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In my time reading this forum, I've noticed something very clear come through: nearly everybody has a different take on what actually happened in the fight. For instance: Vergara/Lacerda thread, some people claim guy ran half the round, others claim it was one instance of sprinting. I haven't watched it. I'm not going to comment. I'm sure even people who did comment and disagree probably DID mostly watch it. But there are matches where I watched, especially in a group setting, where although I was sure who won and got a good grasp of the fight, certain elements and details would escape me completely. No viewing is complete. So what's the deal? Rewatch everything before posting on sherdog? Not to nitpick anyone, but in the wake of losses especially, you get comments where someone says something like "Cruz was even beating Vera before the knockout," which is like... No. Cruz got dropped at least once and looked like a ghost after it, to the point where I as a fan KNEW it wasn't going to end well already. I don't even remember if he got flash -koed more than once by a trivial punch like that... Because it's been a while since I saw it. So is there no getting around this? I know this is basically a ramble but after missing (most) of an event and coming to read about it here it seems like a big game of telephone.
 
There are studies I’ve seen where they’ll have a room full of people. And someone will pretend to come in and rob the place like it’s a convenience store. Then everybody writes down everything they remember right after.

And nobody ever sees the same thing. They’ll get things as basic as hair colour, clothing, hat or no hat wrong. Even just a few words that the person said they’ll get completely wrong. And it’s filmed so there is literally no question about any of it. It’s bizarre.

So for people even the judges to see a 3, or 5 round fight completely differently than others is pretty common. And it will always happen. So yeah, a lot like telephone.
 
TempleoftheDog said:
There are studies I’ve seen where they’ll have a room full of people. And someone will pretend to come in and rob the place like it’s a convenience store. Then everybody writes down everything they remember right after.

And nobody ever sees the same thing. They’ll get things as basic as hair colour, clothing, hat or no hat wrong. Even just a few words that the person said they’ll get completely wrong. And it’s filmed so there is literally no question about any of it. It’s bizarre.

So for people even the judges to see a 3, or 5 round fight completely differently than others is pretty common. And it will always happen. So yeah, a lot like telephone.
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I'm really glad you brought this up. In a bit simpler terms, it even reminds me of an exercise in high school (it's been a while) where the teacher asked us all to describe a rose. But what everybody actually described was kind of or even radically different. I do genuinely wonder to what level is it actual differences in perception, writing ability, judgment, and just people plain not watching the fights, or being incredibly/blindly biased. I also think subjective judging kinda blows and have made threads about it.

I dig your posts by the way {<redford}Keep doing you
 
TempleoftheDog said:
So for people even the judges to see a 3, or 5 round fight completely differently than others is pretty common.
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Depends on the amount of Others though. They do watch the same fights afterall.
So disagreeing with a judge can be perfectly normal, but when you ask 20 people and 20 of them disagree with the judge, something is going wrong.
 
I have a cousin who scores all close rounds 10-10 I think Vettori vs Dodlize round 1 was an instance of this.
It baffles my brain because I've tried to explain it doesn't work like that.
I think it's his way of saying he didn't pay enough attention to remember but when his guys fight it's always about how they could've arguably won the round/fight even if they only did a few things in the round.

Lots of fight fans put on blinders for fighters they like. Just listen to Rogan talk about Izzy, that's the clearest example of bias affecting his ability to judge or comment on what he's watching.
I'm a sucker for bias though too, even my casual friends rip on me for it
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GiganticMeat said:
I'm really glad you brought this up. In a bit simpler terms, it even reminds me of an exercise in high school (it's been a while) where the teacher asked us all to describe a rose. But what everybody actually described was kind of or even radically different. I do genuinely wonder to what level is it actual differences in perception, writing ability, judgment, and just people plain not watching the fights, or being incredibly/blindly biased. I also think subjective judging kinda blows and have made threads about it.

I dig your posts by the way {<redford}Keep doing you
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Do you really have a big dong?
 
GiganticMeat said:
In my time reading this forum, I've noticed something very clear come through: nearly everybody has a different take on what actually happened in the fight. For instance: Vergara/Lacerda thread, some people claim guy ran half the round, others claim it was one instance of sprinting.
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So 50/50 somehow translates to "everybody"?
GiganticMeat said:
I haven't watched it. I'm not going to comment.
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GiganticMeat said:
Joke's on you. Journals are teh ghey and due to my enormous girth I qualified to write on sherdog
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With this idiotic thread and first post, you most definitely are qualified.
 
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