What started the pussificaiton of American men?

[kahiljabroni]

really ? I found that stuff bullshit and lame as fuck, long before that.

I’m thinking kids that were like 5 and under when we went into Iraq....basically all the adolescent pukes of today

 

[Twelve75]

I’m thinking kids that were like 5 and under when we went into Iraq....basically all the adolescent pukes of today

I find the left or far left, the most annoying fucks on the planet, but I've never went in for the whole flag waving, dying for my country, thanks for your service and our freedom bullshit.

 

[kahiljabroni]

I find the left or far left, the most annoying fucks on the planet, but I've never went in for the whole flag waving, dying for my country, thanks for your service and our freedom bullshit.

I think Iraq war was biggest blunder in history...just my 2 cents

 

[moreorless87]

The guys i see whining about the pussification of modern society are usually if not always gigantic pussies themselves. If we want to talk about ideal masculinity then grown men don't sit around whining about things. Its the very antithesis of what an old man is supposed to be.

Honestly yeah I tend to agree, this isn't the marlborough man complaining the steel mills have been shut down.

The reality is that a lot of the alt right are just as bitchy as the SJW's they oppose, both love to play passive aggressive games on the net and arguably obcess far too much about issues like transsexuals that have next to no effect on their lives.

 

[ithinktheymad]

Honestly yeah I tend to agree, this isn't the marlborough man complaining the steel mills have been shut down.

The reality is that a lot of the alt right are just as bitchy as the SJW's they oppose, both love to play passive aggressive games on the net and arguably obcess far too much about issues like transsexuals that have next to no effect on their lives.

<puh-lease75>

 

[moreorless87]

The biggest pussification would be that men who would once be operating heavy machinery and bantering with each other are now working tills at wallmart for half the wage having to smile and say thank you to everyone.

The whole retail sector is just full of low paid demeaning jobs and has massively been on the rise for decades. Managers bullying powerless workers is pretty much the industry standard now.

 

[Twelve75]

Honestly yeah I tend to agree, this isn't the marlborough man complaining the steel mills have been shut down.

The reality is that a lot of the alt right are just as bitchy as the SJW's they oppose, both love to play passive aggressive games on the net and arguably obcess far too much about issues like transsexuals that have next to no effect on their lives.

doesn't effect them ? maybe they don't want it to get normalised to the point it may effect them, drifting off topic, but you let this mentally ill shit slide, what is next ? NAMBLA being maybe legit ?

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Two proud Southern boys. @Captain Davis

 

[moreorless87]

doesn't effect them ? maybe they don't want it to get normalised to the point it may effect them, drifting off topic, but you let this mentally ill shit slide, what is next ? NAMBLA being maybe legit ?

No I think you realise that these issues must be decided on moral grounds not some kind of catch all "slippery slope" that throws in literally any kind of non mainstream sexuality as equally immoral.I mean you look at philia and actually I think its clear things are improving, its not vanished of course but theres more being done about it now than there was in the "golden age" many look back to where abuse was quietly brushed under the carpet.

Again the reality is that the actual effect of transsexuals on peoples lives is incredibly limited compared to the degree of obsession there is about the issue which to me just seems insecure.

 

[moreorless87]

You knew this was coming didn't you? <45>

 

[Twelve75]

No I think you realise that these issues must be decided on moral grounds not some kind of catch all "slippery slope" that throws in literally any kind of non mainstream sexuality as equally immoral.

Again the reality is that the actual effect of transsexuals on peoples lives is incredibly limited compared to the degree of obsession there is about the issue which to me just seems insecure.

but the slippery slope does exist, I had/still have no issue with the rights of gay & lesbians, but I refuse to indulge some mentally ill man in his fantasy that he is a women, the same way I refuse to go along with telling a fat woman she's curvy.

 

[moreorless87]

but the slippery slope does exist, I had/still have no issue with the rights of gay & lesbians, but I refuse to indulge some mentally ill man in his fantasy that he is a women, the same way I refuse to going along with telling a fat woman she's curvy.

