Elections What does today's left CLAIM to stand for?

Hdfi said:
lol at dumbfucks who believe in Manifest Destiny, God etc. in 2025.
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What’s more plausible? The existence of a creator or man turns into a woman if he says he’s one?
 
gspieler said:
Just some guesses, but...

Stronger social safety net
Taxing the rich
Socialized healthcare and education
Livable wage and generally strong labor laws
Measures that may slow down the rate that we're destroying our own ecosystem
End prison industry complex
Greater investment into mental health services and housing the unhoused
Female reproductive rights
Separation of church and state
End war on drugs
More accountability and transparency from law enforcement
Stricter gun laws
LGBTQ-related rights
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Stronger social safety net - I am unaware of that topic so I can't comment
Taxing the rich - The rich pay a lot of tax
Socialized healthcare and education - We have socialized healthcare here. It sucks.
Livable wage and generally strong labor laws - You're paid what you're worth.
Measures that may slow down the rate that we're destroying our own ecosystem - See: Asia
End prison industry complex - Criminals should face consequences.
Greater investment into mental health services and housing the unhoused - Agree on the first part, but housing the homeless is a disaster in most places that try it.
Female reproductive rights - Move to a state that align with your beliefs on the matter
Separation of church and state - Agreed.
End war on drugs - Yeah ok
More accountability and transparency from law enforcement - Statistically a tiny issue magnified by the media
Stricter gun laws - No
LGBTQ-related rights - The alphabet people in America are some of the most protected and privileged people the Earth has ever seen.
 
Koro_11 said:
What’s more plausible? The existence of a creator or man turns into a woman if he says he’s one?
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none but at least we have biological evidence that men and women exist.
What evidence do you have that a Sky Fairy wants Americans to invade and annex other people's territories?
 
Edit - ignore, had second thoughts on this and I'm going to leave the dude alone.
 
Koro_11 said:
Serious question, can you guys tell me what your side CLAIMS to stand for, what's the message if you want people to get on board with you?

The reason I say "claims" is because we all know what you guys actually stand for, which is basically the downfall of western civilization, tear everything down and replace it with I have no clue what. But of course you can't come out and say this out loud so what are you left with, what exactly is your message to the people you wanna recruit to your side?

Trump and the conservative right, as much as you can't stand them, whether you agree with their views or not, you know exactly what they stand for because their messaging is very clear:

-America first
-Strict on border control
-Freedom of speech
-Liberty
-Meritocracy
-Manifest destiny
-Second amendment
-Conserve Christian and Western values
-Build a wall

etc...

Their views are very clear and out in the open, but what exactly is your message?

Serious replies please...
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The left stand for:

Open borders
More radical feminism
More anti white rules and policies
More abortion laws
More anti-gun laws
Tighter economic controls
Ban any non "sustainable" energy
Ban eating meat
Ban masculinity
Ban free speech

That is why they lost the election. People finally woke up.
 

The left's goal is destruction that's why they want open borders and unlimited immigration.
 
filthybliss said:
You are clueless if you think this is what the modern MAGA movement represents.

First of all, America was founded on separation of church and state so conserving “Christian” values is contradictory to what our founding fathers envisioned. Additionally, Christian values like “love thy neighbor” is like the opposite of what MAGA represents with all their fear mongering rhetoric about immigrants.

Furthermore, Western Values like democracy and freedom of speech is not something that Trump respects. He has announced that he’s going after media that doesn’t depict things that he doesn’t like, he also declared punishing people for protesting about the Gaza conflict.



You ask for serious replies but your effeminate ass is just looking for an excuse to go with your usual whining about what you “think” we represent instead of hearing us out.
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You literally shat on him. I feel like Koro is 12 years old. His responses and arguments are very similar
 
ringking1982 said:
The left stand for:

Open borders
More radical feminism
More anti white rules and policies
More abortion laws
More anti-gun laws
Tighter economic controls
Ban any non "sustainable" energy
Ban eating meat
Ban masculinity
Ban free speech

That is why they lost the election. People finally woke up.
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This is all just blatantly untrue

Now if you excuse me, I'm going to to eat a vegan hotdog (that's what I call my boyfriend!)
 
Hdfi said:
none but at least we have biological evidence that men and women exist.
What evidence do you have that a Sky Fairy wants Americans to invade and annex other people's territories?
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More plausible:

1. Everything around us came from nothing for no reason with no purpose

2. Everything around came from something else and we have a purpose
 
One big thing not using the US military to round up illegals an put them in corporate funded detention camps. Oh when my cost of a dozen eggs drop to 2.49 an a gallon of gas 1.99?
 
ferrisjso said:
Socialism.

The only reason the lefts message seems unclear is the US has 2 right wing parties that share an ideology that should be outlawed(capitalism). The ACTUAL lefts message is very clear. We want all free market forces gone. The Democrats main function is to help the Republicans while pretending they are the opposition. Which creates a ton of confusion.

Also Trumps ideology is fake populism and it is not at all clear there is a great deal of room reading involved. Trump to a large extent is very much "playing politics" and is not a committed ideologue though many in his crowd like like maybe a Steve Bannon are.
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Not socialism again...... Haven't enough people been killed trying different versions of it...... But let me guess, not a single one of them was true socialism........??

😂😂😂

I love Mao's version the most....... If you like murdering your own people.

Marxism if you want to be a fat lazy, adulterous racist parasite...... That hates your own people and farmers.........

What's your favourite?
 
William Huggins said:
Not socialism again...... Haven't enough people been killed trying different versions of it...... But let me guess, not a single one of them was true socialism........??

😂😂😂

I love Mao's version the most....... If you like murdering your own people.

Marxism if you want to be a fat lazy, adulterous racist parasite...... That hates your own people and farmers.........

What's your favourite?
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I like Pol Pots version where if you wear glasses and could read you’re considered too intelligent to be a commie and shouldn’t be allowed to live.
 
Modern leftism is now just campaigning for degeneracy, and then rallying against whatever the values and beliefs are of those who stand against their core beliefs in degeneracy.
 
It stands for 'tear it all down and install Communism" but it doesn't say it in such a blunt way.
 
Koro_11 said:
More plausible:

1. Everything around us came from nothing for no reason with no purpose

2. Everything around came from something else and we have a purpose
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I'd bet on 1. Virtual particles seem to come out of nowhere, so why not the big bang? Besides, Darwinian evolution explains the emergence of the human species without divine intervention, nor purpose of any kind. Adding something extremely complex like a God makes things less likely. And option 2 doesn't really explain anything, you'd still have the problem of God's origin.
 
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