are such a shitter.

 

[TheMessiah]

Hughes was at the time the best MMA fighter on the planet not named Fedor and it took the GOAT to beat him and take his place.
Don't hold against GSP the fact that he was/is a pioneer that is the model for the modern MMA fighter.
WW is also >>>> MW as far as talent pool goes and it's not like Anderson Silva didn't fought his fair share of bloated WW too lol
(Maia, Cote, Nate The Great, Nick fucking Diaz (Silva had a worse showing than GSP AND still got caught for steroids, what a loser lol) and Okami)

Penn was the GOAT LW when GSP fought him but was a former WW champ too.

Henderson isn't a bad victory, but GSP's victories over Hughes, Penn and Shields are all >>> that one. Same goes for Belfort.

And before you even think to bring Serra to the discussion: Chonan, Takase, and who the fuck is Azeredo?

They were good wins back then. But MMA has moved on and Hughes would get destroyed in today's division and Penn would be way too small to compete at WW. Vitor and Dan H are far more well rounded

 

[Bouboumaster]

They were good wins back then. But MMA has moved on and Hughes would get destroyed in today's division and Penn would be way too small to compete at WW. Vitor and Dan H are far more well rounded

Neither Belfort nor Henderson are close to be as complete as BJ Penn lol
And would Hughes really get drestroyed?
Usman and Khabib bread and butter is rushing people with their wrestling. This is Hughes whole thing.
Yes, the MMA evolved a lot, but I'd say that GSP's reign is the main reason why it evolved that much.
Fighter now try to be like him: Jack Of All Trades, Masters Of None.