What's Your Next Purchase? V5

[bushman505]

My wish list now is basically look like this:

- 28" Benelli Supernova for duck hunting
- Benelli Supernova Tactical because.. because it's Murica
- Fuck off .375 H&H Weatherby for a fun magnum rifle
- AR-10
- 6.5 Creedmoor precision bench gun


Ugh, can I win the lotto already.

You need a 375H&H for sure, you can get into them without breaking the bank, I paid less than 600 for my weatherby and that thing is a laser it shoots great with everything. I've found somenfairly cheap ammo for about 40 bucks a box, of course the real dangerous game ammo is more expensive but it's awesome.

My only regret about that weatherby is I sort of wish I'd just spent the extra ~ 400 bucks and gotten the upgraded version that comes in a bell and Carlson stock. Apparently weatherby has some of these stocks they will sell seperatly, b+c dosent make an off the shelf option for that barrel contour, also the upgraded model has a NECG rear sight rather than the Williams but the Williams are fine.

I love that rifle, it's easily my favorite vanguard, I love how well it shoots and I can really sort of abuse it, not care if it gets wet or dinged up because it didn't cost 1800 dollars like my other 375hh did.

 

[Gregolian]

You need a 375H&H for sure, you can get into them without breaking the bank, I paid less than 600 for my weatherby and that thing is a laser it shoots great with everything. I've found somenfairly cheap ammo for about 40 bucks a box, of course the real dangerous game ammo is more expensive but it's awesome.

My only regret about that weatherby is I sort of wish I'd just spent the extra ~ 400 bucks and gotten the upgraded version that comes in a bell and Carlson stock. Apparently weatherby has some of these stocks they will sell seperatly, b+c dosent make an off the shelf option for that barrel contour, also the upgraded model has a NECG rear sight rather than the Williams but the Williams are fine.

I love that rifle, it's easily my favorite vanguard, I love how well it shoots and I can really sort of abuse it, not care if it gets wet or dinged up because it didn't cost 1800 dollars like my other 375hh did.

I'll probably grab that but for an RPR or a .375 I want a premium scope on it. I have a nice Vortex Viper but it's the baseline non FFP model that has mildot but MOA adjustments... so basically I have to zero it and hope I never need to adjust it again because my brain can't handle maths.

Ideally, if I got an RPR or 375 I'd want this on both of them:
http://vortexoptics.com/product/vor...fp-riflescope-with-ebr-2c-moa-reticle/reticle

 

[bushman505]

I'll probably grab that but for an RPR or a .375 I want a premium scope on it. I have a nice Vortex Viper but it's the baseline non FFP model that has mildot but MOA adjustments... so basically I have to zero it and hope I never need to adjust it again because my brain can't handle maths.

Ideally, if I got an RPR or 375 I'd want this on both of them:
http://vortexoptics.com/product/vor...fp-riflescope-with-ebr-2c-moa-reticle/reticle

I just use a leupold vx3 on my 375, it's fairly low powered but I can't really see shooting that particular gun past 200 yards. I actually prefer fairly simple scopes for most types of hunting.

The ideal use for the 375 would be for moose hunting in bear country so I want to keep the magnification fairly low so I could get on target quickly if I need to.

Normally in those situations you have a friend with you who is carrying a shotgun but I find myself hunting in more and more remote areas by myself so I can't carry a shotgun and a rifle.

Next year I'm hunting in the brooks range alone and that's the rifle that's going with me.

I hunted an unlimited sheep area in montana 2 years ago and there were grizzlys everywhere....big ones other than my 270, I carried a 44mag but the 44mag dosent seem so great when you get close to a massive bear, I'd much rather have a 375hh but that's not a very good choice for sheep hunting and the gun is far too heavy for mountain hunting.

 

[jlagman]

My experiences with Savage, I feel like they're all about cold bore accuracy and everything else comes a distant second. I'll probably take a lot of heat for this, but I think if I were in the market, I'd pick a Savage Model 10/110/11/110/16/116 over a Remington 700 any day of the week.

