Weinstein: Fall of an Empire

[ralphc1]

You know, that's probably the price we're all going to have to pay for this shit, now that producers won't be "cutting deals" with promising young actresses anymore.

A lot less J-Law's, and a lot more Tilda Swinton's on the horizon.

That would be pure hell.

 

[PaleMoonlight]

I dont feel sorry for many of these actresses who are now jumping up saying harvey did this, especially jennifer lawrence and those other sexual ones who were smiling enjoying life and hugging and praising harvey until this news broke, people are finding videos of them hugging and kissing him and thanking him, yet now they say he raped them? Most of them willing sucked him off for roles. I remember taking an acting class and a casting agent came in to watch our showcase in hollywood and we had this pretty midwestern naive girl in class, i warned her that the casting agent might try something on her, she didnt seem all that worried, a week later i see her making out with him after class in his fancy car. A lot of these actresses willingly had sex with these big wigs, they just dont want to look like low moral whores now so they are claiming victim.

Also why are they still not naming others? Lets get rid of these s now in hollywood you supposed brave women lol, full of shit name the names now why protect these sickos? And young people follow these celebs and worship them saying they are so compassinate, thats all pr they are actors and can fake compassion to fool gullible people.

These chicks are now claiming rape, maybe they didnt find him attractive but they willingly slept with him for roles and to get ahead. And cared more about their career and money, cowards the only ones i respect are those who stepped up and got black balled and lost their jobs in hollywood those women were brave.

Its disgusting how they are trying to save face, so they dont look like hypocrites on their high horse, remember their war in women commercial yet they were okay with letting harvey sex them and not give names, yet claim be brave? Brave you guys let these pervs get away with it and harvey weinstein supported feminist causes and helped donate to that war on women campaign that bashed the republicans saying they didnt care about women lol this is virtue signlaing delfection attack those to deflect any attention toward you while you do what you claim they do.

What's the reason Corey Feldman won't mention names if he already talked about philia in Hollywood beforehand. Do these guys still somewhat have control of his income?

BTW, I saw him at Universal Horror Nights about 4 years ago. Seemed like a cool dude, he had 4 chicks with him, 2 on each side.

 

[ralphc1]

You are talking about whores who fuck for power, this story is about sexual assault, you understand the difference right? Weinstein is now being investigated on two continents because there are five women in the U.K. who claim he assaulted them. There is also a problem with philia in Hollywood and the music industries, which was the point of the Shirley Temple post. Arthur Freed at Metro-Goldwyn pulled his dick out to an 11 year old girl and there is a long list of these occurrences. These people are sick.

The fact that you want to make this out to be a story about whore actresses is just bizarre to me. Harvey Weinstein is obviously a sexual predator and he may go to prison over it, and rightfully so, but he is not alone, not by a long shot.

It seems you're the one who doesn't understand. These women stayed silent for years and had even more contact with Weinstein after they were "raped". There are photos and video clips of many of them interacting with him. I assume that these women knew exactly what they were doing. Whether they enjoyed it or not they did it.

It reminds me of the woman cashing a check. When told it was no good she says "Oh my God, I've been raped".

 

[TidWell]

What's the reason Corey Feldman won't mention names if he already talked about philia in Hollywood beforehand. Do these guys still somewhat have control of his income?

BTW, I saw him at Universal Horror Nights about 4 years ago. Seemed like a cool dude, he had 4 chicks with him, 2 on each side.

Its libel that they will sue him for, he reported it to the police years ago, but they just looked into it and didn't find anything.

These Hollywood guys are rich and powerful, government officials can be paid off easy and they still have to prove things in a court of law, if Feldman slanders a big powerful guy he will get ruined since its hard to prove you need substantial evidence.

its why this model had to get wire tapped to catch weinstein on tape begging her to go to his room with him.

Whats weird is Barbara Walters shamed him for his allegations, of trying to damaging an entire industry, very strange because the media allows people to bash the catholic church and say all priests are s and nobody gets mad, yet Walters got all mad saying what Feldman was doing was wrong he would destroy an industry come on she just revealed the truth about Hollywoods BS. its sickening.

 

[MusterX]

I'm sure he did harass a few...but all these woman just "going to see him alone at his hotel room"? Lol...they were going up there to suck his cock for movie roles..only years later since one girl comes out, they all will even though they willingly fucked him or sucked his dick

No, its not "one girl came out years later."

Weinstein was paying off women for decades under the table, settling out of court. This is not about a few asses he grabbed, this is likely dozens of women and sexual misconduct all the way up to actual rape spanning decades.

