Was it prime Nate the destroyed McGregor?

No one could have beat Nate that night. Even Khabib would have got choked out.
 
WildShrimper said:
Definitely didn't make it look easy, Conor ended up panic wrasslin and getting choked tf out but Nate took mad damage too.
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Nate took damage because he still had a BAC level of .251 at fight time. It took him a little bit to find his rhythm and steady himself. Have you ever been drunk before? Alcohol can make you bleed at a higher rate. Nate is king.
 
When exactly is Nate Diaz's prime? Because he looked pretty awful at times before the Conor and MJ fights, after he had just looked really good.
I think the guy who fucked up gomi was prime Nate.
He had some tough fights after that, but I think he perhaps lasted till MJ.
Gomi--->johnson= Diaz prime
The Nate that fought Conor and beyond wasn't prime imo. He was getting pieced up pretty bad against Conor in the first round, and in the second fight several times. He's just a really good style to exploit McGregor's blitz into dogshit cardio style.
Post McGregor he beat a cooked Anthony Pettis who's off losing in pfl
Wrecked by masvidal
Wrecked completely by Edwards besides his lucky shot/rally at the end.
Nate's pretty washed and has been for a few years.
 
Bluntforce420 said:
Considering he wasn't training and took the fight on 10 days notice I think its fair to say that wasn't peak Diaz
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Conditioning wise sure and obviously.

It's still silly to say that someone who allegedly had the best performance of their career 3 months prior against MJ all of the sudden dropped off when facing Conor. That makes no sense. People don't lose all their skills, performance, and understanding of fighting in 3 months. If you think Nate was at his best against MJ you shouldn't suddenly think he was past that against Conor like they'd said.

As to your overall point though, well then you should think that the rematch 5 months later would be peak Diaz then. He did have proper notice and proper training that time.

Kumason said:
Right, cause majority decisions are absolute domination "like it was nothing" lol. You sound stupid. I think Conor won 48-47 but the shit you say is hilarious.

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Saying it was a domination was dumb by them sure, but it's just as dumb as your majority decision point. As you yourself acknowledge, you think Conor won 48-47. That's the easily correct score, but one idiot judge messed it up by somehow giving Diaz a 10-8 3rd resulting in it being a majority decision rather than unanimous. All of the rounds were scored for the same person with Conor winning 3-2, but that 10-8 made it a draw on that one card.

It's also weird that people shit on majority decisions, but never shit on split decisions. I swear 80% of this site isn't aware that a majority decision is better than a split decision lol.

Local Plata said:
That was a great performance for sure, but I don't think that would be considered his prime. Prime was probably his win streak that culminated in a title shot. He beat Gomi, Cowboy, and Jim Miller in a row iirc. And he really beat the brakes off of Cowboy when he was still good and undefeated in the UFC.
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I wouldn't necessarily disagree that he might've moved his best during that period, but I'd be curious to know how Gomi, Cowboy, and Miller could possibly be better than MJ, Conor, and a competitive loss to Conor.

Cause clearly the latter is the best stretch of his career.
 
markg171 said:
Conditioning wise sure and obviously.

It's still silly to say that someone who allegedly had the best performance of their career 3 months prior against MJ all of the sudden dropped off when facing Conor. That makes no sense. People don't lose all their skills, performance, and understanding of fighting in 3 months. If you think Nate was at his best against MJ you shouldn't suddenly think he was past that against Conor like they'd said.

As to your overall point though, well then you should think that the rematch 5 months later would be peak Diaz then. He did have proper notice and proper training that time.



Saying it was a domination was dumb by them sure, but it's just as dumb as your majority decision point. As you yourself acknowledge, you think Conor won 48-47. That's the easily correct score, but one idiot judge messed it up by somehow giving Diaz a 10-8 3rd resulting in it being a majority decision rather than unanimous. All of the rounds were scored for the same person with Conor winning 3-2, but that 10-8 made it a draw on that one card.

It's also weird that people shit on majority decisions, but never shit on split decisions. I swear 80% of this site isn't aware that a majority decision is better than a split decision lol.



I wouldn't necessarily disagree that he might've moved his best during that period, but I'd be curious to know how Gomi, Cowboy, and Miller could possibly be better than MJ, Conor, and a competitive loss to Conor.

Cause clearly the latter is the best stretch of his career.
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I was just pointing out that because it was short notice, that couldnt be peak Diaz. To me peak Diaz is at 155. Hes already slow and hittable. At 170 hes just bigger, slower, and even easier to hit
 
I honestly think Nate’s prime was his run where he beat Gomi, Cowboy and Miller in a row. He was looking like he could seriously take the belt before Bendo smashed him.

Honestly don’t think he’s looked as good since.
 
markg171 said:
Conditioning wise sure and obviously.

It's still silly to say that someone who allegedly had the best performance of their career 3 months prior against MJ all of the sudden dropped off when facing Conor. That makes no sense. People don't lose all their skills, performance, and understanding of fighting in 3 months. If you think Nate was at his best against MJ you shouldn't suddenly think he was past that against Conor like they'd said.

As to your overall point though, well then you should think that the rematch 5 months later would be peak Diaz then. He did have proper notice and proper training that time.



Saying it was a domination was dumb by them sure, but it's just as dumb as your majority decision point. As you yourself acknowledge, you think Conor won 48-47. That's the easily correct score, but one idiot judge messed it up by somehow giving Diaz a 10-8 3rd resulting in it being a majority decision rather than unanimous. All of the rounds were scored for the same person with Conor winning 3-2, but that 10-8 made it a draw on that one card.

It's also weird that people shit on majority decisions, but never shit on split decisions. I swear 80% of this site isn't aware that a majority decision is better than a split decision lol.



