It's not a knock on Terell to say that he was middle of the road in that era. But he really was technically speaking. He lacked the X factor, both in and outside the ring. Jermaine Franklin strikes me as a similar type of guy.
he had good fast hands and was a big guy, he didn't do much with ali, i found Foster's criticism interesting. Foster was a gutsy guy ,had to be to fight that many big men at his size so I gave his opinion some weight when I saw it.
I brought up Ali and Jim Brown's pseudo match, Jim, who was a good athlete and I think did have some knowledge of boxing was under the impression he could whup ali. Bob Arum thought so too and so Ali explained how ridiculous it was and told jim to hit him, Jim couldn't even touch him, in shape, outta shape, so what. That's how it's supposed to be. This Sample ali gave was outside the ring, no gloves, on the street but he was showing bighead Jim just how useless he was in his game.
i'm not saying everyone today is more skilled, but i would expect the majority of today's elite to beat their predecessors from 50 years ago.
jermaine franklin? is he considered the top of the HW division?
When a close fight is drawish that usually means it could've gone either way. I know posters on here that had it for Whyte by a hair. He hurt Franklin late and upped his output when Franklin started to slow down. Boxing is full of decisions that are deemed unpopular or controversial to a degree. Does it automatically make them robberies? No.
The status of a boxing champ has gone down? If anything their social & financial status has gone up. Way up. Many boxing champs are making more now than they ever have (that's before or after adjusting for inflation). With the Saudis so actively involved now their paydays are just that much bigger. We have fighters that aren't even world champs making millions per fight. Ryan Garcia just made $30+ million fighting Tank Davis on PPV and that was right here in the US without the Saudis.
That is the same of every sport. Sports have more ways to generate revenue now than in the 60s.
They have more revenue streams at their disposal. Sports contracts have also never been bigger.
crazy how for most pro athletes, they end up just as broke. Was a great 30/30 episode on the subject. The purses/contracts with their big figures are deceptively bloated.
They spend money like it's nothing. Bad investments. Financial mismanagement galore. I'm not surprised, really.
yup, that's what the docu said, most of the money was lost on bad investments. Someone on the show pointed out that putting money in some sort of fund that generates a modest return just wasn't sexy as having a nightclub or a record label or some other stupid shit. The one thing that seems to be working these days is the cannabis. Shawn Kemp has a few in my area that are pretty popular. He also had a restaurant at one point, I met a mexican who worked for him, said he was a nice, generous guy who gave him some multithousand dollar bonus after a manager gave him a hard time, he also fired the manager. Not sure how he lost the restaurant but I've never heard a bad word about him and don't know what that shootout a while ago involving him was about.
I knew about Mike's cannabis business. Shawn Kemp became Shawn Hemp? Didn't know that. With guys like Mike & Mayweather that've built such massive brands they'll always have some money lying around. They're only ever one exhibition or commercial advertisement away from having millions deposited into their respective bank accounts. Such high profile athletes like those two don't just earn money they practically generate their own revenue.
I don't know, rumors about them all being broke have come out at some point. Impossible ot verify because men have an ego thing that makes them want to keep that stiff upper lip. In earlier times, Joe Louis and Ray Robinson both were hounded for everything by the IRS, Ali was known to be broke by the mid 80's and I could believe that with the way he didn't give a shit about something everyone else would sell their mothers down the rivers for. Most boxers end up broke, the ones who don't are usually known to be frugal and cheap (Hagler,Holmes, Marciano).
I've heard the same rumors but who knows. I'm sure Mayweather probably has an offshore bank account that nobody knows about. Tax evasion has always been a real issue with fighters. They'll owe large sums of money in back taxes going back decades.
Entertainers of nearly any background go broke. Bad investments is a big part of it, but also their income is highly volatile. You can go from making millions of dollars one year to making nothing.
athletes are different in that they have a smaller window than a singer to make money. Sure, a singer's career can end just as fast as an athletes but they don't really lose all their talent overnight like athletes can. Singers can go broke regularly and sill maybe go on tour or make a film and be solvent. And for whatever reason, athletes don't have the rep for being very bright and get taken advantage of.
