Media Was Gane really going for the leglock or did he got sweep ?

[Killer Whale]

Scissor sweep timed perfectly when Gane base was too narrow.

the fact that Gane may have been going for leg lock - before or after, doesn’t matter - doesn’t change the fact it’s a sweep.

also, those who are calling this butterfly sweep instead of scissor don’t know jiu jitsu, other than what they hear on TV

It was kind of a blend from what I remember, I’ll have to watch again. He didn’t pull the shin across the middle like in a typical scissor, he used the pushing leg like in a butterfly but his body positioning was more scissor and he definitely scissored ganes knee. Either way it was a sweep.

 

[Stop Being Greedy]

Or Gane went for the leg lock because he knew he was getting swept like most beginners are taught.

He brought his right knee up, isolated Ngannou's leg on his quad like a shelf, then threw his opposite instep in to the thigh to sit back for the heel hook all on his own. That is a literal step by step of how beginners learn to go for them, and he executed it like the novice grappler that he is.

You can make the argument that Ngannou baited him and let his feet hang out there to encourage that so he could counter by sitting up. That's plausible, but unlikely. Gane was the one who made the decision to set that up and give away top position though. Ngannou simply took the gift that was given to him.

 

[cade187]

I think he had that submission in mind, but got swept during the set up. It's a normal occurrence.

This is the right answer. He never got his leg over Francis' knee before Francis swept the position, but it definitely looks like he was going for the leglock.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

He was entering into Ashi Garami, but Francis swept him as he was doing it allowing Francis to get the momentum to get to his feet

 

[Killer Whale]

He brought his right knee up, isolated Ngannou's leg on his quad like a shelf, then threw his opposite instep in to the thigh to sit back for the heel hook all on his own. That is a literal step by step of how beginners learn to go for them, and he executed it like the novice grappler that he is.

You can make the argument that Ngannou baited him and let his feet hang out there to encourage that so he could counter by sitting up. That's plausible, but unlikely. Gane was the one who made the decision to set that up and give away top position though. Ngannou simply took the gift that was given to him.

Or Gane was creating space and they kind of both went for it at the same time, Gane saw the leg lock opportunity and Francis saw the sweep and Francis came out on top. I’m glad you have a sound argument. I didn’t notice him shelving the leg, will have to rewatch.

 

[Luvhawky]

Absolutely got swept...maybe he thought about going for a leg lock?

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

He brought his right knee up, isolated Ngannou's leg on his quad like a shelf, then threw his opposite instep in to the thigh to sit back for the heel hook all on his own. That is a literal step by step of how beginners learn to go for them, and he executed it like the novice grappler that he is.

You can make the argument that Ngannou baited him and let his feet hang out there to encourage that so he could counter by sitting up. That's plausible, but unlikely. Gane was the one who made the decision to set that up and give away top position though. Ngannou simply took the gift that was given to him.

Yeah exactly, it's like when you know someone is gonna go for an armbar, so as they go to their back you use the momentum to come up

If I was an MMA coach I wouldn't even let guys try leg locks for anything other than sweeping to get top position

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Or Gane went for the leg lock because he knew he was getting swept like most beginners are taught.

He was setting up the Ashi entry before he got swept though

 

[Jean-MMA]

He brought his right knee up, isolated Ngannou's leg on his quad like a shelf, then threw his opposite instep in to the thigh to sit back for the heel hook all on his own. That is a literal step by step of how beginners learn to go for them, and he executed it like the novice grappler that he is.

You can make the argument that Ngannou baited him and let his feet hang out there to encourage that so he could counter by sitting up. That's plausible, but unlikely. Gane was the one who made the decision to set that up and give away top position though. Ngannou simply took the gift that was given to him.

I don't think it's unlikely.
Francis been grappling since 2013
Hes first grappling competition before UFC

He has 4 sub wins.
He looked like shit on the ground against stipe but he was completly gas'd.
I feel Xtrem Couture worked on it, they knew Ciryl likes leg lock, so they had a plan to bait and reverse. Francis been grappling with Vinnhy Maguales at Xtrem now every day.
His grappling is underated

 

[MMAcolyte]

Yep look what he does when he sits up and how he moves his left leg up for a leg lock . More I watch the more you can tell he went for a Sub .