 

[MusterX]

It seems you're the one who doesn't understand. These women stayed silent for years and had even more contact with Weinstein after they were "raped". There are photos and video clips of many of them interacting with him. I assume that these women knew exactly what they were doing. Whether they enjoyed it or not they did it.

It reminds me of the woman cashing a check. When told it was no good she says "Oh my God, I've been raped".

He was settling out of court with women for decades. The guy is a sexual deviant and a rapist. This is how his brother has had him fired from the company they created but his employment contract says they can't unless there is fraud and there was no fraud, he simply didn't tell them that he was settling out of court with all these women, and they didn't ask.

 

[PaleMoonlight]

Its libel that they will sue him for, he reported it to the police years ago, but they just looked into it and didn't find anything.

These Hollywood guys are rich and powerful, government officials can be paid off easy and they still have to prove things in a court of law, if Feldman slanders a big powerful guy he will get ruined since its hard to prove you need substantial evidence.

its why this model had to get wire tapped to catch weinstein on tape begging her to go to his room with him.

Whats weird is Barbara Walters shamed him for his allegations, of trying to damaging an entire industry, very strange because the media allows people to bash the catholic church and say all priests are s and nobody gets mad, yet Walters got all mad saying what Feldman was doing was wrong he would destroy an industry come on she just revealed the truth about Hollywoods BS. its sickening.

Thanks for the info. Makes a lot of sense. Pretty much money talks even in the good ol US of A.

 

[TidWell]

He was settling out of court with women for decades. The guy is a sexual deviant and a rapist. This is how his brother has had him fired from the company they created but his employment contract says they can't unless there is fraud and there was no fraud, he simply didn't tell them that he was settling out of court with all these women, and they didn't ask.

He was basically a PIMP and had so many hoes in the game, its shocked he basically bedded and had his way with half of the hollywod hotties working today, but according to Courtney Love he only slept with non Jewish women if you were Jewish he wouldn't touch you, I wonder why he didn't want to sleep with Jewish women strange.



Back in 2001, the New York Daily News reported that the Hole singer ranted about Weinstein during a charity performance at New York City’s Russian Tea Room, joking that he wouldn’t have sex with her: “because I’m not a shiksa”. (‘Shiksa’ is a term for a non-Jewish woman.)


http://www.nme.com/news/film/footag...ve-warning-harvey-weinstein-back-2005-2150248

 

[TidWell]

Screenwriter Scott Rosenberg Recalls His Time With Harvey Weinstein at Miramax: ‘Everyone F*cking Knew’


http://www.vulture.com/2017/10/writ...ource=yh&utm_medium=f1&utm_campaign=feed-full

 

[MusterX]

He was basically a PIMP and had so many hoes in the game, its shocked he basically bedded and had his way with half of the hollywod hotties working today, but according to Courtney Love he only slept with non Jewish women if you were Jewish he wouldn't touch you, I wonder why he didn't want to sleep with Jewish women strange.



Back in 2001, the New York Daily News reported that the Hole singer ranted about Weinstein during a charity performance at New York City’s Russian Tea Room, joking that he wouldn’t have sex with her: “because I’m not a shiksa”. (‘Shiksa’ is a term for a non-Jewish woman.)


http://www.nme.com/news/film/footag...ve-warning-harvey-weinstein-back-2005-2150248

You made me think of this which would have been on T.V. sometime in the mid-90's around 20 years ago. Apparently this "shiksa" thing is real enough that Seinfeld was joking about it.

 

[lalaland]

It seems you're the one who doesn't understand. These women stayed silent for years and had even more contact with Weinstein after they were "raped". There are photos and video clips of many of them interacting with him. I assume that these women knew exactly what they were doing. Whether they enjoyed it or not they did it.

It reminds me of the woman cashing a check. When told it was no good she says "Oh my God, I've been raped".

You clearly haven't been following this story. The vast majority of the women who have come forward tell tales of rejecting sexual advances from Weinstein. Only a couple (McGowan, Argento) have claimed rape. All the others say he tried to grope them or tried to kiss them or pulled it out and started beating the meat in front of them and they left. I'm sure many actresses have slept with HW or others like him to get ahead but they aren't the ones speaking out.

 

[Fonx]

Ironic thing is there is probably someone writing a movie script about all this right now.

 

[Bob Gray]

So why did these women wait years to report it?

It's common for women to pretend to like a man to get him to do something they want. Actresses do sex scenes in movies for the money they can make. Weinstein was just another sex scene to get the access they want to roles.

Hugh Hefner's girlfriends weren't with him because they liked him. It was the access he could provide to the rich and famous.

