Opinion What do you really think about Trump and Musk?

[Richmma80]

The country is literally on fire and Trump is not even in office yet

 

[SalvadorAllende]

I dont remember the details but my interest in Milei is always how he was able to gain support as a Libertarian candidate. In US we are herded like sheep into left or right, conservative or liberal, I am particularly disillusioned with both parties here in my country and "libertarian" is generally a bad word on either side. Im sure there is a growing sentiment here now that is similar to Argentina prior to Milei and I am curious how to take advantage

It was the same here.. we were basically a 2 party country: Peronism and whatever the other coalition was. Problem is we got screwed badly by both since the return of democracy in 1983 (and before this too).
Population got tired of the same people over and over again saying the same stuff and doing nothing but to make things worse. Picture living like this... Milei won when inflation was heading towards +100%.

I think you guys have a long way to go. Your economy is too strong. But maybe liberalism is more likely to grow as a local phenom in some place in the US and grow from that.

 

[SKYNET]

It was the same here.. we were basically a 2 party country: Peronism and whatever the other coalition was. Problem is we got screwed badly by both since the return of democracy in 1983 (and before this too).
Population got tired of the same people over and over again saying the same stuff and doing nothing but to make things worse. Picture living like this... Milei won when inflation was heading towards +100%.

I think you guys have a long way to go. Your economy is too strong. But maybe liberalism is more likely to grow as a local phenom in some place in the US and grow from that.

Well, your admission to voting for a person and party you are not religious about, yet you can openly admit to the success your country is having is something I can relate to and I am hopeful there can be a change here as there was in Argentina.

 

[FyrFytr998]

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[boingyman]

Trump is a rich man playing politics and Musk is trying to play him like a fiddle to help fill his pockets and support his own motives. At the end of the day I don’t think it really matters who’s president until we get someone that will actually stand up to congress, the lobbyist, the corruption and who will truly support the people

 

[Deleted member 592570]

Stopped reading the second you said 'nepo baby.'

This is one of those socialist terms that mean absolutely nothing.

You're from the West (Canada). Compared to 80% of the world population, you are a nepo baby. That's at a minimum. Just being born in the West you are in the top 20% in terms of advantage worldwide.

Without knowing your parents income, it's impossible to quantify past that, but the mere fact you use terms like 'nepo baby' means you probably went to college so you're at least in the top 10% worldwide in terms of the advantage you were given in life just for being born into your family.

So basically shut the fuck up.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Well, your admission to voting for a person and party you are not religious about, yet you can openly admit to the success your country is having is something I can relate to and I am hopeful there can be a change here as there was in Argentina.

Hopefully this whole experiment works out.

This is the first truly libertarian government in history (at least to this level).

 

[Slapjit]

If this thread it was been post in the War Room and you was also trash Our Eternal Champion #DonaldTrump, it was likely to become 20 pages deep already! This it was speak VOLUMES about the current state of American Politics and the division that now was plague Our Great Nation.

Our Brave Nation it was become divide, not by its Great People, but by insidious tactical effort of social media empires! These corporations they was only seek to divide and conquer our Brave Citizens for profit, spreading false narratives about both Grand Marshall Trump and President Sleeping Joe Biden to harvest like and subscribe. Once disagreements over topics like transexual they was maybe end in silence or respectful debate. But now, such things they was escalate into throwing of hands or slash by Daggers of Hate Speak. Times they was change as we was more connect yet disconnect than ever was before.

Because of this, New Leadership it was needed,which it was been capable of navigating the digitalize world with superior wisdom and unparalleled strength. This it was why my whole heart it was fill with Joy upon hearing Genius Innovator Elon Musk he was join-force with the Extraordinary Entrepreneur Donald Trump, to guide us forwards towards Brighter Futures.

Musk he was the memelord, while Trump he was the blackbelt irl troll. Together, they was become the ultimate symbol of laughter, resilience, and #Unity for Our People. Under their Visionary Leadership, spending it was to become reduce, freeing Brave Citizens from the oppressive grip of bloated government systems which was siphon money from Their Beautiful Children and Family. Their mission of #GlobalUnification through meme culture propagation it was truly inspire the hearts of millions like myself.