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[bushman505]

My experiences with Savage, I feel like they're all about cold bore accuracy and everything else comes a distant second. I'll probably take a lot of heat for this, but I think if I were in the market, I'd pick a Savage Model 10/110/11/110/16/116 over a Remington 700 any day of the week.

[/Hides behind sofa]

It would really depend on which model of Remington 700 for me. The mountain rifle and the awr are cool guns, I had a 700 bdl that didn't impress me last time I went to the woods.

I have a 700 in 270, actually my first hunting rifle and it was made in 1997 or so, it's been an awesome gun with no issues and it's been ridden hard.

Right now, I wouldn't consider a Remington if I was making a rifle purchase, the 700 wouldn't even really ding the radar except for the mountain rifle.

I'd look at weatherby, Winchester, kimber, montana rifle co all before looking into a Remington.

That being said though a 700 mountain rifle in 270 or 30-06 could make a solid gun if you got a good one.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

My wish list now is basically look like this:

- 28" Benelli Supernova for duck hunting
- Benelli Supernova Tactical because.. because it's Murica
- Fuck off .375 H&H Weatherby for a fun magnum rifle
- AR-10
- 6.5 Creedmoor precision bench gun

Outside of a 9mm pistol I am pretty well set and I am thinking about getting a G19 for that.

Ugh, can I win the lotto already.

Make the AR10 your precision 6.5 Creedmoor. Build a .308 upper and 20"+ Creedmoor.

 

[bushman505]

Make the AR10 your precision 6.5 Creedmoor. Build a .308 upper and 20"+ Creedmoor.

For real, you can do this with one lower right? And just switch the uppers around, build a second lower later.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

For real, you can do this with one lower right? And just switch the uppers around, build a second lower later.

Yeah.

6.5 Creedmoor in an AR10 only needs a barrel change.

Go with a new Proof research CamGas stainless or carbon barrel in 20, 22 or 24".

Honestly if you are just target shooting 6.5 is so superior to .308 it's not even close.

A 16" 6.5 Creedmoor with 120gr amax will have less drift and drop than a 22" .308 175gr smk from 0-1000 yards.

 

[bushman505]

Yeah.

6.5 Creedmoor in an AR10 only needs a barrel change.

Go with a new Proof research CamGas stainless or carbon barrel in 20, 22 or 24".

Honestly if you are just target shooting 6.5 is so superior to .308 it's not even close.

A 16" 6.5 Creedmoor with 120gr amax will have less drift and drop than a 22" .308 175gr smk from 0-1000 yards.

What's the real power of the 6.5s though? Talk to me like I know nothing, I've never used 6.5 stuff, I'd feel comfortable taking large ungulates with 308, this 6.5 stuff is so new to me.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

What's the real power of the 6.5s though? Talk to me like I know nothing, I've never used 6.5 stuff, I'd feel comfortable taking large ungulates with 308, this 6.5 stuff is so new to me.

I've heard multiple reports of taking Elk out to 400's without issue. There are examples of 5-600 yard kills.

603 yard example



Velocity from 27"-16" and drift and drop out to 1k.

http://rifleshooter.com/2016/02/6-5...el-length-on-velocity-cutting-up-a-creedmoor/

Round info from Hornady
http://m.hornady.com/store/6.5-Creedmoor-143-gr-ELD-X-Precision-Hunter/

http://m.hornady.com/store/6.5-Creedmoor-120-gr-GMX-superformance/

http://m.hornady.com/store/6.5-Creedmoor-147-gr-ELD-Match/

On the 147 the ballistic coefficient(G1) is .697

6.5 Creedmoor uses the same bolt and action as .308, just different chamber/barrel(obviously)

 

[bushman505]

I've heard multiple reports of taking Elk out to 400's without issue. There are examples of 5-600 yard kills.