No, as I said I think your "slippery slope" depends on throwing together various kinds of sexuality purely on the grounds there non mainstream.

The debate about transsexuals is really not at all similar to the debate of philia which again I would argue is an issue that's improved in recent years and indeed was one that often took place in more conservative situations such as abuse by priests.

it does I think go both ways as well though with many non left wing liberals focusing on such issues because they don't want to deal with the elephant in the room when it comes to wealth inequality.

 

[Loiosh]

no, but that made me laugh pretty damn hard. I mean using a bow drill, or straight friction fire. For survival purposes.

This serves to illustrate the point I'm going to make.

The more civilized and technologically advanced we get, the less proficient we become at primitive, menial tasks, tasks that have always been considered masculine.

This trend has been in place for a very long time.

Just look at what boy scouts had to do to earn merit badges a hundred years ago.

 

[Wrath of Foamy]

Health & Safety

I'm an example of this, as I was forced to stay away from the wooden jungle gym in the playground, where the other kids played. Why?

Petit-mal epilepsy.

I was coddled, whilst my older brother was not. We both had troubles growing up but as an ex-paratrooper, he is doing a lot better than I and is seen as the more reliable one in the family. He can do all kinds of things and Mum runs to him if she is in any kind of turmoil. Whilst Mum loves me, I feel like she doesn't trust me due to my past mental health issues.

It starts very young, if I am correct.

 

[NHB7]

TS, that concept of masculinity is losing because it’s a loser. It’s dying because it’s weak. You bet on a losing horse. Time to BE A MAN, and stop whining about it and start constructing a new concept of masculinity. Perhaps based on qualities like:

Leadership
Confidence
Compassion
Hard Work
Courage
Etc

And less on childhood fist fights.

 

[SMillard]

clapping gif.

It is uncommon to find ones views so mirrored. I find this matter to be a truth of staggering power and so fitting of the data available that ignorance of it seems to border on lunacy.

I can only conclude that this truth conflicts with a larger belief, such as free will and determinism; maybe it is the idea free will itself it conflicts with, or a belief in our own male superiority along necessary evolutionary lines.

I think you are correct, free will and determination are finite at best. Face it, we've been programed to respond to women's needs and desires. As those needs and desires evolve so do we so that we can continue to compete for breeding rights on the primal level. I think of it like muscle atrophy; if you don't need it, you don't use it, if you don't use it it gradually degrades. In first world affluent areas they don't need men to be physically dominating over others, they don't need men to be aggressive in pursuit of potential mates they don't need men to act as a provider and protector. Now if something catastrophic happens those same women will revert back to attraction to the biggest badass mofo on the block and the pendulum will swing back. Hell look how women act after a natural disaster like a hurricane or earthquake, you'll never see a woman screaming "HELP, I need some soy boy to critique blog"

We've been suckers for it ever since and will forever be. No sense bitching about it it's what we are hardwired to do.

 

[EOW]

American women

 

[moreorless87]

TS, that concept of masculinity is losing because it’s a loser. It’s dying because it’s weak. You bet on a losing horse. Time to BE A MAN, and stop whining about it and start constructing a new concept of masculinity. Perhaps based on qualities like:

Leadership
Confidence
Compassion
Hard Work
Courage
Etc

And less on childhood fist fights.

Again though that does kind of highlight that the "masculinity" that's under threat is actually a modern invention itself, seemingly more like the mindset of a stereotypical school jock carried into adulthood.

 

[UKBBC]

So Glad I have 2 daughters...gonna teach them to emasculate males. Any guy who can break through deserves to be my Son-in-law

 

[Kirin]

at the right-wing circle jerk from some of the "snowflakes" in here. Is there any problem they see in society which they don't blame on their imaginary view of the "left"?

The champions of the working classes have always been the real left, not these whiny liberals or their counterparts on the right who do more crying and complaining than actual implementation of any positive course of action.