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Crime What did the cops do wrong today Megathread Vol. 6 ? (who knows, lots of cop threads)

Look. I agree that police officers need so much more defensive tactics training, especially on the ground. I mentioned in the op that I was actually asked to be a defensive tactics instructor because of my bjj background. I taught new officers as much ground work as I could in a week. I soon became the head instructor and that was the focus of the training-ground work more than striking. My reasoning was very similar to what you said-the optics are super bad. That was also why I never used my baton for anything other than to flush public toilets and open garbage can kids, but I kept it on me in case I encountered a knife suspect and I didn’t want to shoot someone. I never punched anyone in the face while I was a cop for two reasons. One is definitely optics. Punching looks bad, almost barbaric, and it’s easier to cause cuts. The second reason is tactical. You could hurt your hand and then if you have to grab a weapon, it’s useless. Even cuffing can be difficult with a hurt paw.

However, where we disagree is the legality of the force they did use. I feel based on graham v Connor that they did use appropriate force. This suspect was believed to be armed with a handgun and his hands were near his waist an awful lot. What I would have wanted to do is an rnc. I used them a shit ton my first couple of years. Then, a supervisor saw me do it and pulled me aside and told me that I wasn’t allowed to do that. In the academy, I also got yelled at for an rnc. We were doing officer survivability training -which is as realistic as they can make it. Troopers from all over the state came to the academy to be play-actors and it was a lot of fun for them.

The first scenario, an officer got ktfo’d by this one trainer and they all laughed about it. We went next and my partner said that better not happen to us. It was a simulated dui stop. The driver was arrested without issue. There were three more in the car and the back passenger kept trying to get out of the car, yelling aggressively “what the fuck are you doing to my brother!?” I tried to keep him in the car, but he kept getting out. I pulled out inert pepperspray (just water) and hoses him down. They were supposed to react realistically, but he kept coming and was laughing while he did it. He came at me and actually shot in for a takedown and I sprawled out. I then started throwing light knee strikes to his arm and thigh, yelling “common perineal” which should have made him stop, but since I wasn’t actually striking him, he kept laughing and trying to suck my leg in. Turns out, he was a former wrestler. So I got my leg free and ended up on his back, decided to take the choke, and ended it. He went to sleep and swallowed his chewing tobacco. I released the choke and I got yanked off of him by another instructor who was screaming in my face “you’re going to prison-you just killed a man! You’re an ex-cop serving time and they will line up to fuck you in the ass and eventually, kill you!” I defended my argument, stating that all other use of force techniques had failed, and there two others in the car. I cited graham v Connor and I didn’t know the case as well then as I did later in my career when I became a use of force expert. But I unknowingly argued the right points about being outnumbered and other tactics failing. I got called into the captains office and I made my arguments to him and he agreed with me, so I didn’t get into trouble. However, for the rest of the week, anytime it was my turn, the trainers would call out “it’s him” and I would get destroyed by paintballs-as they specially set up ambushes for me to make me pay for embarrassing their dude. We also found out that he, and others, had been drinking and celebrated beating cadet’s asses at night when they drank more in the dorm rooms.

Anyway, as my story illustrates, all other techniques failed. Lesser forms of control failed. Taser failed. Punches to the face failed. Joint lock failed. Horsepower failed. Again, he was possibly armed, which would make this a fight to the death.

The officer could have legally, used a choke to end it, but the uproar would be worse imo. And if you have never tried to get someone handcuffed, it is a lot tougher than most realize. I am a decent sized guy. In the academy, I was 215, and I have always been really strong. We did a handcuffing drill where they put four officers on the guy they were trying to handcuff. They absolutely could not get me cuffed. They had to bring in six and they had to beat the shit out of me before they got me handcuffed.

- Knee strikers aimed possible at the head are too much for me. Even if he hit the shoulders, could give amunitition to the anti-cop public.

They blurred his face, because he is ugly, and thats a face only a mother would love!
 
First one. Dunno. Not really gonna say much. Looks there was intent and reason but potentially an over zealous beating of a clear criminal. Dunno.

