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What would be a good training routine for kickboxing, with the possiblity of some day getting back into the grappling too. Basically S&C for fighting.
Since everyone tells me to follow a program. So what is your specific suggestion ?
 
What would be a good training routine for kickboxing, with the possiblity of some day getting back into the grappling too. Basically S&C for fighting.
Since everyone tells me to follow a program. So what is your specific suggestion ?
Juggernaut bjj app is good for mma or they have a bunch on train heroic
 
A programme is always good. The specific programme will depend upon what your current strengths, weaknesses, and experience.

How long have you been training? What are your current lifts like? How is your cardio? Height, weight, age?
 
If i remember correctly you are near 40 and havent competed but want to?

Forget S&C and put all in skill training since your technical level is likely low.
 
If i remember correctly you are near 40 and havent competed but want to?

Forget S&C and put all in skill training since your technical level is likely low.
you misspeled apsolute excelent :). I´m definitely rusty and need to get back to actual sparring and man on man fighting. It´s totally different doing it than doing stuff around it or thinking bout doing it. 2 worlds. I was decent at it but quiet long ago. The sharpness and eye for it, might come back. Plus the brutality is always questionable if I wanna indulge in it. Once it hurts, especially to the head, it´s easy to be like ah I don´t even need this.

But I agree with just doing actual kickboxing training mostly and maybe 2x a week lift weights
 
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A programme is always good. The specific programme will depend upon what your current strengths, weaknesses, and experience.

How long have you been training?

on and off more than half my life, no telling how much that is

What are your current lifts like? How is your cardio? Height, weight, age?

My lifts are ok. But considering my weight they are not amazing, basically lose body fat not try to be legit at 253 pounds.
Lift in kilos
Bench Press - 1x max probably 125 kg. I did post 120 kg 3 months ago.
Deadlift - very hard to gauge, I did post 150 kg, I am certain I can do 180 kg. Might try that soon.
Squat - weak lift, I can do a lot of bodyweight squats, weighed I only do 8 x 80 kg if I even do them.
OHP - doings reps with 50 kg is not hard. I didn´t try my max but gotta be at the very least 70 kg.
Cardio - always poor runners but good with kickboxing / boxing training. Basically high effort + rests good cardio, no rest continous effort - poor cardio. I can not explain my cardio. Running cardio is bad.
Height 182 cm
Weight 115 kg, 29.5% body fat
Age almost 38
 
If i remember correctly you are near 40 and havent competed but want to?

Forget S&C and put all in skill training since your technical level is likely low.
I gotta say you are right, just kickboxing casses and say 2 x a week S&C.

What would your suggestion be here. The classes are 1 hour 15 minutes. Gym is open for extra work. What should I do. How much.

I can´t predict the recovery needs, so how do I "program" this. Like 5 x kickboxing and 2x lifting and 2x cardio mobility.

I guess it doesn´t matters I should just go for it. Focus on skill training. Get sharp. Go to sleep early, eat healthy, lose fat. And train as much as I can. perhaps that´s it.
 
If i remember correctly you are near 40 and havent competed but want to?

Forget S&C and put all in skill training since your technical level is likely low.
my sparring is rusty but I have good technical level since I was 18. But sparring is it´s own world and needs to be forced. Every week sparring day 10 rounds is neccessary. I likely did close to 1000 sparring rounds in my life. Maybe it´s a high estimate but it´s gotta be 700 or more. Definitely way above 500. I´d gauge it between 700-1000.

I need to do much less at the fitness gym, I still feel run over today. Well tomorrow I agreed to train with a friend at his fitness gym he is at, pads and whatever kickbox stuff he wanted to do, that Sunday definitely going out to kickboxing but Easter so it will be a freestyle workout, I´ll do bags and shadow box mostly. Than I need to just catch kickboxing classes. In theory I could do both each day, 1:15 hour 2x a day is doable I think. Around noon and evening. First of all I need to take my ass to bed early. Like before midnight, that is the basic before anything fancy.

I noticed the mistake the last 6 week since I got serious about training, well almost serious but I tried as much as I could, the mistake is to blast training on good days and than need recovery days. If I feel good I just don´t wanna stop training till I squeezed out too much energy out myself. It feels like there is always something to do. I mean the body needs years to adapt to volume. I can´t just freaking expect to get in great shape in 6 weeks. Others build their training tolerance for 6 years.

