What are sups made of ?

[Trabaho]

Are they worth it ?

I currently take creatine often, whey occasionaly, vitamin D daily, multi vitamin thing stuff pill, aminos.

Vitamin D - will keep it as I am low in it and requested by doctor

Whey - I think this is natural and made from the remains of cheese production. So real food protein. Like any other food item take it when I feel like it. Unsweetened and no flavor.

Vitamin + - left over from my hair surgery, vitamins and other stuff. I guess why not ? Maybe it helps performance

Aminos - taste really good. 1 scoop 20 g. Wtf is this made from ? Are these lab made aminos ? Does my body actually store them as muscles ? I take them randomly but most days. Often first thing in the morning.

Are vitamin sups lab made ? Do they work the same as natural sources ?

 

[NoSmilez]

Get rid of the aminos. You don't really need it unless you don't eat meat or protein. The rest are fine. Go out in the sun more often.

 

[GSP_37]

Good thread.

I once read or heard some supplement is made from human hair swept up at the barber shop. Gross.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

 

[Trabaho]

Get rid of the aminos. You don't really need it unless you don't eat meat or protein. The rest are fine.

I don't need it. But is it extra aminos ? They are easy to drink.

Go out in the sun more often.

Past 3 days been sunny, lovely weather. I stayed in and honed my dota skills. Got some rays trough the window. Sunlight is like a super suplement. Winter is close to over. Gonna catch all the rays when I'm back in the south in the near future. Outdoors excercise is the great.

 

[wufabufa]

I don't need it. But is it extra aminos ? They are easy to drink.

Pointless if you're eating complete sources of protein in good quantity. By pointless I mean, the amount of money you spend on them and time you spend drinking them are not worth it since there's a 0.01% chance you notice any real benefit from them. 2g of real food protein per kg of body weight and you'll have all the EAAs and BCAAs your body can handle and then some. Spend that extra money on good meat and the time saved getting better/more sleep.

 

[Trabaho]

Pointless if you're eating complete sources of protein in good quantity. By pointless I mean, the amount of money you spend on them and time you spend drinking them are not worth it since there's a 0.01% chance you notice any real benefit from them. 2g of real food protein per kg of body weight and you'll have all the EAAs and BCAAs your body can handle and then some.

They are cheap. 20 g of protein is more than a 0.01% difference. They are quick to drink. They are also low calorie. Meat has fat, milk got fat and carbs.
Real food is always better though.

 

[Trabaho]

Flintstones vitamin candy ?

 

[NoSmilez]

I don't need it. But is it extra aminos ? They are easy to drink.


Past 3 days been sunny, lovely weather. I stayed in and honed my dota skills. Got some rays trough the window. Sunlight is like a super suplement. Winter is close to over. Gonna catch all the rays when I'm back in the south in the near future. Outdoors excercise is the great.

You are wasting money on the aminos. It's easy to drink but you probably don't need more if you eat meat. Spend the money on PEDs or something…..

 

[Trabaho]

You are wasting money on the aminos. It's easy to drink but you probably don't need more if you eat meat. Spend the money on PEDs or something…..

They're quiet cheap. An easy jucie glass of 20 g protein. I feel like +20 protein without extra calories is good. Just it isn't fully natural. I don't wanna eat 2 pounds of meat a day. I don't count calories and don't know how much protein I eat. I would guess around 200 g. Or 140- 240 something like that. Depending on the day.

Edit : doing some calculations today I ate about 200 g of protein and usually I eat more. So I probably average a bit over 200. Rarely much more or much less. I don't count anything though.

 

[wufabufa]

They are cheap. 20 g of protein is more than a 0.01% difference. They are quick to drink. They are also low calorie. Meat has fat, milk got fat and carbs.
Real food is always better though.

post the nutrition label/packaging on your "aminos" supplement. Something doesn't seem like it's adding up here.

 

[Trabaho]

post the nutrition label/packaging on your "aminos" supplement. Something doesn't seem like it's adding up here.

I'll post it tomorrow. Remind me.

