What is a lucky punch?

[jx820]

It's an excuse that whiners made up to justify why the guy who lost is really better than the guy who won.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

Maybe not but more likely it was complacency on Graham's part. He had his opponent pinned into a corner and Jackson was shelling up then he let go his right hand and caught Herol mid-combo.

Ref also said he’d stop it if Jackson was put down again iirc. Herol went for the finish and paid the price

 

[droolingliver]

For me, a lucky punch would be when the outcome doesn't match the intention. e.g. Trying to throw a straight right, slipping on water and while trying to regain balance, KOing the opponent with a left hook.

Following that definition, most of the punches deemed lucky in this thread are not lucky. McCall and Rahman both threw bombs they had practiced thousands of times and they landed. Extremely high odds? Yes. Fortunate? Yes. Unlikely to happen again? Yes. Lucky? No.

 

[BluntTrauma21]

I don't believe in lucky punches, personally.

 

[aries]

Ref also said he’d stop it if Jackson was put down again iirc. Herol went for the finish and paid the price

Yeah Herol definitely thought he had his man nearly out of there. I think if Graham had just boxed him at a distance the fight would have been stopped because of Julian's eye at the end of that round.

 

[Erratic]

In other sports there are genuinely lucky plays where you meant to do A and instead did B. For example hitting the net cord in tennis, you didn’t mean to hit the net that was an error on your part but as a result of that error the ball might ricochet and land somewhere that wrong foots your opponent.

In boxing there is no real accident. You threw a punch and it landed. When people say it though I sort of know what they mean; it’s usually a big punch against the run of play or a puncher who is otherwise vastly outskilled manages to connect.

Probably shouldn’t really be called a lucky punch though.

Well said. If i got a huge knockout after being outclassed, and someone called it a lucky punch, I think i'd probably respond with "Well I guess i intended to MISS that big bomb on the chin then, didn't I "

That said, I do understand where people are coming from.. I think they mean that a guy is kind of covering an area wildly swinging, and just hoping for the best as someones head is moving. THe shot may not be aimed at the chin at all, just hoping it hits their opponents head, and insead it lands right on the button and boom!

 

[Oiler]

Rahman lewis 1 had 0% to do with a "lucky" punch

Rahman was "lucky" that lewis fought a horseshit fight but that punch was all skill, rahman saw the chance and took it. Many other fighters lack the killer instinct or timing to strike when the opponent starts clowning

 

[Ancient Warrior]

Lewis-Rahman I

Lol

 

[jeremyemilio]

i have seen this idea bantered around the UFC forum, a fair bit (not surprised, they are a silly bunch). I was however a bit surprised to see this "theory" in the boxing forum. Can someone please explain what a "lucky" punch is.

A lucky punch is about like if me and Lebron have a shooting contest from full court, winner gets the other guy's house, and I win by sinking my first shot. Was I aiming to hit that shot? Sure I was. But to hit it on the first try? Against Lebron? With my house on the line? And to go away with his house?

Personally, I'd consider that lucky. Really lucky. But not half of Sherdog. Nope half of Sherdog only thinks that's lucky if, say, I trip as I'm releasing the ball, and the ball ricochets off of Lebron's face, and into the net. Because someone convinced half of Sherdog that's it's only lucky if it's not what you were trying to do.

 

[General_Speckz]

Seems like a semantics thing. Most people here don't mind saying it was a fortunate punch, but consider lucky punch to mean a wildly fortunate punch, which in boxing is hard to say definitively. I think punches after / during a break are the ones you could say were lucky, there's a lot of cunning in there too tho.

 

[mozfonky]

A lucky punch is about like if me and Lebron have a shooting contest from full court, winner gets the other guy's house, and I win by sinking my first shot. Was I aiming to hit that shot? Sure I was. But to hit it on the first try? Against Lebron? With my house on the line? And to go away with his house?

Personally, I'd consider that lucky. Really lucky. But not half of Sherdog. Nope half of Sherdog only thinks that's lucky if, say, I trip as I'm releasing the ball, and the ball ricochets off of Lebron's face, and into the net. Because someone convinced half of Sherdog that's it's only lucky if it's not what you were trying to do.

it's an interesting arguement, I think there is an element of luck in a punch, thrown amongst hundreds of others that not only lands but lands just right where it shuts out a guys lights, those punches are the rarest in boxing, most kayos aren't like that, a guy gets hurt and the opponent follows up until the ref stops it. Then, there are times a boxers throws a punch, with no target at all and it lands perfectly. So, I would say, there is at least an element of luck sometimes even though, on the whole, i agree, a guy is in there and has prepared for a long time to do this so, it's not really lucky. Like they say, "luck is when preparation meets oppurtunity".

 

[mozfonky]

Seems like a semantics thing. Most people here don't mind saying it was a fortunate punch, but consider lucky punch to mean a wildly fortunate punch, which in boxing is hard to say definitively. I think punches after / during a break are the ones you could say were lucky, there's a lot of cunning in there too tho.

luck is definitely a part of it, you have chavez swinging for the fences, landing heavy punches on taylor but not really hurting him until taylor got stupid in that last round and ended up in the perfect position to take a nice right hand that dropped him like he was shot. And then we have times like Manny against marquez, the first knockdown of the third fight, manny had his gloves over his eyes, lowered them just in time for marquez to land a good right, same happened with roy jones/tarver 2, roy had his glove up, blocking his own view, and tarver shoots a perfect left with roy never knowing what hit him, and he later made the point that tarver had his eyes closed and saying he landed a lucky punch, he never believed it though, he was never the same.

 

[djacobox372]

Luck is when peparation meets opportunity.

A "lucky punch" is when a fighter is presented with an opportunity that he normally wouldn't have been and capitalizes on it.

 

[Absolut]

No such thing in prize fighting. Guys are throwing- if your chin is in the way....

It’s not like a ricochet goal, bad hop single.

Julian Jackson threw his best weapon- Graham was there to receive if. Don’t tell Julian all his hard training, skill and ability was reduced to luck