what if jds' face looked clean after the fight?

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  1. underwearhero

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    I'm sure a lot of people would take away from cain's performance, calling him pillow-fisted and that he got lucky. We'd probably hear some people calling the decision a bad or close one. It's amazing how a bruised fighters face (or lack thereof) can impact the overall significance of their opponent performance. But the fact is that people's face bruise and bleed differently. Some fighter will never bleed even after being hit a hundred times. Then their opponents get called pillow-fisted.

    This is actually something people had been saying about cain, how his punches are weak and he's just a wrestler who can't strike. You won't hear those people anymore, why? Because of JDS's face. But cain has fought other guys before and some of them didn't look much bruised at all after the fight, like kongo and rothwell. What does that mean? that cain was weak then? no it means that you can't judge somebodies power based on the visible damage on their opponents face since people bruise/bleed differently.
     
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    While that's true, he also did much less damage against Kongo and big ben.
     
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    Actually when you think about it, if JDS had won the fight, people wouldn't be saying that the first fight was a fluke.
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    After that beating if jds face was fine then I'd say he got a strong ass face
     
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    What if JDS KO'd Cain, then he would still be champ.
     
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    Lauzon's face appears to be healing up nicely.
     
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    but how do we know that? because their faces looked better, i'd have to rewatch those fights but I do remember they got hit like thousand times and showed very little sign of damage. It is possible that they didn't get hit with huge haymakers and mostly short punches. But it's still interesting to see JDS face so battered. He'd be the first opponent who's face looked so bad. Bigfoot had a huge cut caused by an elbow but jds right eye was shut, lips swollen.

    Does this mean that his face just get bruised/swollen very quickly or that Cain was throwing bigger strikes than usual?
     
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    TS be correct. People invest way too much into that stuff. The goofy meme train is already rolling down the tracks so it'll be ignored but he makes some sense.
     
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    what if we all lived on mars? we'd be martians :eek:
     
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    True but it didn't happen that way. Pointless thread.
     
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    this is not a 'what if' thread, read the post first. I'm talking about the impact of battered face on the mma commuinity/ranking/fighter's ability.
     
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    why is it pointless? people rate a fighters performance/ability all of the time based on how much visible damage they can cause.
     
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    Kongo was clearly very messed up at the end of his fight with Cain. His face was pouring blood when he got to a knee.

    And it's not Cain's fault the Rothwell stoppage was somewhat premature. There are people that used to call Fedor a weak puncher too.
     
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    That's like saying what if Mir didn't break Nogs arm
     
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    So if Cain didn't punch Junior as much would people say the fight was closer?

    Yes
     
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    some people would have rated his performance less, believe it or no. While his bjj skills would be the same.
     
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    i'm not talking about the amount of punches, but visible damage shown on jds face. kongo and rothwell got punched a 1000 times as well but didn't show the same visible damage and people were talking about cain like he's just a cardio-monster. Now that we've seen a lot of damage all of the sudden cains striking has become dangerous when it probably always was in the first place.

    Do you see how visible damage affect how people view a fighters ability?
     
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    haha, this entire thread is filled with TS just defending himself from everyone else on Earth
     
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    what if JDS beat cain????
     

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