Yes, men use women and women use men. Prostitution is the oldest profession.

I'm only going to reply to the first line since everything else has nothing to do with what I said.

While I understand the skepticism when so much time has passed, I completely understand not coming forward in this case. While being rich and famous alone can make it an uphill battle, Weinstein has an incredible amount of clout and power in the industry. I have little doubt he'd have no problem making a could phone calls and ensuring that an actress suddenly finds herself being shut out of the industry.

Did you listen to the audio recording? It's pretty unnerving. It's not what he does or says, it's the context of what's happening. She doesn't want to be with him and doesn't want to go in his room, but she's scared to actually say no. He knows this and keeps at her, dropping hints about how famous he is, etc. Hes using his power to chip away at her defenses.

I mean, I've had gay dudes grab my ass, try to pants me and even had one wave his dick at me. But I never truly felt powerless. That's ultimately the biggest difference between Harvey Weinstein grabbing your ass and some schmuck in a bar groping you.

 

[therealdope]

Well, add James Tomback to the list:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...al-harassment-allegations-20171018-story.html

I'm impressed that these women are stepping forward and not just saying #metoo, but they're naming names.

 

[Gandzooka]

Its libel that they will sue him for, he reported it to the police years ago, but they just looked into it and didn't find anything.

These Hollywood guys are rich and powerful, government officials can be paid off easy and they still have to prove things in a court of law, if Feldman slanders a big powerful guy he will get ruined since its hard to prove you need substantial evidence.

This is the thing that many don't seem to realize. The ones who did these things have power and wealth and can screw accusers in litigation.

It is also the reason many women worked with Weinstein after what he did, because he had power to destroy their careers and send hordes of lawyers after them making their life hell.

 

[therealdope]

This is the thing that many don't seem to realize. The ones who did these things have power and wealth and can screw accusers in litigation.

It is also the reason many women worked with Weinstein after what he did, because he had power to destroy their careers and send hordes of lawyers after them making their life hell.

People judge too easily. I'm sure most people see something going on in their line work but wouldn't say something that get them black-balled from their line of work FOREVER.

Guys in finance (funds mgrs, VCs, Hedgies, retail, institutional deal guys, M&A) related work often partake in debauchery as soon as they hit $200,000/yr income. They act like they are pulling $2m a year. Girlfriends on the side and hookers with no fucks given.

Speaking out without even naming names can screw you permanently. The joke is that I highly doubt this is a recent thing. Sounds like this has been the case for decades and these recent creeps just viewed this as perk of becoming successful in this industry.

 

[Shael]

No one man should have all that power.

 

[ralphc1]

This is the thing that many don't seem to realize. The ones who did these things have power and wealth and can screw accusers in litigation.

It is also the reason many women worked with Weinstein after what he did, because he had power to destroy their careers and send hordes of lawyers after them making their life hell.

You are proving my point that these women were willing to put up with the harassment to get the job. They took money and signed contracts to stay silent about it. They didn't have to be actresses. They are higher paid examples of women working in the porn industry or on the streets.

 

[DM1982]

I'm only going to reply to the first line since everything else has nothing to do with what I said.

While I understand the skepticism when so much time has passed, I completely understand not coming forward in this case. While being rich and famous alone can make it an uphill battle, Weinstein has an incredible amount of clout and power in the industry. I have little doubt he'd have no problem making a could phone calls and ensuring that an actress suddenly finds herself being shut out of the industry.

Did you listen to the audio recording? It's pretty unnerving. It's not what he does or says, it's the context of what's happening. She doesn't want to be with him and doesn't want to go in his room, but she's scared to actually say no. He knows this and keeps at her, dropping hints about how famous he is, etc. Hes using his power to chip away at her defenses.

I mean, I've had gay dudes grab my ass, try to pants me and even had one wave his dick at me. But I never truly felt powerless. That's ultimately the biggest difference between Harvey Weinstein grabbing your ass and some schmuck in a bar groping you.

He did everything but physically restrain her.

So she had every opportunity to leave the vicinity.

And why was she scared to leave him? Cos he's a ruthless sex trafficker that threatens women with violence?

No.

Cos she was afraid she wouldn't get whatever opportunity in the business Harvey had on offer for her should she maintain their 'friendship'.

You're not going to convince intelligent, rational adults that these women are truly victims. Noone is forcing them to go to Hollywood to become an actress or whatever. Are Harvey's methods sleazy? Heck, yes, but he has done nothing illegal.

Still waiting for any actual charges to be brought against Weinstein.

 

[Merlotte's]

Wait so we're supposed to stop the second a woman says no? What if I only speak Spanish? This is all so confused.