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Was Ngannou 2021 best version of any HW EVER? Who do you favor over him?

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Really, who do you favor over Ngannou 2021 (Stipe 2 fight) with greaat TD defense? peak HW Jones (2012-2014), peak Cain, peak Stipe, peak Fedor, peak DC, peak JDS, peak Lesnar, peak Werdum? peak Uber, peak Aspinall, peak Gane (they actually fough very close fight)?
 
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No he was not lol .

And Stipe proved this in the first fight....and was close to doing in the second but got over zealous and KOed himself lol ..

Francis left the UFC at the right time probably
 
No he was not lol .

And Stipe proved this in the first fight....and was close to doing in the second but got over zealous and KOed himself lol ..

Francis left the UFC at the right time probably
In second fight Stipe was small af and instead of focusing Ngannou, he was busy touching his shitty hair
 
He'd have a punchers chance against anybody.

Wish we got to see him against Jones or Aspinall.
 
He’s pretty much the greatest human being ever.
While we were playing Nintendo he was pulling 48 hour shifts at the salt mine.... at age 10. GOAT

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No he was not lol .

And Stipe proved this in the first fight....and was close to doing in the second but got over zealous and KOed himself lol ..

Francis left the UFC at the right time probably

You apparently forgot the entire fight. Francis dominated Stipe on the ground for most of the grappling exchange. "KO'd himself." Top level coping here.
 
2020 how convenient… you mean the guy who got mauled by Prime Stipe and waited until Cormier cracked his chin to get revenge?


There’s nothing complex about 2020 Ngannou, he’s a sloppy brawler who windmilled his way in the weakest heavyweight era against washed up decrepit fighters.


This dude got outboxed by the Black Beast, don’t ever disrespect this sport again.

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Big Frank never reached his peak I believe.
This is almost certainly true. By the time Ngannou started training MMA he was too old for his skills training to peak before he aged out of peak physical condition.

As for who beats 2020 Frank? Ciryl Gane with a month of intensive grappling training destroys him, and there are lots of fighters in history with equivalent or better skill sets.
 
Stipe would have beaten him again outside of the Apex. A smaller cage favored Frank way too much.
 
I don't think so. I wouldn't say he was even top 5 in that regard.
 
He'd be a nightmare matchup for any MMA HW in history. Doesn't mean he'd beat them all but he'd put a scare in them all.
 
You apparently forgot the entire fight. Francis dominated Stipe on the ground for most of the grappling exchange. "KO'd himself." Top level coping here.

LOL, what grappling exchanges? Perhaps you forgot the entire fight. All Francis did was sprawl on one TD from Stipe, reverse to his back, took Stipe down for a few seconds and landed some punches. Then he attempted another TD was stopped and went back to striking. The whole grappling sequence lasted 20 seconds.

You guys give way too much credit for this.
 
2020 Ngannou? Who only fought one time with sloppy punching technique and wasn't tested at all?
 
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