Crime What did the cops do wrong today. Vol. 2

[nhbbear]

Man use some aline’s dude. Hurts my eyes reading this wall of text. I agree it’s not a convincing study, it’s probably way underreported.

sure it is. And you know best about American police over there in Europe-certainly more than someone who retired from the very profession we are discussing

 

[sleepwalk]

The problem is there's a culture of cops covering for the bad-cops... if you actually try to be a "good cop" and turn the "bad" cops in, you'll be run out of the department.

So basically there are three types of cops:

1) Bad/Criminal, cops
2) Cops that cover up for the Bad/Criminal cops
3) Good cops that are hated by their fellow officers and never get promoted.

One thing always left out from these statements of "good cops" covering for "bad cops": Bad cops don't do bad stuff in front of others all that often. The onus is on each and every officer to report wrongdoing but not to seek it out. There are specialized units dedicated to that.

So there's a fourth category: Guys just going about their day, not doing anything wrong and neither are the ones around them.

 

[So Fresh]

sure it is. And you know best about American police over there in Europe-certainly more than someone who retired from the very profession we are discussing

Yeah let’s believe the notorious corrupt cop protector and who is part of the culture/ problem

Nah I’ll go with the imperfect papers and the internet

 

[lifelessheap]

One thing always left out from these statements of "good cops" covering for "bad cops": Bad cops don't do bad stuff in front of others all that often. The onus is on each and every officer to report wrongdoing but not to seek it out. There are specialized units dedicated to that.

So there's a fourth category: Guys just going about their day, not doing anything wrong and neither are the ones around them.

And sometimes entire departments are corrupt along with the justice system.

 

[Via Heeto]

And sometimes entire departments are corrupt along with the justice system.

i saw this one yesterday. pretty crazy. this goes above and beyond typical cops being too stupid to realize they can't just demand id because they feel like it. they made shit up and there is no way they did not know they were making the charges up. and of course going to his car was even worse. everyone involved in this case needs to be in jail. and again, not sure how anyone can watch videos like this and have any faith at all in the police

 

[skysolo]

Anecdotal, but my girlfriend is a nurse, used to work in the ER and thus new a lot of cops. Many of the other nurses either dated or were/are married to cops. It's common knowledge among them cops are abusive.

But here's a less anecdotal source, studies showing the rates of domestic abuse by police officers are 3-4x the national average.


https://relevantmagazine.com/curren...ce-families-really-experience-domestic-abuse/

Here's my anecdotal source.

All cops are either corrupt, incompetent scumbags or they turn a blind eye to corruption and incompetence.

 

[lifelessheap]

Here's my anecdotal source.

All cops are either corrupt, incompetent scumbags or they turn a blind eye to corruption and incompetence.

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We don't always agree, but I'm glad we can on this issue.

 

[nhbbear]

Yeah let’s believe the notorious corrupt cop protector and who is part of the culture/ problem

Nah I’ll go with the imperfect papers and the internet

I am notorious? Nice

 

[Cajun]

I thought for sure there would be a thread on this, but if there is I missed it.

This dumbass cop thought she was turning off her camera and actually turned it on while they were evicting someone. And the cops thought they would be friendly and help lighten the load they had to move by helping themselves to some of their stuff.

1) there should not be an option to turn the camera off in almost any situation (bathroom breaks). It is just stupid that they can turn it off and on whenever they want

2) i really don't get why so many people so blindly defend cops. While many cops may perform heroic acts from time to time, MOST cops abuse their power. They are not working with their communities. They look at them as the enemy. It is "us vs. them."

Agree with number 1.... number 2 not so much..

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

I thought for sure there would be a thread on this, but if there is I missed it.

This dumbass cop thought she was turning off her camera and actually turned it on while they were evicting someone. And the cops thought they would be friendly and help lighten the load they had to move by helping themselves to some of their stuff.

1) there should not be an option to turn the camera off in almost any situation (bathroom breaks). It is just stupid that they can turn it off and on whenever they want

2) i really don't get why so many people so blindly defend cops. While many cops may perform heroic acts from time to time, MOST cops abuse their power. They are not working with their communities. They look at them as the enemy. It is "us vs. them."

It's mainly people who "think" on the same wave length as them who defend some of these cops.

I will never waiver that cops should have a much more stringent testing process, both mental and physical. These are after all the people who are given power over your lives essentially. At a moments notice they can either protect you or hail 2 dozen bullets into your frame for nothing.

