Regimen What would be a routine for Kickboxing / MMA ?

[Trabaho]

@Trabaho Start with 2-3 days of kickboxing first(in an actual gym class). Once you can hit 3x a week consistently for 1 month, add a strength day for 4 total.
Do that again for 2-4 weeks and then add a second strength day.

IF you feel you need more work on top of that add something long steady state based 1x a week like a ride, run, or swim. You could do something like this to alleviate the boredom of the long session if you want to stay gym based:

10 mins Ride
10 mins Rowing
10 mins Running
x1-2 rounds
30-60 mins total

You always go super hard, burn out and never stay consistent from your posts.
Take 2-4 months to work up to regular consistent training.

This will get you 3 KB skill sessions, 2 strength sessions and 1 optional conditioning sessions each week for 6 total sessions.
6 sessions a week consistently adds up to 24 sessions each 4 week period. 24x12 is 288 sessions a year. That's how you build good levels of strength and fitness without burning out.

Do that for 12 months and then you can adjust that schedule for different goals. e.g if you want to get super strong, drop a Kickboxing session for a strength session and change the focus for a few months.

You could train 3 hours every day if you didn't have your job and family take away your sleep. Maybe even 4. People do it every day in Thailand. It's the standard. White people are workers and so under recovered that they aim to do 4 workouts of 1 hour. Sleeping 5 hours, doing work all night, stress, financial obligations. Guess what I got no kids and am currently not working, next up is school and than manipulate the system if possible to have another 1 month off. I actually wanna do 1 month in Thailand. Than work 160 hours only day shifts.

Days of 12 hours shifts and my hair falling off for capitalists are over. Inshallah though. God willing.

Humans can do a lot. A lot. You are the same species as Usain Bolt and Kenian marathon runners. You are amazing and the strongest species out of milions of species on planet earth. God has chosen you.

 

[Trabaho]

I am removing self limiting beliefs. I enjoy the online company but I am just gonna be honest and say what I think.

 

[Trabaho]

I need to push it to the most extreme humanly levels possible. I got nothing better to do right now. No kids. I don't need to help my parents. I don't owe money. Push it to the limit. Untill you quit. Unless you don't quit. See what happens.

 

[ROcknrollracing]

you realize most of those Thai fighters are done by basically the age of 20 and are broken right? the majority of fighters don't train all day.

 

[Trabaho]

you realize most of those Thai fighters are done by basically the age of 20 and are broken right? the majority of fighters don't train all day.

Watch some youtube, westerners of all levels just go for a month to Thailand and train 2x a day. How do pro fighters train. 2x a day. From America to Europe to Australia. We are underrecovered. Money got us working, waking up at 5:30 on 4 hours of sleep. I needed a hair job how much sleep I missed. My hair just died. I was tired every day. Chronic sleep deprivation. Than ask yourself why can I only recover from 4 hours of training. 4 hours of excercise in a whole week. And 50 hours of working your job. Find the mistake.

 

[Trabaho]

I like you Eric you're being a good sport about my jokes . Max would now write an essay why I excercise wrong as revenge for brash jokes and taunts. Max is a good person too. I understand him, he speaks from his perspective, I know what it feels like to work a lot and do shift work. My record was 5 days off in 7 months. One month of 372 hours night shifts. Night shifts cause depression. Than we wonder how does someone work out for 4 hours 5x a week. Cause they are pro athletes and focused / shifted their lives towards maximum recovery. Just good food, sleep fully each day and train to the max. It's impressive I never died from sleep deprivation.

 

[Trabaho]

you realize most of those Thai fighters are done by basically the age of 20 and are broken right? the majority of fighters don't train all day.

Mmmm Buakaw is 41, Senchai is like 43. Most people quit and get real jobs. Thai fighters are fighting for 15$ to buy food, 3 x a month. And they likely quit from 100 fight damage more so than training too much. Thai sparring is traditionaly light and playfull. Cause they gotta fight next week to make 50$ and pay rent.

To not create misunderstanding I am a big fan of Thais and their country. It's gonna be my first travel outside of Europe. America would be my second choice. I hope I don't make empty words and go to Thailand. I got the spare change for it it's just a mental thing to go. Didn't wanna solo travel also, 1 "friend" is interested too. Well he is a pro fighter. So let's see if I can make it happen. If I don't go this year perhaps I will never go. That's the mentality. I gotta use my aprox 30 vacation days from work to go home see my old parents usually. Well where there is a will there is a way. Don't be a slave for rich people. Remember Nike - just do it.