 

[Renard]

There are synthetic and natural forms for vitamins. They have different names. For example real B12 is methylcobalamin and fake B12 is cyanocobalamin (bound to a cyanide molecule lol, harder on the kidneys). Most cheap vitamins and vitamins you can find at the pharmacy have the synthetic version, so not worth buying.

 

[Trabaho]

post the nutrition label/packaging on your "aminos" supplement. Something doesn't seem like it's adding up here.

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Ok it is actualy 1.5 euro / dollar per serving. So not cheap but not awfuly expensive.

What´s the difference between aminos and whey ? Wehy is protein which are aminos ?

And I´m over the taste, by now my brain registers that it´s a fake taste.

 

[wufabufa]

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Ok it is actualy 1.5 euro / dollar per serving. So not cheap but not awfuly expensive.

What´s the difference between aminos and whey ? Wehy is protein which are aminos ?

And I´m over the taste, by now my brain registers that it´s a fake taste.

Looks like a waste of money to me. EAAs might absorbed quicker but they don't have the lasting effect of a whole protein source. Unless you're going on crazy extended fasts and want muscle protein synthesis to kick in immediately when you break your fast, then you're better off eating real food. Your body is pretty damn efficient at absorbing protein. There are recent studies showing that even huge bolus amounts like 100g per serving are assimilated fully over the course of hours and hours.

Supplements are there to fill in the gaps from the nutrition you don't get from whole foods, therefore if you're eating 200g per day in protein like you say you are, the EAAs are wasted time and money. More protein isn't always better and there certainly is a point of diminishing returns. Most people that over consume protein on purpose are doing so to suppress their appetite, or to treat a specific medical condition.

 

[Trabaho]

Looks like a waste of money to me. EAAs might absorbed quicker but they don't have the lasting effect of a whole protein source. Unless you're going on crazy extended fasts and want muscle protein synthesis to kick in immediately when you break your fast, then you're better off eating real food. Your body is pretty damn efficient at absorbing protein. There are recent studies showing that even huge bolus amounts like 100g per serving are assimilated fully over the course of hours and hours.

Supplements are there to fill in the gaps from the nutrition you don't get from whole foods, therefore if you're eating 200g per day in protein like you say you are, the EAAs are wasted time and money. More protein isn't always better and there certainly is a point of diminishing returns. Most people that over consume protein on purpose are doing so to suppress their appetite, or to treat a specific medical condition.

I weigh 116 kg, high body fat, 200 g of protein seems good. Extra carbs and rice is a waste.

Are there any drawback to drinking whey and aminos ? I vote for fake sugars and taste. And it not being the whole source as in it´s natural state for the aminos ? The whey is just extracted from Milk, just like butter.

Also fruit, water and veggies take up a lot of digestion space. Protein drinks go down easy.

 

[wufabufa]

I weigh 116 kg, high body fat, 200 g of protein seems good. Extra carbs and rice is a waste.

Are there any drawback to drinking whey and aminos ? I vote for fake sugars and taste. And it not being the whole source as in it´s natural state for the aminos ? The whey is just extracted from Milk, just like butter.

Also fruit, water and veggies take up a lot of digestion space. Protein drinks go down easy.

It shouldn't be harmful or a draw back, just not super effective. If you find the whey convenient and it helps you hit your macros then keep taking it. The aminos just aren't worth it.

 

[Trabaho]

It shouldn't be harmful or a draw back, just not super effective. If you find the whey convenient and it helps you hit your macros then keep taking it. The aminos just aren't worth it.

hitting macros is lame. Are you actually counting macros on a daily basis ?

 

[wufabufa]

hitting macros is lame. Are you actually counting macros on a daily basis ?

Not as lame as failing to achieve your goals.

 

[NoSmilez]

hitting macros is lame. Are you actually counting macros on a daily basis ?

You don't really have to count. You just know after a while. You know you need to eat how many grams per day. You know how much protein you get from shakes, bars or regular meals that you eat. Even your snacks such as nuts have protein.

You aren't going to shrivel if you go under. You just got to do it for a week then you figure what 30-50 grams of protein looks like.