I wouldn't necessarily disagree that he might've moved his best during that period, but I'd be curious to know how Gomi, Cowboy, and Miller could possibly be better than MJ, Conor, and a competitive loss to Conor.

Cause clearly the latter is the best stretch of his career.
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Either way you’re left with Cabo Nate slappin, and tappin prime Conor. And the rematch wasn’t even a UD. I don’t understand the need to minimize losses in this sport. Getting caught early is a real thing. But anything after the first cpl of minutes is just losing (barring fouls).

Conor handpicked Nate for obvious reasons, but Nate didn’t read the memo. Conor was at the height of his cockiness right then, or very near to it. And he lost a fight. Just like everybody before and after him. He wasn’t even undefeated at that point.

He came back and totally ran away from Nate late to secure a MD. It would have been better if he had defended like he said immediately after the first fight. Aldo deserved it. But ego drove Conor towards avenging a loss. And cowardice prevented him from EVER defending a belt.

But it is what it is. Everybody loses and it’s how you bounce back. Other than the two WW fights he won. And a great performance in winning the LW belt. He has not bounced back well at LW. 3 times getting finished in a row. A tap, a KO, and a tko. It’s impossible to just write those losses off. I chalk all 4 losses up to ego though. He trained for his last fight not his next fight in the trilogy because of his ego. He wanted to avenge by leg kicks. We saw how that turned out. He clearly broke his own leg with a tiny amount of help from Dustin.

I don’t see the point in re-hashing this stuff over and over. History proves the case here. And Cabo Nate embarrassed Conor in the biggest fight of his life to that point.
 
Nah. Most fighters do a short after party after a fight.

McGregor did a long after party after maymac that lasted a few years.

Not good for a athlete body
 
markg171 said:
Conditioning wise sure and obviously.

It's still silly to say that someone who allegedly had the best performance of their career 3 months prior against MJ all of the sudden dropped off when facing Conor. That makes no sense. People don't lose all their skills, performance, and understanding of fighting in 3 months. If you think Nate was at his best against MJ you shouldn't suddenly think he was past that against Conor like they'd said.

As to your overall point though, well then you should think that the rematch 5 months later would be peak Diaz then. He did have proper notice and proper training that time.



Saying it was a domination was dumb by them sure, but it's just as dumb as your majority decision point. As you yourself acknowledge, you think Conor won 48-47. That's the easily correct score, but one idiot judge messed it up by somehow giving Diaz a 10-8 3rd resulting in it being a majority decision rather than unanimous. All of the rounds were scored for the same person with Conor winning 3-2, but that 10-8 made it a draw on that one card.

It's also weird that people shit on majority decisions, but never shit on split decisions. I swear 80% of this site isn't aware that a majority decision is better than a split decision lol.



I wouldn't necessarily disagree that he might've moved his best during that period, but I'd be curious to know how Gomi, Cowboy, and Miller could possibly be better than MJ, Conor, and a competitive loss to Conor.

Cause clearly the latter is the best stretch of his career.
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Because the 3 I mentioned were top ranked LWs at the time. MJ was ranked, I don't remember where though, and Conor is a joke.
 
HHJ said:
I think thats just all he has left. I dont think he could be anything more than what he is.
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I don’t think a lot folks actually appreciate the fact that Nate has essentially been fighting for like 3 or 4 legitimate eras within the UFC. GSP and Bisping are retired and Nate is still fighting to give folks perspective at the stage he’s in. The fact that he beat McGregor, lost via doctor stoppage against Masvidal and rocked Leon Edwards are huge accomplishments for a LW who looked his best in his last fight in the weight class. This dude still was a problem for LWs but chose purses over the strap. I have the utmost respect for those decisions.
 
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He never hit the heights of his title shot run again. The decline probably started with the Thomson head kick
 
Nate was at 70% of his Prime and totally obliterated LepreConor on his best day.
 
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JakePaulMMA said:
Nate was getting fucked up on a boat. Probably still tipsy by fight time and made it look easy.
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LOL. The TS is saying "destroyed" and you're saying he "made it look easy". Don't get me wrong, I like to watch Nate fight and it was a great finish preceded by a minute or so of dominance. But you revisionist history motherfuckers seem to forget that Nate was getting fucked up for much of the fight before that. He almost got finished by Conor in the first round.

Nate did not "destroy" Conor in either of their fights. He finished Conor in the first fight and arguably deserved the decision in the 2nd. But he was hurt MULTIPLE times by Conor in BOTH of those fights. He lost multiple rounds to Conor in those fights. Conor is clearly the superior striker and has more power. Nate won because he has much better submissions, stamina and has crazy chin and recovery and overall durability. Conor couldn't finish Nate like the others, gassed, got caught and then finished. And he couldn't keep up the pace with Nate in the 2nd fight, which almost led to him losing that one as well.
 
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He was at his peak. After the 2 beatings against Conor, win or lose, his scar tissue got out of control and the brain damage piled up. He is way more of a zombie since those fights.
 
Worthmore said:
He didnt destroy shit Conor was simply inefficient with his energy and then in the rematch when he was more efficient he dominated Nate like it was nothing.
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"Like it was nothing" a majority decision and 50% of people thinks that Conor lost.
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Best run was his run to LW title, but his best performance was against MJ imo. He looked more refined than he did against Cerrone. In the MJ fight he was defending low kicks much better and I thought his hands looked sharper. He was also in the best shape of his career in that fight.

He came in on short notice against McGregor, looked pretty good and won, and then he seemed to bulk up for the rematch, and I think that was to his detriment. Following the second fight, he took a long hiatus and was past his prime by the time he returned, although he did put things together well against Pettis.
 
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