603 yard example



Velocity from 27"-16" and drift and drop out to 1k.

http://rifleshooter.com/2016/02/6-5...el-length-on-velocity-cutting-up-a-creedmoor/

Round info from Hornady
http://m.hornady.com/store/6.5-Creedmoor-143-gr-ELD-X-Precision-Hunter/

http://m.hornady.com/store/6.5-Creedmoor-120-gr-GMX-superformance/

http://m.hornady.com/store/6.5-Creedmoor-147-gr-ELD-Match/

On the 147 the ballistic coefficient(G1) is .697

6.5 Creedmoor uses the same bolt and action as .308, just different chamber.

The thing keeping me away is still off th shelf ammo availability. There's not always a cabelas or sportsmans warehouse around.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

The thing keeping me away is still off th shelf ammo availability. There's not always a cabelas or sportsmans warehouse around.

Sure. But it is probably one of if not the fastest growing caliber atm.

Online availability is good and in store availability will only grow. Pretty good bullet selection already for reloading, Barnes (t)tsx, berger, Nosler partition, Hornady sst, eld x, interbond, gmx, swift scirocco II, swift A-frame, etc.

 

[bushman505]

Sure. But it is probably one of if not the fastest growing caliber atm.

Online availability is good and in store availability will only grow. Pretty good bullet selection already, Barnes (t)tsx, berger, Nosler partition, Hornady sst, eld x, interbond, gmx, swift scirocco II, swift A-frame, etc.

I may have to get one, would probably make an excellent antelope/deer/possibly caribou cartridge.

Have you seen any of these 26 and 30 nosler rounds? I met a guy the other day who had a ridgline in 30 nosler, he seemed pretty impressed with it.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

I may have to get one, would probably make an excellent antelope/deer/possibly caribou cartridge.

Have you seen any of these 26 and 30 nosler rounds? I met a guy the other day who had a ridgline in 30 nosler, he seemed pretty impressed with it.

143 eld x at 400 on some antelope



Nope, I've only read about the 26, 28 and 30 nosler. Pretty beast rounds. Expensive and will likely never be readily available. That 210gr 30 nosler is almost 2000 fpe at 800 yards. 26 is crazy flat.

 

[Gregolian]

Everything I have read about the 6.5 Creedmoor is that at extended distances it holds more energy than .300 WinMag due to not needing to push as much air out of the way.

 

[bushman505]

I was trying to sell a feeble rifles locally and I got a guy who offered to trade me an unfired gen4 glock 20 with a barsto barrel and trijicon sights so I took the deal.

I already had a glock 20 but I'm looking to transition away from revolvers to the glock 20 for woods use.

I ordered 500 round of double tap 230 hardcast and 500 similar rounds from underwood.

Also ordered 500 rounds of blazer aluminum to break in the barsto barrel, basically you need to shoot a lot of rounds through a new barsto barrel so it wears itself in for your particular gun.

One nice thing about using glocks in the woods is that if you drop them, soak them, ding them etc, it's no big deal, it's not like your 800 dollar limited edition ruger that would be fairly hard to replace.

Anyways now I have a gen 4 glock 20 and a buttload of hot ass ammo for it. My other was a gen 3 with a storm lake barrel.

 

[DevilsLettuce]

Anyone have a recommendation for an OWB CC holster that carries real high comfortably and does a good job of concealment?

 

[My Spot]

FNH now sells a civilian version of the SAW. Anyone got $8k to waste?

http://www.fnamerica.com/products/collector-series/m249s/

 

[Gregolian]

FNH now sells a civilian version of the SAW. Anyone got $8k to waste?

http://www.fnamerica.com/products/collector-series/m249s/

I wish.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

Anyone have a recommendation for an OWB CC holster that carries real high comfortably and does a good job of concealment?

Don't have a recommendation but here are some to look into

FIST

High slide

Tucker and byrd

Rusty Sherrick

Mitch Rosen upper limit

Side guard