 

[ROcknrollracing]

Mmmm Buakaw is 41, Senchai is like 43. Most people quit and get real jobs. Thai fighters are fighting for 15$ to buy food, 3 x a month. And they likely quit from 100 fight damage more so than training too much. Thai sparring is traditionaly light and playfull. Cause they gotta fight next week to make 50$ and pay rent.

To not create misunderstanding I am a big fan of Thais and their country. It's gonna be my first travel outside of Europe. America would be my second choice. I hope I don't make empty words and go to Thailand. I got the spare change for it it's just a mental thing to go. Didn't wanna solo travel also but 1 "friend" is interested too. Well he is a pro fighter. So let's see if I can make it happen. If I don't go this year perhaps I will never go. That's the mentality.

The actual best fighters are likely names you have never even heard of. The fighters that we label the best are in reality the best salesmen.

 

[Trabaho]

The actual best fighters are likely names you have never even heard of. The fighters that we label the best are in reality the best salesmen.

Strong disagree. Buakaw is legit. I am a K1 and MMA head. I don't know the names in the Thai scene. I couldn't tell you 10 Thais fighters by name. I am sure the one fc guys now are legit and top 10 in Thailand. One fc is doing events in Thailand. Superlelek ? What is the guy who kicked petros head off (I loved it for beating Andy 2x) Tiachawan something no Superbon. Than hmm Nog-o ? And they got the farang boys basically John Haggetry is elite. Now I saw Nabil is crazy, insane actually, 6'4 and like 135 pounds lol, crazy mash of african algeria genes with thai genes, totally supreme fighter.

Of course we farangs don't know Thai fighter history unless you are a muay thai head and followed it.

Check Buakaws and Senchais and Yods records, click on the names on wikipedia you think blow them out the water. Buakaw got like a 85 % win rate in Thailand and the west. In the west or better said Japan + Eu his win rate in his prime was like +95%.

Yeah there are 100 comperably good thais in the long history of the sport we never heard of. I'm not a muay thai head. I know kickboximg and mma. A bit of boxing too.

I am a kickbox head and Buakaw is the 2 time K1 Max champ, I didn't watch his Muay Thai stuff. Muay Thai fights before One FC always had shitty shitty recording, noone cared to watch it. No english commentary. No promotion. I do like the music, sounds like snake dance music. Massive clinching for 5 rounds possible. 5 rounds. West and Japan do 3 quick ones used to be limited clinch than banned it. Some say cause of Buakaw. Buakaw whooped Masato so bad that they took his clinch game from him. To this day I throw front kicks every time I practice on the bag cause 20 years ago I watched Buakaw front Kick Masato 100x to win the K1 Max WGP.

 

[ROcknrollracing]

Strong disagree. Buakaw is legit. I am a K1 and MMA head. I don't know the names in the Thai scene. I couldn't tell you 10 Thais fighters by name. I am sure the one fc guys now are legit and top 10 in Thailand. One fc is doing events in Thailand. Superlelek ? What is the guy whi kicked petros head off (I loved it for beating Andy 2x) Tiachawan something no Superbon. Than hmm Nogo ? And they got the farang boys basically John Haggetry is elite. Now I saw Nabil is crazy, insane actually, 6'4 and like 135 pounds lol, crazy mash of african algeria genes with thai genes, totally supreme fighter.

Of course we farangs don't know thai fighter history u less you are a muay thai head and followed it.

Check Buakaws and Senchais and Yods records, click on the names in wikipedia you think blow them out the water. Buakaw got like a 85 % win rate in thailand and the west. In the west or better said japan + eu his win rate in his prime was like +95%.

Yeah there are 100 compareably good thais in the long history of the sport we never heard of. I'm not a muay thai head. I know kickboximg and mma. A bit of boxing too.

I am a kickbox head and Buakaw is the 2 time K1 Max champ, I didn't watch his Muay Thai stuff

I didnt say they weren't great as you see my avatar is of him! the fact is we just dont know who the best is it is mere speculation and there is really know way of knowing except by word of mouth and what we have seen.

Conor mcregor is often lauded as the the best fighter of his generation but in reality he wasn't but he was the most definitely the greatest salesman. Look at somebody like Dan Henderson who whines to this day about how underpaid he was. The fact is he was an amazing fighter but didnt understand how to sell himself enough at the time. Fair or not it is true.

 

[Trabaho]

I didnt say they weren't great as you see my avatar is of him! the fact is we just dont know who the best is it is mere speculation and there is really know way of knowing except by word of mouth and what we have seen.

