What The Real Next Evolution Will Be in MMA

[FIghtxIQ]

Leg locks and leg attacks are currently very trendy among high level mma grapplers. No one wants to follow Ryan hall to the ground because of his leg attacks.

Guys like Oliveira, Dariush and CDF are always looking to attack the legs whenever they're off their back.And knowing how to defend against leg locks and various leg attacks are part of MMA evolution too.

Yes it will be more relevant in the future when there are more fighters with Ryan Hall's level of leg locks in the UFC/mma. He's one of the few fighters who's leg locks you have to really respect once he starts going for your legs.

 

[Kryptt]

This next breed of fighter is going to be something special boys. You just wait and see.

As long as it isn't more Hump and Thump tactics.

 

[Dan Torrance]

No I'm not trolling. I'm not just a coach teaching what others know. I would be teaching what others don't know. Dagestan is great with their wrestling, I wouldn't be doing a specialist style. That's why it's "evolution" of mma. Having a bunch of trainers/coaches that teach specialists styles separately is how mma is right now, that's not evolution because it's still all separate disciplines.

Starting young definitely helps, but people still train their whole life starting as kids and still lose to people that only trained for a few years. So it's not always an overall deciding factor of success if they are starting young. It definitely does help though.

LOL.

Look, there will always be outliers but ideally you actually have to start young because of physics. It's just one of those things that I'm not sure you can or should really train the same way as an adult.

Once you factor that in it sort of changes things.

The picture you're painting is not really what I have in mind but more of your funny projection.

One way I can describe it is that film The Karate Kid, surprisingly, isn't too far off from how it actually ideally works, in a way.

 

[Dan Torrance]

No I'm not trolling. I'm not just a coach/trainer teaching what others already know and stuff that was taught to them. I would be teaching what others don't know. Dagestan is great with their wrestling, I wouldn't be doing a specialist style. That's why it's "evolution" of mma. Having a bunch of trainers/coaches that teach specialists styles separately is how mma is right now, that's not evolution because it's still all separate disciplines.

Starting young definitely helps, but people still train their whole life starting as kids and still lose to people that only trained for a few years. So it's not always an overall deciding factor of success if they are starting young. It definitely does help though.

If I did nothing and helped no one I think it would end up there but it would take maybe another 15-25 years which put me 40 or 50 years ahead of the curve.

I stopped doing it before the term was even coined.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

LOL.

Look, there will always be outliers but ideally you actually have to start young because of physics. It's just one of those things that I'm not sure you can or should really train the same way as an adult.

Once you factor that in it sort of changes things.

The picture you're painting is not really what I have in mind but more of your funny projection.

One way I can describe it is that film The Karate Kid, surprisingly, isn't too far off from how it actually ideally works, in a way.

You don't even know what I have in mind as I am not including details on purpose. It's not just about outliers, it has to do with training and body awareness. Seems like people take forever to learn/teach and do certain things and there's people that figured out ways to learn/teach and do things faster. That's why they get better in a shorter amount of time and learn more in those few years instead of taking 10 years to do it. So the difference is in the training, learning, and teaching.

Karate Kid is just karate. That is one discipline, that wouldn't be evolution of mma. That's just one aspect of mma.

I've thought/trained people for a short amount of time that were able to beat more experienced fighters that has been training years longer. So how long someone has been training vs someone else doesn't always equal an automatic win. I know how to speed up the learning process. I bring these people to gyms to test it out vs other fighters.

 

[Pastinaca1]

The secret is that all fighters will need to master both guards

 

[Dan Torrance]

You don't even know what I have in mind as I am not including details on purpose. It's not just about outliers, it has to do with training and body awareness. Seems like people take forever to learn/teach and do certain things and there's people that figured out ways to learn/teach and do things faster. That's why they get better in a shorter amount of time and learn more in those few years instead of taking 10 years to do it. So the difference is in the training, learning, and teaching.

Karate Kid is just karate. That is one discipline, that wouldn't be evolution of mma. That's just one aspect of mma.

I've thought/trained people for a short amount of time that were able to beat more experienced fighters that has been training years longer. So how long someone has been training vs someone else doesn't always equal an automatic win. I know how to speed up the learning process. I bring these people to gyms to test it out vs other fighters.

LOL!

You're a riot man!

I really do just want to tell you.

I've kept this bottled up inside for a lifetime and in truth I've spent most of my life wishing it never happened.

Being way ahead of the curve can truly suck.

It's like the allegory of the cave.

I'll just tell you this because I think it will add a great twist to you're rendition.

I was chosen.