Really silly on Gane's part and really slick on Ngannou's part.

 

[Killer Whale]

He was setting up the Ashi entry before he got swept though

Honestly only watched it that one time, will have to see it again, I’m sure you’re probably right.

 

[kuroro]

gane sucks so much in his grappling lmao, thats europe's biggest weakness how the fuck do you lose a grappling match with ngannou

people like you won't give ngannou credit for shit

 

[NoSmilez]

It's a combination of both. Gane went for the setup for the leglock first. I think he would have won the fight if he just sat in guard and threw some punches. I don't think Francis has a crazy guard game and he was too tired to explode much.

 

[Stop Being Greedy]

Or Gane was creating space and they kind of both went for it at the same time, Gane saw the leg lock opportunity and Francis saw the sweep and Francis came out on top. I’m glad you have a sound argument. I didn’t notice him shelving the leg, will have to rewatch.

Gane went first, it was a slow step by step progression that Ngannou realized was happening because of how clumsily it was executed. The leg shelf was what gave the entire setup away.

Any competent grappler who has ever felt their leg be isolated in that way knows exactly what the person on top has in mind. Gane lacked the flexibility and leg dexterity to get his right heel over the hip in time to prevent Ngannou from sitting up with him. He dropped back prematurely in order to try to create enough space to do so.

It's very clear. Ngannou capitalized on a poorly executed technique. Maybe he encouraged it by letting his foot hang out loose and not trying to hide it like most guys learn to do against anyone who's a serious leg lock threat, but he did not initiate a sweep first. Gane using the shelf and then throwing his instep in first are as clear as day.

 

[kuroro]

There was better grappling at UFC 1. Ken had leg locks.

yeah because they wore shoes back then

 

[Oscar Madison]

Watching closely it looks like Gane was trying to advance the position but black belt ngannou was With the overhook scissors swept him and then Gane went for the submission because he lose the position

That's just a stronger dude lifting and rolling Gane over onto his back. Sure, it helped that Gane went a little light on top by lifting his left leg, but you could see Francis use his strength to roll Gane with ease.

 

[Black Blood]

I think he was going for a leg and got swept...

Anyway, this fight really showed that Gane has no top/bottom game to speak of, and that Francis only really has freakish strength rather than skill either standing or on the ground.

 

[Killer Whale]

Gane went first, it was a slow step by step progression that Ngannou realized was happening because of how clumsily it was executed. The leg shelf was what gave the entire setup away.

Any competent grappler who has ever felt their leg be isolated in that way knows exactly what the person on top has in mind. Gane lacked the flexibility and leg dexterity to get his right heel over the hip in time to prevent Ngannou from sitting up with him. He dropped back prematurely in order to try to create enough space to do so.

It's very clear. Ngannou capitalized on a poorly executed technique. Maybe he encouraged it by letting his foot hang out loose and not trying to hide it like most guys learn to do against anyone who's a serious leg lock threat, but he did not initiate a sweep first. Gane using the shelf and then throwing his instep in first are as clear as day.

After rewatching it, you can’t really say that any better.

 

[Stop Being Greedy]

I don't think it's unlikely.
Francis been grappling since 2013
Hes first grappling competition before UFC

He has 4 sub wins.
He looked like shit on the ground against stipe but he was completly gas'd.
I feel Xtrem Couture worked on it, they knew Ciryl likes leg lock, so they had a plan to bait and reverse. Francis been grappling with Vinnhy Maguales at Xtrem now every day.
His grappling is underated

Very possible that he baited him, fair enough. I don't think he did though, that's a bit far fetched. We all expected Gane to cruise on top to a UD win. I think Ngannou recognized what was happening and just didn't try to hide his foot. Like that old quote, never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

Either way, Ngannou did not initiate the sweep first. Without Gane committing the worst error I can recall seeing in a HW title fight since Werdum ran straight into Miocic's fist, he does not get on top and win the fight.

 

[StonedLemur]

Looks to me like he sits up for the leg lock but Francis has the butterfly overhook and wrist control of Gane . You can see Gane trying to get Francis's leg in-between his and bringing his left leg up to do it for a split second as he sits up as if he's about to go to a leg lock

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