Whats up with dudes pulling out of fights with islam bro?

[that Indian]

I'm starting to think that alot of these injuries come down to weight management. These guys look like they're dying on the scales. I haven't really seen anything like this in boxing (outside of some exceptions).

Let's be honest, part of the Dagestani dominance is also due to their ability to cut weight.

 

[richardjohnson]

it was a fake fight it was never going to happen. All theater to sell tickets. They need that LW title defense broken they made sure from the start he had the easiest path possible.

What a wild theory. I guess anything to discredit Islam, right?

 

[RockyLockridge]

What a wild theory. I guess anything to discredit Islam, right?

It's not islam it's ali and the UFC much like the whole alex and magomed thing is, the same thing. The same damn thing, but with islam it seems to go unnoticed. Why book Armen vs Charles 2 months before Islam vs dustin for absolutely no reason? It's all a giant mountain of nonsense, Followed by me sitting around a telling everyone they did that for a reason. They like Having Islam as champion. They like having Alex as champion, and that's why what's happening is happening this fight should have happened long ago to begin with im frusttrated that it's not happening.

 

[HHJ]

I just cant believe it bro. He looked fine yesterday WTF.

 

[VinceArch]

I said this before the fight was signed and I'm sticking too it and I said it wasn't happening when they said it was on the same card as Umar I never believed they'd make this match up.

I'm actually feeling completely vindicated. I said Islam's next defense would not be Armen and I was right

Which is fine but don't use it as a reason to rip into Islam in the future, not like he's got a handful of voodoo dolls and is making it happen.

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

The issue is that Islam fights only 2 times a year and has specific dates he picks. He had an issue pulling out earlier in his career also, but now that he is picking the date, he makes it more often after running super long camps.

Sucks that Armen got injured on such short notice. It's annoying because both he and Islam probably won't fight until after July again, which means LW will stagnate again for a year.

I don't think Moicano is the guy to pull off a win. Hopefully we atleast get a good fight like the DP one.

Jan, June, october, that is not stagnant

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Maybe the fighters are conspiring to fill Islam's resume with replacements because that will... something something.

 

[richardjohnson]

It's not islam it's ali and the UFC much like the whole alex and magomed thing is, the same thing. The same damn thing, but with islam it seems to go unnoticed. Why book Armen vs Charles 2 months before Islam vs dustin for absolutely no reason? It's all a giant mountain of nonsense, Followed by me sitting around a telling everyone they did that for a reason. They like Having Islam as champion. They like having Alex as champion, and that's why what's happening is happening this fight should have happened long ago to begin with im frusttrated that it's not happening.

So they spent all that time, money and effort promoting what is one of the most anticipated fights they can make with no intention of having them actually fight? Sorry I have a VERY hard time believing that they got Arman to agree to that.

 

[RockyLockridge]

So they spent all that time, money and effort promoting what is one of the most anticipated fights they can make with no intention of having them actually fight? Sorry I have a VERY hard time believing that they got Arman to agree to that.

you know what bothers me? I was so stanch in the idea that they would not make that armen match when it came to the point it was happening and it was a month away, I really started to feel like "damn, I guess i have to eat crow" I always said he wouldn't fight a HARD matchup like this until AFTER he broke the LW record. And it still didn't happen. It's just the most crazy happenstance and it's over and over revolving around Islam Every fight after the volk fight is incredibly fishy in how it just gets put together based on lack of options. People talk about poatan not fight with Magomed that is just ONE match up this is 3 times in a row of the LW title not being defended against a Top 3 LW

 

[mangokush]

Islam was the most ducked fighter in MMA history before he became champ and he still is the most ducked fighter as a champion

Most of the time his opponents are pulling out of fights against him a a few days before the fight as they know they will lose and just decide to pull out under the guise of a Injury

LW is a mess

 

[IsNormal]

Islam was the most ducked fighter in MMA history before he became champ and he still is the most ducked fighter as a champion

Most of the time his opponents are pulling out of fights against him a a few days before the fight as they know they will lose and just decide to pull out under the guise of a Injury

That's a crazy theory.

Losing a title fight isn't even that bad for a fighter's reputation.