Conor mcregor is often lauded as the the best fighter of his generation but in reality he wasn't but he was the most definitely the greatest salesman. Look at somebody like Dan Henderson who whines to this day about how underpaid he was. The fact is he was an amazing fighter but didnt understand how to sell himself enough at the time. Fair or not it is true.

Mmm you sound like a half assed mma kickbox fan. Which you are. Your striking technique is horrible. You are very good at baskteball and baseball. You are strong in runing and lifting. Bro you are not a hardcore mma head or fight head. You probably don't even know all the basic moves. Noone ever called Conor the greatest fighter. He is just the most famous one. But respect don't get me wrong. I'm just saying. You are not hardcore nerdocore follower of this sport. In the end aren't you a basketball and baseball player by trade ?
And I said your striking technique is wrong, I know you can fight, so that wasn't a disrespect.

 

[Trabaho]

Joe Rogan is a employee of the UFC. Remember every champion that is about to fight is one of the if not the best ever. Cause they are about to sell tickets and ppvs and make the UFC profit. Joe is a legend and extremely knowledgable. But whoever is the money right now will get grossly overhyped by him. Cause that's part of his job. Conor McGregor was never ever the best. They cut promos.

 

[Trabaho]

In HW kickboxing the K1 champs were factually the best HW kickboxers globaly. I don't know much about Muay Thai fighters. I clearly understand the sport but don't know the fighters. It's kickboxing with +2 rounds clinch and elbows. Thai scoring rewards kicks more and rewards blocked kicks. The rules are brutal compared to kickboxing as you are allowed to kick and knee opponents that are falling to the ground. They literaly don't prohibit ball shots, they just don't go for them as gentleman. Elbows will kill the shit out of you. Rip your lips open, shatter your orbital. If you are unlucky.

Who the best MMA and Kickboxing fighters are is easy to check. However it's not undisputed as talent in MMA is a bit spread out but UFC got 60% of it.

In kickboxing it's just glory and One fc. Especially Glory. For low weights I don't even know I don't watch it. Japan got some skinny guys going on again.

You simply can spend some hours checking out everyones record on wikipedia and fight finder. Make your conclusion. Or google rankings.

And HW Muay Thai is the biggest joke ever. The most empty division in all of combat sports. Barely exists globaly. The #1 ranked HW Muay Thai fighter got brushed of like a amateur by Roman. Dude is 5'11 and has a 10-6 record and was the #1 ranked guy. I'm certain he is good, but it's the most empty weight class in fighting.

 

[ROcknrollracing]

Mmm you sound like a half assed mma kickbox fan. Which you are. Your striking technique is horrible. You are very good at baskteball and baseball. You are strong in runing and lifting. Bro you are not a hardcore mma head or fight head. You probably don't even know all the basic moves. Noone ever called Conor the greatest fighter. He is just the most famous one. But respect don't get me wrong. I'm just saying. You are not hardcore nerdocore follower of this sport. In the end aren't you a basketball and baseball player by trade ?
And I said your striking technique is wrong, I know you can fight, so that wasn't a disrespect.

I fall off the wagon trying to follow too many sports at a time but I have forgotten more about sports especially fighting than most people will ever learn. My families history has a history of fighting and violence under no choice of my own. I have been on again and off again watching all types of fights from family hosted underground chicken fights to choking out my own cousin before even knowing what BJJ was in the 80s. I have been nearly murdered in cold blood by both weapons and street fights by people who I believed was a friend over a 5 dollar bet. Some friend huh? I am of course aged now but even I know that all of the technique in the world does not win fights if you dont have the necessary physical attributes to be in a competitive fight in the first place. Knowing how to fight and actually doing it are two different things.

 

[ROcknrollracing]

Joe Rogan is a employee of the UFC. Remember every champion that is about to fight is one of the if not the best ever. Cause they are about to sell tickets and ppvs and make the UFC profit. Joe is a legend and extremely knowledgable. But whoever is the money right now will get grossly overhyped by him. Cause that's part of his job. Conor McGregor was never ever the best. They cut promos.

Joe is not a knowledgable as you think he is about fighting. He is a talking head for the most part.

 

[Trabaho]

I definitely do envy Max. Having your own family is big.

