Weidman never proved he's better than Silva.

StewDogg11 said:
Just like Silva scraped by Maia right?
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58-51 was the significant strikes differential in Weidman vs Maia

61-10 in Silva vs Maia.

Get a clue.

jko1355 said:
Absolutely... the Silva that beat Okami or Forrest dismantles Weidman pretty easily. Weidman was literally in the right place at the right time... he scraped by Maia... beat an overhyped mark Munoz to get his shot.
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Mark Muñoz also beat Maia btw. I dont know if he was overhyped but he was no slouch. Shortly after Maia completely outclassed Jon Fitch in his own game.
 
Ah, this takes me back. This was one of the biggest meltdowns on Sherdog. We got to see people go through the stages of grief in real time. The pbb thread was legendary. Hope that was archived.
 
I think Weidman should have be Anderson's final MMA fight instead of Sakurai. Now I will never know who the better fighter is and will never be sure if I can say that Weidman is still my boy.
 
You can call it careless, showboating, underestimating etc. but this was strategy.

We seen it in a lot of Silva's fights. He was primarily a counter striker (and one of the best) but a counter striker needs an aggressive opponent. When Silva would get a tentative or patient opponent he would behave like this to entice them to attack more and open themselves up. It is a strategy that worked well for him many times. Don't discredit Chris because it didn't work on him. Chris was prepare for it and made him pay.
 
pankrat said:
58-51 was the significant strikes differential in Weidman vs Maia

61-10 in Silva vs Maia.

Get a clue.



Mark Muñoz also beat Maia btw. I dont know if he was overhyped but he was no slouch. Shortly after Maia completely outclassed Jon Fitch in his own game.
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Silva also did next to nothing but cruise/scrape by in that fight. Landing 61 strikes over 25 minutes in a purely standup fight is embarrassing. Get a clue. Weidman also took the Maia fight on 11 days notice and still clearly won. Again, get a clue.
 
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StewDogg11 said:
Silva also did next to nothing but cruise/scrape by in that fight. Landing 61 strikes over 25 minutes in a purely standup fight is embarrassing. Get a clue. Weidman also took the Maia fight on 11 days notice and still clearly won. Again, get a clue.
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Maybe you just dont understand what scrapping by means? Is normal
 
pankrat said:
Maybe you just dont understand what scrapping by means? Is normal
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Scrapping? Like scrapping for metal? I guess you don’t understand fighting a top ranked fighter on 11 days notice either.
 
StewDogg11 said:
The first picture dipshit. The one that’s supposed to show him in peak physical form pre-USADA but it’s actually from only two years ago which ruins the entire point it was trying to make. Jesus you’re more mentally challenged than I thought.
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I know Weidman isn’t Jim Carrey hahahaha why do you keep ignoring the point of the picture? The specifics of the picture are irrelevant, you’re completely ignoring the caption, which is the part that matters.

Why do you keep ignoring the point of the picture? Speak on it, I’d like to hear your analysis of Weidman’s career pre-June 2015 vs. post-June 2015. Enlighten me with your expert analysis on your boy.
 
People forget how good Weidman was in his prime. Great grappling and striking plus an iron chin. He ate some huge shots during his title run
 
Chalky White said:
I know Weidman isn’t Jim Carrey hahahaha why do you keep ignoring the point of the picture? The specifics of the picture are irrelevant, you’re completely ignoring the caption, which is the part that matters.

Why do you keep ignoring the point of the picture? Speak on it, I’d like to hear your analysis of Weidman’s career pre-June 2015 vs. post-June 2015. Enlighten me with your expert analysis on your boy.
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Lmao because the picture titled “pre-USADA” isn’t in fact pre-USADA because it’s from 2021 dipshit. How are you this dumb?
 
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pankrat said:
58-51 was the significant strikes differential in Weidman vs Maia

61-10 in Silva vs Maia.

Get a clue.



Mark Muñoz also beat Maia btw. I dont know if he was overhyped but he was no slouch. Shortly after Maia completely outclassed Jon Fitch in his own game.
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I'm actually a fan of Maia. I think he should have been at ww his whole career. At ww he seemed to be able to get the takedown more often.
 
TempleoftheDog said:
When you are 2-0 against somebody that generally means you ARE better than them. Losing once is one thing. Losing twice is something else. There was nothing lucky about how Weidman performed in those fights.

But that doesn’t mean you can beat everybody that fighter beat. Those are different things and pure mmath.

So yes, Weidman proved he was better than Silva. He dominated pretty much every second of both fights. Silva wasn’t going to win the rematch if his leg didn’t break. We all know that.

And beating a GOAT doesn’t make you the GOAT either. But getting popped for peds means you aren’t the GOAT anyway.
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Hallman > Hughes confirmed.
 
Oris79 said:
Silva was past his prime in their first fight.
Silva lost the first fight due to showboating and not taking the fight seriously.
Silva lost the second fight due to a freak leg kick.

These three factors make Weidman's wins against Silva dubious at best.
I still contend that a focused, prime Silva circa 2010 destroys Weidman.

Love,
Oris79
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He knocked him and crippled him. Plenty of proof.
 
Oris79 said:
Silva was past his prime in their first fight.
Silva lost the first fight due to showboating and not taking the fight seriously.
Silva lost the second fight due to a freak leg kick.

These three factors make Weidman's wins against Silva dubious at best.
I still contend that a focused, prime Silva circa 2010 destroys Weidman.

Love,
Oris79
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People are STILL butthurt about this???
 
jko1355 said:
I'm actually a fan of Maia. I think he should have been at ww his whole career. At ww he seemed to be able to get the takedown more often.
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Maybe, he barely cut weight at 185

But to be fair he struggled to take down some of the hardest guys to take down at 185 as Muñoz or Weidman, the same way he struggled vs the guys with best TDD at 170 as Usman, Woodley or Belal.
 
Oris79 said:
Silva was past his prime in their first fight.
Silva lost the first fight due to showboating and not taking the fight seriously.
Silva lost the second fight due to a freak leg kick.

These three factors make Weidman's wins against Silva dubious at best.
I still contend that a focused, prime Silva circa 2010 destroys Weidman.

Love,
Oris79
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Silva never proved he was better than Travis "Michael Jordan of BJJ" Lutter. It was well known he had an infamously bad weight cut and was basically carried to the scales. Still didn't stop him dominating the first round against Silva.

Who knows how a healthy weight cut Lutter would have done.
 
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