The power they wield is heavy.

The praise they are bestowed when they do good are grand. The repercusions that are laid upon them when they fuck up are normally super light weight. Relatable to how people would treat an infant.

 

[woodguyatl]

Making police misconduct reports public is something some states do, and some other states don't or have restrictions. I think transparency can be beneficial in many ways but why exactly would you want to see which cops have an attendance problem or accidently discharged their firearm in the locker room? Should they also face social discipline as well as what the department hands down? The more egregious abuses of power tend to make the news quite often.

My request was for complaints made by the public against on-duty officers. Nothing more.

 

[lifelessheap]

Qualified immunity must go.

 

[650lb Sumo]

Lol. Buh bye and good luck finding meaningful employment in the future.

Firemen who set fires
Healthcare workers who knowingly harm people
Cops who break the law
Self serving politicians
Mechanics who break shit to create work
Industries that implement planned obsolescence

Professional betrayal of trust should carry a stiff penalty. Always nice to see when someone outs themselves like this.

Journalists who lie is another big one.

 

[woodguyatl]

One thing always left out from these statements of "good cops" covering for "bad cops": Bad cops don't do bad stuff in front of others all that often. The onus is on each and every officer to report wrongdoing but not to seek it out. There are specialized units dedicated to that.

So there's a fourth category: Guys just going about their day, not doing anything wrong and neither are the ones around them.

It’s not always egregious stuff, though. It’s the little stuff like signing a report saying you saw something when you were only told what happened by a fellow officer.

 

[sleepwalk]

It’s not always egregious stuff, though. It’s the little stuff like signing a report saying you saw something when you were only told what happened by a fellow officer.

In that particular instance, there's no real need to do so as "Officer woodguyatl alerted me to the presence of weapon/contraband he observed by..." would be how you articulate that. Another officer's observations are to be considered reliable in the field. They could also add their own supplemental narrative to the report.

I'm glad you brought that up. Use of force incidents (justified, unjustified, and especially ambiguous) are what usually get the airplay. Personally, I'm more concerned about things like planting evidence, extortion, or skimming from seizures. I came on during a time when "A mistake of the head can be fixed. A mistake of the heart can't."

 

[woodguyatl]

In that particular instance, there's no real need to do so as "Officer woodguyatl alerted me to the presence of weapon/contraband he observed by..." would be how you articulate that. Another officer's observations are to be considered reliable in the field. They could also add their own supplemental narrative to the report.

I'm glad you brought that up. Use of force incidents (justified, unjustified, and especially ambiguous) are what usually get the airplay. Personally, I'm more concerned about things like planting evidence, extortion, or skimming from seizures. I came on during a time when "A mistake of the head can be fixed. A mistake of the heart can't."

Skimming from seizures is ok. The 9th Circuit ruled that there is not sufficient case law determining that skimming from seizures violates the Constitution so police are protected by qualified immunity if they do so. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/insight-theft-by-police-officers-is-unconstitutional-right

 

[sleepwalk]

Skimming from seizures is ok. The 9th Circuit ruled that there is not sufficient case law determining that skimming from seizures violates the Constitution so police are protected by qualified immunity if they do so. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/insight-theft-by-police-officers-is-unconstitutional-right

Next time the alarm goes off at an unsecured restaurant, I'm making myself a sandwich before we clear then.

 

[sleepwalk]

Skimming from seizures is ok. The 9th Circuit ruled that there is not sufficient case law determining that skimming from seizures violates the Constitution so police are protected by qualified immunity if they do so. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/insight-theft-by-police-officers-is-unconstitutional-right

Yeah. I'm no hot shot big city lawyer <hooks thumbs into suspenders> but how the hell that has anything to do with qualified immunity is beyond me. I mean, I'm assuming he went the criminal route first to press charges on the officers involved. And, if the theft did occur and they cooked the evidence logs, he can certainly go after the City of Fresno and the police department. It's certainly possible that officers involved in the seizure were unaware of some flim flammery that happened after the fact, as well. But that's something that the court should hear, not shrug off.

 

[Phisher]

Cops needlessly escalated a situation with an accident victim, who'd just been rear ended by an 18 wheeler, because he asked them to keep a distance due to fear of COVID due to his underlying health issues.

 

[Topguntrophey]

^ Horrible. And the town will pay for it.