 

[ROcknrollracing]

In HW kickboxing the K1 champs were factually the best HW kickboxers globaly. I don't know much about Muay Thai fighters. I clearly understand the sport but don't know the fighters. It's kickboxing with +2 rounds clinch and elbows. Thai scoring rewards kicks more and rewards blocked kicks. The rules are brutal compared to kickboxing as you are allowed to kick and knee opponents that are falling to the ground. They literaly don't prohibit ball shots, they just don't go for them as gentleman. Elbows will kill the shit out of you. Rip your lips open, shatter your orbital. If you are unlucky.

Who the best MMA and Kickboxing fighters are is easy to check. However it's not undisputed as talent in MMA is a bit spread out but UFC got 60% of it.

In kickboxing it's just glory and One fc. Especially Glory. For low weights I don't even know I don't watch it. Japan got some skinny guys going on again.

You simply can spend some hours checking out everyones record on wikipedia and fight finder. Make your conclusion. Or google rankings.

And HW Muay Thai is the biggest joke ever. The most empty division in all of combat sports. Barely exists globaly. The #1 ranked HW Muay Thai fighter got brushed of like a amateur by Roman. Dude is 5'11 and has a 10-6 record and was the #1 ranked guy. I'm certain he is good, but it's the most empty weight class in fighting.

Participation has something to do with it as well. There is not that many people competing in kickboxing so it's easier to pinpoint the best one.

 

[Trabaho]

I fall off the wagon trying to follow too many sports at a time

i noticed you like all sports but soccer

but I have forgotten more about sports especially fighting than most people will ever learn.

most people watched a few boxing matches on tv that's it. We are a niche, we are sherdoggers. We literaly go online to text each other about fighting

My families history has a history of fighting and violence under no choice of my own.

you guys just free for all fighting the surroundings ?

I have been on again and off again watching all types of fights from family hosted underground chicken fights

Lol I thought Mexicans do chicken fights

to choking out my own cousin before even knowing what BJJ was in the 80s. I have been nearly murdered in cold blood by both weapons and street fights by people who I believed was a friend over a 5 dollar bet.

I know, you told me. Well that's the hood, right ?

Some friend huh? I am of course aged now

40 and how many years ?

but even I know that all of the technique in the world does not win fights if you dont have the necessary physical attributes to be in a competitive fight in the first place.

here is the thing. You only get the technique trough training. Training technique makes you sport specific athletic. Best technique have guys who trained the most in the sport. So they are also extremely athletic in the sport specific way.

Technical ability is not some lanky nerd. Buakaw got amazing kicking, knee and clinch technique. Getting that technique also made him a powerhouse. Technical guys are strong. They gotta train extremely hard to get effective technique. Normal people who aren't into the niche of training combat sports got no technique. Just phisical power and brutality wins. You gotta realise these sports are so niche you are free to go train at any fighters gym possible. They all got public classes. You can go train at Conor McGregors gym if you pay the fee. Khabib got their own crew, however at the same facility that is open to sign up to the public. That is how rare it is for the general public to train mma or something like that. Soccer is 1 milion times more popular and you can not train with any pro teams ever in Europe. Not even second league. You gotta be elite to get to the second league.
Me and you literaly can pay a few houndred dollars to train for a month at the exact same gym Buakaw trains. That is how niche fighting is. Ok there are a gazilion gyms in Thailand. Yeah Boxing gyms are common too. But out of 100 I think only 1 person on the street got actual judo,bjj, boxing or mma skills. So you are basing winning fights from a street perspective. Cole train and me are talking about the sport. Sherdog is actually not about street fights at all.

Knowing how to fight and actually doing it are two different things.

if you don't know how to actually do it than you don't know how to fight ?

 

[Trabaho]

Joe is not a knowledgable as you think he is about fighting. He is a talking head for the most part.

No it's the other way around. You are not as knowledgable as you think. You can learn a lot from Joe. He is older than us. He has seen almost every UFC event live and knows all the fighters personaly. He has a bjj black belt, that blows both of us out the water. He might not have boxing but he was a national take one do champ as young man. He KOd people in take one do with head kicks. He is athletic. He can kick and grapple. He also got a 2-1 amateur kickboxing record. And he is smart in general. Biggest podcast globaly. Unless this is fake info. He is also humble. Joe is the voice of the UFC. He is pretty amazing. Most importantly just a chill dude and humble. Never shows off. Always looks to learn new things. Isn't afraid to ask smarter people.

 

[Trabaho]

Participation has something to do with it as well. There is not that many people competing in kickboxing so it's easier to pinpoint the best one.

If you wanna know the best thai fighters, google ramajadan or what it's called stadion champs. Ask chat gp or google who are the current Muay Thai champs in Thailand. It isn't some secret info.