That being said I noticed sherdog isn´t encouraging, people like Max ect don´t want you to be more athletic than them. They´ll just verbaly drag you down. They won´t try to inspire you and tell you anything is possible if you go beyond and above. They are scared you´ll be stronger than them. Hence I don´t talk much about what I believe I can do or actually want to do. Peple like to see you do good, but not better than them.
 
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I see rocknroller Eric is reading, see they do it to you non stop, if you state you did something extraordinary well, you will get 5 pages of explaining why you aren´t really good. They will just claim you never done what you said, and aren´t specialy good.

I´m not claiming to be great right now, actually I should, cause it all starts with words, wanna be great, tell yourself you are great. Fighting is a confidence sport.
 
I apologize. In the end I'm a hobbist or recreational athlete, with no pro or amateur experience. I do have 1 boxing match with amateur rules and no decisions proclimation, so no winners. And sparring training exprience with amateurs and pros. So I am not aiming to make the internet believe I am a pro when I'm not even an amateur. Amateurs get the respect for competing. I am not a competitor. However I still like some encouragement, regardless if I'm over the hill or not as athletic as competitors. People online tend to sometimes over gauge themselves me included. Factually I am not an amateur fighter, never claimed to be. Doesn't mean I shouldn't train as if I was, training doesn't hurt, it's beneficial and fun.
My close friend placed 3rd in amateur boxing in Bosnia but I think 17-19 age limit. I know for a fact I can beat him up any day. He just won 1 fight, got 1 free pass for no show and lost than placed 3rd lol. I also landed a guilotine on a friend who was a pro and purple level at that time, it's not like I suck, I mean he did sub me every 2 minutes when we rolled and a total of at least 500 times, I got him twice though. In any case I got no wins recorded am officially am not a competitor these guys deserve the respect for fighting. I am simply a recreational practicioner. It takes a lot of courage to do 20 amy boxing fights like the other guys. I am not that guy.
 
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I mean to me it comes off what should I do program wise and posters chime in with you suck lol. Well it's the internet noone cares. If you're good you gotta have a recod to present. Perhaps I'll just train and not ask question cause my inflated ego got me talking stuff where I look foolish. It's easy to talk and I been doing a lot of talking. Perhaps I'll just google my own info and not ask for advice. Training stories online are not competitions we all can point out how well we ran or did whatever. It's a mute discussion. Unless someone trained with me they can for themslves decided if I'm good and than it's still training, going out to fight is the pinacle I mean it's so much harder than sparring or training, fight nerves kill you and it isn't friendly like sparring. Competitions are way different and the only thing that actually counts.
 
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Ok after making another trash monologue thread you deserve something nice

 
If i remember correctly you are near 40 and havent competed but want to?

Forget S&C and put all in skill training since your technical level is likely low.
This is absolutely not true. Your outputs are far more important than skill in fighting.
 
This is absolutely not true. Your outputs are far more important than skill in fighting.
Skill and technique beats muscles always.

You can't tell cause you have athletic strength but don't have skills
 
You're a french snail eater I am about to hit you with warm soapy water I know your people are alergic to smelling good
 
Eric go into your room, we are not done yet, no dessert for you. Du hast jetzt Hausarrest junger man. Nemoj da budeš šiban momčino.17450180680035223733385012902479.jpg
 
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I'm gonna fist you with my lunchbox hands Mr Eric if you misbehave again
 
@Trabaho Start with 2-3 days of kickboxing first(in an actual gym class). Once you can hit 3x a week consistently for 1 month, add a strength day for 4 total.
Do that again for 2-4 weeks and then add a second strength day.

IF you feel you need more work on top of that add something long steady state based 1x a week like a ride, run, or swim. You could do something like this to alleviate the boredom of the long session if you want to stay gym based:

10 mins Ride
10 mins Rowing
10 mins Running
x1-2 rounds
30-60 mins total

You always go super hard, burn out and never stay consistent from your posts.
Take 2-4 months to work up to regular consistent training.

This will get you 3 KB skill sessions, 2 strength sessions and 1 optional conditioning sessions each week for 6 total sessions.
6 sessions a week consistently adds up to 24 sessions each 4 week period. 24x12 is 288 sessions a year. That's how you build good levels of strength and fitness without burning out.

Do that for 12 months and then you can adjust that schedule for different goals. e.g if you want to get super strong, drop a Kickboxing session for a strength session and change the focus for a few months.
 
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