I was feel so strongly in the mission that I was URGE all peoples in less fortunate country to speak with local Political Leader and DEMAND #SupportUnification as One Great Nation under our Eternal Champion #DonaldTrump. This it was ensure guaranteed Prosperity and Freedom for three generations or more! But you must act quickly, as slots they was filling up fast! Best of lucks, my comrades! Together, we was march boldly into the Glorious Future!


#YesWeCanada #UKanDoIt #PropserityToTheSky2025

#StateofCanada #OldYork #NewScottsdale #RhodeIreland #Kenyamerica #Koreamerica #Australiamerica #EastIndiana #EastCanada

 

[Deleted member 592570]

I dont remember the details but my interest in Milei is always how he was able to gain support as a Libertarian candidate. In US we are herded like sheep into left or right, conservative or liberal, I am particularly disillusioned with both parties here in my country and "libertarian" is generally a bad word on either side. Im sure there is a growing sentiment here now that is similar to Argentina prior to Milei and I am curious how to take advantage

Things just got bad enough.

That's what it takes.

It's like an alcoholic or drug addict. As long as the people around them enable the behavior, they never sort their shit out.

 

[Beechwood]

It has been a winning combination, Trump and Musk. The two of them complement each other well i believe. It won't be another week till Trump and his staff are sworn in, but there seems to be high hopes that competency will be returning to government. That is the sense that i get. Better days are ahead.

i hope that happens soon. It might take some times for that to happen though. As i was reading a bit ago, and believe Biden is leaving Trump, Musk and others a "dumpster fire" to deal with ~

JD: POTATUS Left Us a 'Dumpster Fire'​

JD: POTATUS Left Us a 'Dumpster Fire'

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Why America Is in So Much Trouble​

Why America Is in So Much Trouble

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....The avalanche of federal spending hasn't stopped even though the COVID-19 pandemic ended over a year ago. We are three months into the 2025 fiscal year and on pace to spend an all-time-high $7 trillion and borrow $2 trillion. If we stay on this course, the federal budget could reach $10 trillion over the next decade.


This road to financial perdition cannot stand. It risks blowing up the Trump presidency.

Upon entering office, Trump should on day one call for a package of up to $500 billion of rescissions -- money the last Congress appropriated but has not been spent yet. Canceling the green energy subsidies alone could save nearly $100 billion. Why are we still spending money on COVID-19?

We could save tens of billions of dollars by ending corporate welfare programs -- such as the wheelbarrows full of tax dollars thrown at companies like Intel in the CHIPS Act. The Elon Musk Department of Government Efficiency is already identifying low-hanging fruit that needs to be cut from the tree.

Along with extending the Trump tax cut of 2017, this erasure of bloated federal spending is critical for economic revival and for reversing the income losses to the middle class under Biden.

This is especially urgent because the curse of inflation is NOT over. Since the Fed started cutting interest rates in October, commodity prices are up nearly 5%, and mortgage rates have again hit 7%, in part because the combination of cheap money and government expansion is a toxic economic brew -- as history teaches us.

Nothing could suck the oxygen and excitement out of the new Trump presidency more than a resumption of inflation at the grocery store and the gas pump. Trump's record-high approval rating will sink overnight if the cost of everything starts rising again.


Cutting spending won't be easy. The resistance won't just come from Bernie Sanders Democrats. He will have to convince lawmakers in his own party -- many of whom are already defending Green New Deal pork projects in their districts.

Trump should borrow a line from Nancy Reagan: Just say no -- to runaway government spending. Say yes to what Friedman titled his famous book: "Capitalism and Freedom."

Stephen Moore is a visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation. He is also an economic advisor to the Trump campaign. His new book, coauthored with Arthur Laffer, is "The Trump Economic Miracle."

 

[Sweater of AV]

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Eggs are $9 where I live but don't worry, Musk is gonna save us with Indians who shit in the street.

