Media Was Valentina dominating before she lost?

I thought she was winning but not dominating, but at some point I noticed she started to lose her edge and even started cheating like she always does when she’s scared.
 
sss133 said:
This is one fight where a dominant champion lost and I’m not too convinced they’ll come back and take the title easily.

Nunes vs Pena you could see a skill difference and that if Nunes fixed the cardio there’d be a change.

Shevchenko was up but there was never a time in that fight where I felt Grasso was out of that fight. Grasso was more than holding her own with the boxing if not winning the stand up on damage grounds.

While she was getting taken down rd 2/3 she was starting to manage her defence and was able to get up. Plus Val wasn’t necessarily lighting her up on the ground.

I’d have Val as a slight favourite but if it’s in Mexico City at altitude, if Val gets tired and can’t mix it up with the grappling, I wouldn’t be surprised if Grasso won again
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That's some great foresight there. It's obvious the UFC wants to capitalize on their 3 Mexican champions while they have them. May 6th is already booked for Brooklyn, but tbh, Cinco de Mayo is more of an American holiday. Mexicans celebrate their independence in September, and if the UFC truly wants to capture the Mexican market, they should focus on that date and México city.

If they do the fight in Mexico, that truly does favor Grasso. Guadalajara is at ~5000 ft elevation, while Mexico City sits at ~7000 ft of elevation. Grasso could easily do her camp at home and could acclimate for a month in Mexico City actual. Val would have to schedule her training around that, her camps in Japan and Thailand aren't going to cut it.

That said, that's a long time for the company to shelve 3 healthy champions. Let's see how this thing unfolds.
 
2-2 if she was dominating she wouldn’t be trying to win with takedowns. Very closely contested fight and 50/50 chance for either entering the 5th (if the sub didn’t happen).
 
She was up 2 rds to 1 but would've lost rd 4, so it would've been 2 rds even going into the 5th. Even though I had Val up 2 rds to 1, I think Grasso was outlanding her in the standup, but overall Val was still up because MMA isn't judged just off strictly standup. Val does not look invincible at all anymore, 2 fights in a row now. She could or probably is past her prime. Her last 2 opponents were supposed to be not real challenges for her, look at the bet odds going in.
 
Gamer2k4 said:
If the fight had kept on going the way it was going, Valentina was absolutely going to win. That's not the same as dominating, admittedly, but it does lend credibility to the notion of "she was winning until she lost."

People saw Alexa holding her own with Valentina on the feet and act like she was winning it handily. She wasn't. If two nobodies had had the same Round 1, people would have called it a very even round with a perhaps slight edge for the challenger. But since it's Valentina (just like people do with Jones), people treat "not smashing the competition 50-43" as the same as "rusty/bad/getting dominated."
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All the judges gave alexa round 1. She would have won round 4 if Valentina survived the choke
 
If a fight is over 5 rounds, you're not dominating winning rounds with an effort that you can't sustain 'til the end.

Same goes for Izzy vs Poatan.
 
Valentina may be trying to spin it that way (i.e. that she was dominating the entire fight) in order to try to persuade the UFC to give her an immediate re-match. Despite Alexa saying Valentina deserves an immediate re-match, I heard that the UFC may want Valentina to defeat Manon Fiorot before giving her the re-match.
 
drbolony said:



Valentina seems to think so. She said it post fight and doubled down on this IG post from a few hours ago.

I don't, to me it seemed like Grasso adjusted to everything Valentina did and she got frustrated. What do the sherbros think? Discuss.
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She looks diminished to me for sure. If its not the end for her as a top fighter, its the beginning of the end.
 
VinceArch said:
Not at all. Had that fight gone into the 5th round they would've been 2-2.
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This is how I saw it as well. Not sure where all this domination talk is coming from. However, I do think Grasso would've had to do something spectacular in the 5th to steal the belt away from Valentina.
 
White lightning 2 said:
She was absolutely dominating that fight. 1 mistake all it took but she was winning that fight everywhere especially with the takedowns
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Uh no. Grasso was getting the better of the standup and ultimately was more effective on the ground. And had Shev survived the choke, we'd have been headed into the final round tied 2-2. Not saying Shev had no success, of course she did. But she was dominating even less than most champs who were not dominating prior to "just being caught".
 
CleverNameEh said:
Dominating, no. There were several rds in which Grasso lit her up some, enough to make them close rds that could potentially go to Grasso.

Clearly on her way to winning the decision, yes.

She seemed to be ahead the majority of the time in the majority of rds.

At the point of the finish, assuming rd 4 ended normally, I would have had it 3-1 Val.
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How would you have it 3-1? Grasso won the first, and you couldn't really give Val the fourth if she had managed to survive it.
 
Grasso was getting the better of the striking exchanges and forced Shevchenko to grapple. Hardly dominating.

She was up 2-1 on the score cards, but the 4th would have been Grasso’s if Shevchenko survived the choke.
 
No, LOL.
She was not dominating at all. Arguably lost the 1st round. Then won the 2nd and 3rd round, but did almost nothing on the ground besides top control. She was on the path to winning a decision, but she was not dominating.
 
I don't think so. I think it was 2-1. She was on her way to grinding out a boring decision, but she was not dominating.
 
drbolony said:



Valentina seems to think so. She said it post fight and doubled down on this IG post from a few hours ago.

I don't, to me it seemed like Grasso adjusted to everything Valentina did and she got frustrated. What do the sherbros think? Discuss.
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She is still concussed from that shot she took in the 1st. She may have been up on points, but she was losing the fight.
 
IngaVovchanchyn said:
Uh no. Grasso was getting the better of the standup and ultimately was more effective on the ground. And had Shev survived the choke, we'd have been headed into the final round tied 2-2. Not saying Shev had no success, of course she did. But she was dominating even less than most champs who were not dominating prior to "just being caught".
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Uh yes she was ahead on all rounds. 2-2 not a chance. She took her down at will at was winning the standup. She was clearly winning that fight before the mistake.
 
Prince Nephilim said:
I thought she was winning but not dominating, but at some point I noticed she started to lose her edge and even started cheating like she always does when she’s scared.
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Cheating..? I missed that.. what did she do to cheat,
 
Not discrediting Grasso but Valentina did look like she's off; speed, reaction, choices she made in that fight

But then yet again Grasso does have good striking.. that might have made Val looked bad

Or maybe it's these 2 factors idk

Anyway before this fight, it's the first time we saw Valentina ending up in bad positions and losing the grappling exchange with Talia
 
No she was not dominating,but I thought she was winning or close to winning the rds
 
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