What really happened in Woodley vs Usman

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  1. Harlekin

    Harlekin Brown Belt

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    Woodley only has a right hand in striking. As most right handed wrestlers.

    Why was Woodley so succesful?
    Thompson x2, Gastelum, Maia, Lawler, Dong Hyun Kim and Till are SOUTHPAWS(left handed) and the best weapon against southpaws is the right hand, because of the angle and distance.
    Woodley is 6:0 against southpaws in his last 8
    Woodley is 0:2 against right handed fighters in his last 8
    His 4 losses are against right handed fighters and he is unbeaten against southpaws.

    Striking knowledge
    Right handed boxers mostly have 2 good hands, as they grow up with a dominant right hand and then in boxing they use their left at least twice as often.
    Left handed strikers like Conor and Till are different, as their southpaw stance gives them a better angle for their left hand and they use their right to set up punches. Also they then learn to wrestle more with their left.
    Not only has Woodley only 1 hand against Usman, he is also used to fight southpaws for years now.

    Woodley's left
    Coming back to Woodley. He uses his left jab as a range finder and to feint. His feints are worthless as nobody has to worry about his lead left hook. And his jab isn't there and doesn't hurt.

    Usman
    Usman said this and used it.
    To negate Woodleys only hand weapon, you just have to have a high left guard and walk to your right. Until you are near the fence. Ducking, feinting, weaving and you are there. Rory even made a joke out of it.

    Usman's gameplan

    (Usman is taller and therefore can cut more weight. Tyron looked not as fit as the last times. Rap Album and media stuff)
    Tyron is 36, Usman is 31. Therefore reflexes and stamina bonus goes to Usman.
    Tyron has more fast twitch muscles, Usman has better endurance muscles.
    After Usman avoids the first 10 right hands he basically has won the fight.

    Woodley's gameplan
    Walking back, till he has a chance to land his big right. It just didn't work, because of the reasons mentioned above. He then likes to go to the fence where he can defend the takedown. But Usman used his size to drain him at the fence first. There he used his size and the fence.

    Usman surprised us with his wrestling. A lot thought he would have the advantage later on due to better stamina, but he was better early on.

    Ways to win for woodley:
    At 36 he probably won't have the youth to implement them anymore.
    He could circle more. Stay on his toes. Develop a left hand
    Hell even start the fight in the middle of the cage, instead of just staying in his corner.
    But if a fighter hasn't implemented this the last 13 years of his career. Chances are he won't now.
    On top of that Duke Roufus isn't a good striking coach. Woodley's boxing coach is a bit better.
    If the younger fighter won the first fight and the older fighter is already out of prime years.
    The younger fighter usually wins the rematch.
     
  2. flowoftruth

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    Thank you for the breakdown. What are your fighting credentials btw?
     
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  5. FlyingDeathKick

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    First time he's faced somebody who can both strike and grapple since the Rory fight.
     
  6. Mortal Wombat

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    Great post. You should do more of these.
     
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    Great post. I gotta ask how do you feel GSP vs Woodley would have gone?
     
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    TNGS1 Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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  9. Bend NvR Break

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    Usman was focused on fighting and winning.

    Woodley had to split his mind up between 30 obligations including releasing a rap album the day of.

    Usman is a savage.

    Woodley got civilized.
     
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    Decent breakdown
    I still feel Woodley would beat George but still
     
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    So Woodley sucks and can only beat Southpaw guys. Got it!
     
  12. Mortal Wombat

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    I underestimated him. I did pick him to win UD but I didn't expect to see that much of a beating. When Rogan said it was one of the best performances he has called at the time I thought it was pretty exaggerated. It was a masterclass. Woodley has looked great and after Till I thought shit this dude has a good chance to stay Champ for ages and surpass Gsp. I would be very interested in a Woodley vs Colby fight just to see if Colby can do the same, and if Tyrone can make any adjustments. A rematch with Usman would go the same way imo. His style is tailor made to beat him.
     
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  13. Harlekin

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    Not fighting credentials: Few years Wing Chun, waste of time.(for me)
    Few years of boxing with very low level fights.
    A little bit of wrestling with my Dad, who was a wrestler and some grappling with friends from grappling. I know a few chokes and stuff, but I'm basically a white belt :)
    A few fights on the street, which wasn't smart and nearly cost me an eye.
     
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    He lost, therefore he was never that good.

    #sherdoglogic
     
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    The left-hand theory is right on. Twood never had a jab or a lead left-hook and if you cant fix that somebody will capitalize. Ive sparred a lot of southpaws and its true, you have to feed those fools right-hands, leading punches with the right hand in order to get off.
     
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  17. Harlekin

    Harlekin Brown Belt

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    Thank you.
    A few weeks ago a lot of people had Woodley winning against Gsp.
    Me too.
    Now we think different.
    I knew Woodley has only a right hand, while the fight was happening, but the southpaw thing I just noticed these days and had to google his opponents. Then it hit me.
    Woodley always has that right hand bomb and Gsp was hurt by Serra and Bisping.
    Gsp definately wins the rounds though and he has Freddie Roach who really should read Woodley's striking and notice that.
    Gsp by points 8/10 times and Woodley via knockdowns/Ko 2/10
     
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  18. loyalyolayal

    loyalyolayal Steel Belt

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    Better than Greg Jackson.
     
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  19. Caio

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    Something about his knee, I guess.
     
  20. Harlekin

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    :) Jackson teaches his fighters a lot.
    It's very obvious though, that there aren't many/any good technical boxers at Jacksons. Winklejohn only has that 80s karate kid kickboxing.
     
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