Jesus, do you live at the top of a beanstalk?

 

[Versez]

We have indians here working at best buy....gosh they smell BAD...its just nasty.

 

[BlackStrap]

belongs in war room, where ill informed people are loudest with their takes.

It may have been part of the update pains, but I did not have the option at the time. That is where I originally thought this would fit.

 

[BlackStrap]

I live in the United States. Every single person in my immediate family and closest circle of friends all agree this is by far and away the tightest spot we've all been in economically, throughout our lifetimes, both individually and as a collective.

Once you can move past this line of thinking, however you decide to preface that notion, will be the first time any one of us (my friends and family) will take you seriously.

That stance is not so helpful. I understand what you are feeling, just not why. Realize that I am writing from Canada. We are per capita poorer than the second poorest state in the US. It is even worse when you adjust for inflation and purchasing power.

What I am trying to understand is why you feel so economically pressed (indeed, why do we up north feel that way to). Is it simply media and propaganda? Be honest with yourself. I sway dramatically between feeling like I am on the edge (when I think about things reflexively) and feeling like I am on top of the world (when I lie to myself and practice gratitude). The actual dollar amounts suggest that household income in the US is increasing across all groups, adjusted for inflation, that house sizes are increasing, and that purchasing power (in the US) is increasing. Why do you, your family, and friends, feel differently?

Or is it that you and your family and friends are actually woke? Not in a pejorative sense, but in the sense of knowing your value and feeling that, notwithstanding that, you should have more? For example, individual productivity is up in the US (not in Canada), maybe Americans are making more, but not relative to the amount of work they do?

Or is it that, making more, even adjusted for inflation, somehow does not translate to economic and social security.

So yeah, I get that you and your wider circle feel squeezed, but I am asking why do you feel that way and why do you feel that Trump 2.0 is the solution.

 

[CoolB]

Should have stayed a Mayberry thread until the unnecessary and excessive use of insofar. I wanted to bang my head against a wall just to bring my IQ down to the level of the obvious try-to-hard op. It's only 9:39am and I'm done with the internet already today.

Let the war room rage on.

 

[UberHere]

I don’t trust them, but I’ll gladly take them over the bullshit Biden admin

 

[KnightTemplar]

There is no God(Emperor)but Trump, and Musk is His Prophet, PBUH*

*Profits Be Upon Him.

 

[SKYNET]

That stance is not so helpful. I understand what you are feeling, just not why.
What I am trying to understand is why you feel so economically pressed. Why do you, your family, and friends, feel differently?

The actual dollar amounts suggest that household income in the US is increasing across all groups, adjusted for inflation, that house sizes are increasing, and that purchasing power (in the US) is increasing.

Because this statement is false. Our income has decreased when adjusted for inflation, we had to sell off property and move into rentals and the cost of necessities has gone up two or threefold.

That statement above is totally inaccurate.

Or is it that you and your family and friends are actually woke? Not in a pejorative sense, but in the sense of knowing your value and feeling that, notwithstanding that, you should have more? For example, individual productivity is up in the US (not in Canada), maybe Americans are making more, but not relative to the amount of work they do?
Or is it that, making more, even adjusted for inflation, somehow does not translate to economic and social security.
So yeah, I get that you and your wider circle feel squeezed, but I am asking why do you feel that way and why do you feel that Trump 2.0 is the solution.

Not woke, we live in Florida, the majority down here avoid that nonsense. I don't feel Trump 2.0 is the solution

 

[Andy Capp]

Eggs are $9 where I live but don't worry, Musk is gonna save us with Indians who shit in the street.

Your eggs are expensive because of the culling of very large numbers of chickens due to avian influenza.

US poultry farms forced to eliminate 50,5 million chickens because of avian flu

More than 50,5 million birds in US poultry farms have been slaughtered because of outbreaks of avian flu among flocks in over forty states, according to the Department of Agriculture.

en.mercopress.com

"More than 50,5 million birds in US poultry farms have been slaughtered because of outbreaks of avian flu among flocks in over forty states, according to the Department of Agriculture."