Yes they probably would. Where do you live? If you live in the middle of a scorching desert for example I would expect your water to be dear.How much do the British public pay in service a d delivery fees. It's about half of my my bill even though my water is managed by a public utility.
I expect a private company would charge even higher fees?
I live on the Atlantic coast in America by the Chesapeake Bay. I pay about $40 dollars in service and delivery fees before I even pay a dollar for usage.Yes they probably would. Where do you live? If you live in the middle of a scorching desert for example I would expect your water to be dear.
I don't have an old bill to check. When the next one comes I'll post again. But here are some general figures for England and Wales.I live on the Atlantic coast in America by the Chesapeake Bay. I pay about $40 dollars in service and delivery fees before I even pay a dollar for usage.
Is that what you pay for infrastructure in the UK?
Not sure about your last point. I haven't looked if service and delivery fees are higher in a desert or not. Wouldn't it depend on the age of pipes, maintenance and the water company's debt?
According to Water UK, the average household water bill in England and Wales is around £448 a year.
However, millions are set to pay less for water from April 2024. Water regulator Ofwat confirmed that a majority of water suppliers will be forced to return money to customers due to underperformance.
When it comes down to paying for water usage, water companies calculate your bills in two ways:
Fixed water rates: You pay a set amount for your domestic water and sewage service (which can either be included or billed separately). This is also known as ‘rateable billing’ when bills are based on the size of your home, where you live, and the local amenities.
Water meter: This way, you only pay for the units of water you use. Your domestic water readings are taken from a water meter and you are sent a bill for the amount you have used since your previous bill.
The average £448 water bill typically includes £215 for water costs and £233 for sewerage. This is the cost of maintaining and getting rid of sewage.
On a national average, residential customers pay around $54 per month for water and sewer services combined.
Economists and a public policy expert at the University of Minnesota who looked into block pricing for water in the nation’s largest urban areas, including 11 Western cities, discovered a pattern they conclude is neither sustainable nor just: Many of the driest cities have the cheapest [sic] water prices. What’s more, for households across the West, the average price of water goes down as use goes up.
Like how this is a privilege instead of a right2) Huge profits sucked out of the public for the privilege of drinking, washing and using the toilet
Exactly. The only privatised industry in the UK that has been a relative success is the telecoms industry. That's because of the competition that BT faced from mobile service providers. Any other nationalised industry that got privatised got worse for consumers.Water, Energy and Rail.The idea of privatisation is competition.
What competition has Thames Water actually faced, though?
It's completely pointless.
There's an interesting series on Netflix called "The Toys That Made Us"...and a good YouTube channeld called "Company Man." Watching the first series of the toy one, it covered lots of giant toy lines from the 80's. He-Man, G.I. Joe, Transformers...and went into a lot of what went wrong. First of all those companies were MASSIVE and hade global influence. But the thing that stuck out to me the most was the inability of the executives to anticipate market changes. Kinda like what Blockbuster did. They just thought theyd never fail, and stopped caring what kids actually thought, figuring they could tell them what they wanted. They also saturated their own markets. It's really bonehead stuff that makes you wonder what these people were thinking. Company Man reveals the same thing about all sorts of chains that failed, like how giant department store chains over-expanded, and then when they couldnt move their out-dated products they refused to liquidate them and just tried to change the looks of the stores while still selling 10 year-old junk.
It's all really fascinating how these corporations try to just get as big as possible, rake in as much profit as possible, lost touch with actual consumers, and inevitably collapse under some CEO who thinks trying to force people to buy worse sh*t is a great idea. Hell that's going on with the WWE right this second. Just like that one d*ckhead CEO whose practices eventually collapsed GE, Jack Welch.
Your last sentence is highly relevant. Shareholders in British water companies have been raking in record dividends but virtually no money has been spent on infrastructure maintenance and we instead illegally pump our sewage into rivers and seas. A lot of these shareholders are foreign venture capitalists.I live on the Atlantic coast in America by the Chesapeake Bay. I pay about $40 dollars in service and delivery fees before I even pay a dollar for usage.
Is that what you pay for infrastructure in the UK?
Not sure about your last point. I haven't looked if service and delivery fees are higher in a desert or not. Wouldn't it depend on the age of pipes, maintenance and the water company's debt?
They also tend to either get exported, where possible, or end up foreign-owned, where you can't physically relocate the thing. If you can't move an industry to the Third World you can also move the Third World to the industry, but we're getting close to the edge of the Overton Window there. Examples:Exactly. The only privatised industry in the UK that has been a relative success is the telecoms industry. That's because of the competition that BT faced from mobile service providers. Any other nationalised industry that got privatised got worse for consumers.Water, Energy and Rail.
Yes. They tend to be quiet when real life examples show their ideology to be asinine.
- They tried to privatise or mail service!Well, I'm not surprised: Every single privatisation done here in Spain was a MAJOR failure, I can only imagine the results being the same everywhere else in Europe... However, you can't say this, cause they will label you a commie.
Do people in the UK not have access to water or something? I've never had that issue during my many trips there over the years.
Although i do not live in the UK, I can relate to some of the anger.Do people in the UK not have access to water or something? I've never had that issue during my many trips there over the years.
One would assume that would be disallowed as a matter of national security. Stupefying that it isn't.To let a person a person/company/board own your water supply, especially one from a different nation is to be cucked on a higher level than literally anything
Margaret Thatcher was the most conservative PM of the UK in my lifetime IIRC. It's got nothing to do with "one world" and everything to do with conservatives going all in on corporate greed, especially in the 80's.Privatization of natural resources. Damn humans, you dumb!
Funny how the people who were screaming for globalization and “one world” concepts are starting to see the serious problems in it now. Gross shit that many ignored.
They did that here in Canada and now they're pretty much insolvent.
Good point... some things work well being privatized (phone service comes to mind) but when its something like water... how can there be competition.The idea of privatisation is competition.
What competition has Thames Water actually faced, though?
It's completely pointless.
- A private company holding the most important resource is quite absurde.One would assume that would be disallowed as a matter of national security. Stupefying that it isn't.