 

[CallMeCasual]

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I'm not wrong tho lol.

btw, I just took a look at rankingmma. It's not looking good for you Americans in the future. Not a lot of young guys coming up that are American in the HW division. You have the old guys up in there in the rankings, but they will sooner than later get picked off one by one. I believe Curtis will be the only American left up there in a few years.

 

[Dan Torrance]

I've thought/trained people for a short amount of time that were able to beat more experienced fighters that has been training years longer. So how long someone has been training vs someone else doesn't always equal an automatic win. I know how to speed up the learning process. I bring these people to gyms to test it out vs other fighters.

That sounds interesting.

There's always going to be exceptional standouts that can learn things later in life or that have a number of prior experiences in life that are fresh enough in their muscle memory that allows them to progress quickly.

My vision regards creating the infrastructure for those prior life experiences that make someone able to progress more quickly through training. It would piggyback off the current infrastructure and add to it. It's not intended to compete with it but to work synergistically with it.

 

[Dan Torrance]

You don't even know what I have in mind as I am not including details on purpose. It's not just about outliers, it has to do with training and body awareness. Seems like people take forever to learn/teach and do certain things and there's people that figured out ways to learn/teach and do things faster. That's why they get better in a shorter amount of time and learn more in those few years instead of taking 10 years to do it. So the difference is in the training, learning, and teaching.

Karate Kid is just karate. That is one discipline, that wouldn't be evolution of mma. That's just one aspect of mma.

I've thought/trained people for a short amount of time that were able to beat more experienced fighters that has been training years longer. So how long someone has been training vs someone else doesn't always equal an automatic win. I know how to speed up the learning process. I bring these people to gyms to test it out vs other fighters.

ohh.. oh... oh...

Ok, I thought you were trolling me and I didn't take your response seriously.

No, for sure they are ways to learn faster.

See, I'm not really thinking about like, one on one training here.

I'm thinking more in terms of the supply chain itself.

I think there's a supply chain issue and I have solutions to it in mind.

I'm thinking of the bigger picture.

Some might interpret me as being opposed to the current supply chain but that isn't the case but a misinterpretation.

I'm thinking in terms of how to synergize with the current supply chain.

 

[Deleted member 576123]

HW is gonna be pretty much all black for a few years

 

[Deleted member 576123]

I would say it will be almost entirely Eastern Europeans at the top. The best upcoming prospects in the HW division are almost all Eastern Europeans.

If USADA takes a back foot, then yes, but if not, then it will be whatever America has on roster.

 

[Sparky]

Aikido. KOs will be a thing of the past.

 

[Dan Torrance]

You don't even know what I have in mind as I am not including details on purpose. It's not just about outliers, it has to do with training and body awareness. Seems like people take forever to learn/teach and do certain things and there's people that figured out ways to learn/teach and do things faster. That's why they get better in a shorter amount of time and learn more in those few years instead of taking 10 years to do it. So the difference is in the training, learning, and teaching.

Karate Kid is just karate. That is one discipline, that wouldn't be evolution of mma. That's just one aspect of mma.

I've thought/trained people for a short amount of time that were able to beat more experienced fighters that has been training years longer. So how long someone has been training vs someone else doesn't always equal an automatic win. I know how to speed up the learning process. I bring these people to gyms to test it out vs other fighters.

I already synthesized it 25 years ago.

I'm kind of the guy.

I was chosen to do it by [...]

 

[chaos_36]

Elite strikers with TDD are going to be a thing for a while and so are heavy handed wrestlers. These are the two hardest styles to stop because you're basically forced to fight them in their element.

 

[Dan Torrance]

Elite strikers with TDD are going to be a thing for a while and so are heavy handed wrestlers. These are the two hardest styles to stop because you're basically forced to fight them in their element.

Well, that's not really an evolution then is it LOL!

 

[chaos_36]

Well, that's not really an evolution then is it LOL!

No not really but maybe the strikers just become more elite, like crossover from Muay Thai, Glory or have high level boxers actually learn grappling. Extremely hard to beat an elite striker if you can't take them down.

 

[Jojomojo]

With more MT and Sambo guys making the transition, i predict that the dominance of american college wrestling will be finally broken even at the lower ranks.
The new bread sie already here tho, just look at Petr Yan.

 

[Dan Torrance]

No not really but maybe the strikers just become more elite, like crossover from Muay Thai, Glory or have high level boxers actually learn grappling. Extremely hard to beat an elite striker if you can't take them down.

Not if you just Haduken them from a distance.

 

[Jojomojo]

Elite strikers with TDD are going to be a thing for a while and so are heavy handed wrestlers. These are the two hardest styles to stop because you're basically forced to fight them in their element.

I agree with the first, but heavy handed wrestlers have dominated the mid cards for a good while now. Its a good combo because of the reasons you stated, but rarely seems to be good enough to beat more well rounded strikers.