What would be their end game?
They would plan all along to accept the title fight, pull out last minute, and then what?
How are they planning to get the belt?
Hope Islam retires? (Which may take years)
Hope a minute replacement takes the belt. (I doubt it..if they believe Islam is so great there's no use fighting him, I doubt they think he'd lose to a last minute replacement)

Also - if Arman planned this stunt all along it's so poorly planned that he couldn't even convince average sherdoggers.
Why wouldn't he plan it a bit better (Like plant some fake rumors about an injury. Or walk around with a fake limp) instead of acting healthy before the weigh ins and then mentioning back pain out of the blue.

 

[maximus__]

Jan, June, october, that is not stagnant

He has only done something like that a single time in his career and that was in 2021, when he finally got ranked.
He fought March, July and October that year with Hooker on short notice.
He only fought once last year with that being in June. If Islam fights 3x this year I will be pleasantly surprised, it happened once and I don't see him ever doing it now that he is the champ.

 

[MMAJunkie]

Fighting compromised and losing puts you further away from the belt than pulling out and waiting until healthy.

Biggest fight of their career on the line, but some Sherdogger who will never amount to anything like that is telling them, "I'd show up and get my ass kicked, why can't they?"

Imagine being dumber AND more desperate than someone who gets punched for a living. Y'all shit's fuckin tired

Agreed!
These fake fans kill me. A keyboard warrior telling a fighter to tuff out a injury so they can be entertained while they illegally stream the event.

 

[smalliebiggs]

it was a fake fight it was never going to happen. All theater to sell tickets. They need that LW title defense broken they made sure from the start he had the easiest path possible.

fuck you're retarded. cheers for the laughs

 

[lerobshow]

what the fuck type lame shit is this?
do bronx, arman.
These dudes so scared they willing to piss away championship opportunities?
Give a sherdogger a 5 week camp and 12 12 I promise they will show up but active mma athletes can't??
MMA post 2020 has been such a joke.

Hate to be anti fighter but god dammit.

Congratulations, my friend! You’ve officially delivered the dumbest casual couch expert take I’ve seen in a long while. Truly, a masterpiece of ignorance. Let’s break this down for you so you can grasp how ridiculous it is to bash professional MMA fighters for injuries.

First, injuries are a very real and often unavoidable part of combat sports ESPECIALLY when you are cutting weight. Fighters push their bodies to the limit daily. When someone pulls out of a fight due to injury, it’s not because they’re "scared", it’s because they’re injured. Plain and simple.

Second, your "give a Sherdogger a 5-week camp" comment? Hilarious. Someone with zero pro experience stepping into a fight would be lucky to last 30 seconds, let alone compete at a championship level. Comparing your fantasy land scenarios to actual fighters who dedicate their lives to this sport? Not even close.

Lastly, dismissing MMA post-2020 as a "joke" because fighters won’t fight injured is peak entitlement. These athletes risk their health and future in every bout, and yet you think they owe you some reckless "warrior spirit" nonsense for your entertainment? Nah.

You should come here to Thailand and watch some of these fighters train and compete. Follow them, see their sacrifices, and maybe, just maybe, you’d gain a whole new perspective. But yeah, I get it, it’s easy to run your mouth from the comfort of your own home.

 

[McSpikes]

Werent we just reading reports of Islam having a broken arm? Seeks like the time to take Islam out not run away due to aches and pains

 

[big franklin]

TS makes some good points.

Personally, I think Arman should be cut.

 

[volcom5]

The issue is that Islam fights only 2 times a year and has specific dates he picks. He had an issue pulling out earlier in his career also, but now that he is picking the date, he makes it more often after running super long camps.

Sucks that Armen got injured on such short notice. It's annoying because both he and Islam probably won't fight until after July again, which means LW will stagnate again for a year.

I don't think Moicano is the guy to pull off a win. Hopefully we atleast get a good fight like the DP one.

Short notice? Bro… Islam and Armand had the similar amount of time to prepare for this bout, in fact Armand had a few more months more than Makhachev.

 

[bjjwar]

The amount of last minute pull outs is definitely way higher than it used to be

Fighters pay is too high. Imagine even a bum like Amanda Ribas saying she just wanted to take 1 year off to chill down lol. To have that kind of luxury while being a fighter for 10min a year is sth else...

 

[maximus__]

Short notice? Bro… Islam and Armand had the similar amount of time to prepare for this bout, in fact Armand had a few more months more than Makhachev.

As in within a day of the fight he got injured.

No time to remake the fight without killing the card due to the short notice for the UFC.