Opinion What's Your Opinion of Patrick Bet-David?

[Hollywood Jack]

I've known about Bet-David for a while now, but he's been more on my radar lately because of his interviews with Kyle Kulinski (Justice Democrats, Secular Talk, Krystal Kyle & Friends) and Reza Aslan (professor, author, TV host and producer, NIAC board member). I feel like even though he got smoked intellectually by both of these men who are more informed on sociopolitical issues than he is, I respect his willingness to engage and to keep having long-form interviews like this. It seems like he's going to invite both Kulinski and Aslan back on, which I'm looking forward to because I enjoyed the conversations/debates he had with them.





I can relate to Bet-David on some level because I believe in discipline and hard work and delayed gratification and being entrepreneurial. However, he seems to rely on anecdotes rather than empirical data when it comes to structuring a society, which I think is stupid and counterproductive. We agree on a lot on the individual level, but I don't think you can scale these things at the societal level. There's a reason why the vast majority of economists are Keynesian and not Chicago School or Marxian.

There's a TON of data and real-world examples of Keynesian economics keeping societies intact while there are numerous examples of Marxism being attempted and massively failing. And countries like Haiti where they don't have public schools or building restrictions (rather minarchist in nature) are a lot worse off than similar countries like Jamaica where they have public schools and regulations and are more developed and better organized because of better governance. I believe government plays an important role in society along with business interests and we need to balance these things as best we can.

 

[Morning Star]

I like that he'll interview just about anyone. He does say some out there things from time to time with a little too much certainty like kind of a car salesman vibe (I'm aware he's an insurance guy). Good production values. I also like he doesn't pussyfoot around asking more pointed questions but also isn't a cunt about it

 

[panem-et-circenses]

I saw him on YT shorts and he became a skip.

 

[Morning Star]

Also I like his interviews but I haven't made up my mind about him yet. I think he's above average intelligence, not genius level or anything.

 

[AtomicPanther]

These polls need a 'Who?' option

 

[Hollywood Jack]

I like that he'll interview just about anyone. He does say some out there things from time to time with a little too much certainty like kind of a car salesman vibe (I'm aware he's an insurance guy). Good production values. I also like he doesn't pussyfoot around asking more pointed questions but also isn't a cunt about it

Good analysis. I largely agree. I get some utility out of some of his interviews. Even though our worldviews are different.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

These polls need a 'Who?' option

Good point. Just edited the poll accordingly.

 

[Fugazy]

Just saw his first interview because he had Andrew state on, which was also the first time I had ever listened to Andrew Tate.

I swear I'm not kidding when I say I had never heard of either of these guys before 2 weeks ago.

 

[HockeyBjj]

 

[Edmond_Dantes]

Like Andrew Tate, I had no idea who this guy was until recently.

worth a listen to?

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Like Andrew Tate, I had no idea who this guy was until recently.

worth a listen to?

I would say so. He’s definitely a capital L Libertarian type but he has some interesting conversations and debates.

 

[mb23100]

I know nothing about the man himself other than he does interviews with some pretty interesting people. This one is definitely worth a watch.



He asks some stupid questions and has an annoying "fake overly interested" tone about him sometimes but he does a passable job I guess. I've watched quite a few of them.

 

[BJ@LW&WW]

hes a business man and media content creator. he will say whatever he feels will help grow his influence and income with his target audience.

ive definitely heard him give great insight on some business related things, which is why i started following him. but after listening to more of what he seems to discuss regularly now, its clear hes feeding a specific audience and that he will sacrifice the quality of what he's saying to get better clickbait and feed emotion. i still follow him a bit and will listen to an audio clip that seems interesting because i feel its good to sometimes expose yourself sometimes to someone who sets off the BS meter a bit

still, sor far probably the most interesting content ive heard of him are what introduced me to him initially, which are his conversations with ray dalio. no other content has been nearly as insightful (of course in part because dalio was the real content there but dave contributed too)

 

[Super_Nintendo]

I like the guy. He's a leader and stands up to what he believes in and I tend to agree with his principles of free market and living the American dream. He presents himself as strong and never a victim, overall the kind of guy you'd want watching your back.

 

[Ruv]

I like PBD's show and the Valuetainment Money show hosted by Adam. They both ask their guests pretty good questions.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

I like the guy. He's a leader and stands up to what he believes in and I tend to agree with his principles of free market and living the American dream. He presents himself as strong and never a victim, overall the kind of guy you'd want watching your back.

I believe in the free market but I don't have a religious belief in it like Bet-David does. I also think the American dream is easier to achieve in Europe or Australia or other Western countries, and the metrics back me up on that. There is simply more upward mobility in other developed nations than in the US.

Even in countries like China, it's A LOT easier to start a business than in the US where BIG business is catered to and small business gets fucked over. And Scandinavian countries rank HIGHER in economic freedom than the US. These are simply facts. An inconvenient truth for some, but a truth nevertheless.

Sources: http://www3.weforum.org/docs/Global_Social_Mobility_Report.pdf
http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/best-countries-to-start-a-business

 

[SKYNET]

he got smoked intellectually by Kyle Kuklinski

 

[cheesus]

I don't really know anything about him but from what I've seen, just another grifter.

 

[fedoriswar37]

I like his shows. Wide variety of guests , decent interviewing skills. Good conversations. He's not a woke screeching liberal so a lot of members here will just slander him.

 

[Terry Noonan]

I believe he thinks he’s smarter than he actually is. He sells life insurance products does he not? That’s how he got rich.