Second. Mad
Imagine refusing to accuse someone who murdered your partner and loved one in front of your eyes simply because it'd go against your political views. Is it any different from a mother seeing her daughter stoned to death for infidelity and refusing to decry it because of religious beliefs? It is a religion after all.

The guy ran up to her and spit in her face after just knifing her boyfriend to death in the streets and she still f feels like she owes him anonymity. They really are a suicide cult.
 
News media such a cbs and msn are actually blurring the face of the teenage murder suspect in all video and pictures. Oh, did I mention he is not a juvenile teenager, but is actually 18 years old? Why in the fuck would they blur the photos of a murder suspect? Jesus Christ, the dude’s face is on surveillance camera and all over social media.

Look at this shit!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...-activist-ryan-carson-sources-say/ar-AA1hK9lH
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/100523DOWLING3aGPM.jpg
 
The guy ran up to her and spit in her face after just knifing her boyfriend to death in the streets and she still f feels like she owes him anonymity. They really are a suicide cult.


Religious suicide cult. Complete with dogma, martyrs and a Complete loathing of their own very being. Dictated to them by their own "leaders". The people they were supposed to hate tried helping. Nothing. They'd prefer to die on their own sword.

FUCK THEM
 
- Knee strikers aimed possible at the head are too much for me. Even if he hit the shoulders, could give amunitition to the anti-cop public.

They blurred his face, because he is ugly, and thats a face only a mother would love!

I didn’t think of that-maybe they blurred it because the damage was simply too much to air. Oh dear god, he had to swollen eyes!!! Our viewers can’t take that! But cbs will post his mug shot
 
The GF didn’t want to give a description of the guy that just murdered her BF in the streets?

Incredible. Leftism is a suicide cult.

And friends claim he wouldn’t want his killer prosecuted. Good thing the state has the ultimate say when it’s a felony. The victim, or their family has absolutely no say in whether to charge a suspect with a violent felony. They can give a victim impact statement at sentencing. However, if this cunt and her friends argue that this dangerous piece of shit be given probation or some other lenient sentence, I really hope she is the next to be victimized. They care more about their cultist ideals then they do about future innocent victims. Man, I really hope she loves her ptsd from witnessing this and it wakes her up to how dangerous and cuck-like the beliefs are. I can’t believe she didn’t offer to wash his feet with her bf’s blood as it pumped out of his chest.
 
Religious suicide cult. Complete with dogma, martyrs and a Complete loathing of their own very being. Dictated to them by their own "leaders". The people they were supposed to hate tried helping. Nothing. They'd prefer to die on their own sword.

FUCK THEM

Exactly. Fuck these turds and their woke cultist beliefs. I am so glad there was video, the suspect’s gf calling his name, and some leads to figure out who the suspect was. Otherwise, this stupid acab antifa cunt would have been able to stonewall the police until this fucking turd killed someone else for daring to watch him violently destroy other people’s property, fully displaying his shitbag entitlement. God, I fucking hate these people and their enabling of violent criminals because of their race. Guarantee, if it had been a white male, she would have used her idedic memory to draw and perfect image of him
 
The byecep antifa/blm guy that tried to shoot Kyle Rittenhouse and got his bicep blown off just got run over by a black guy driving without a license last week who ran over him and drove off. Obviously not good when anybody gets victimized, but surely we can all appreciate the irony of these fools spending all their time saying criminals are unfairly maligned victims of racism, only to get shot, stabbed, carjacked, run over and robbed by the people they've trying to keep on the street.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...le-rittenhouse-got-run-over-by-a-car-n2628818
 
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we need to bring back law and order!! vote thesedamn democrats out of office or we are all doomed. oh wait we are doomed anyway. this concludes my post in this shit thread.
 
The byecep antifa/blm guy that tried to shoot Kyle Rittenhouse and got his bicep blown off just got run over by a black guy driving without a license last week who ran over him and drove off. Obviously not good when anybody gets victimized, but surely we can all appreciate the irony of these fools spending all their time saying criminals are unfairly maligned victims of racism, only to get shot, stabbed, carjacked, run over and robbed by the people they've trying to keep on the street.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...le-rittenhouse-got-run-over-by-a-car-n2628818
Damn lol. Imagine getting shot while rioting with BLM and then later having a black guy run you down and not even slow down.
 
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