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winning the spar is the equivalent of winning the pads.
There’s nothing more irritating that trying to engage with someone, the take a potshot then run out of the area everytime you counter or walk them down.
If you have an area stay in it, don’t run the fuck out everytime somebody comes at at you. Buddy there was doing a full blown Charlie Zellonoff.
Plus they were just boxing and Bill Wallace’s hands were never very good
I disagree I've been to some of his seminars & his boxing is pretty good and he's spent a lot of time in boxing gyms. He could have knocked that guy out in the first couple exchanges if he'd have wanted to.
Damn, I haven't counted my mitt record. I might be the super GOAT if I didwinning the spar is the equivalent of winning the pads.
Agree. The guy barely landed a few jabs, no need to drop him several times. Even if he was acting like a goofy idiot. Seemed like a hurt ego.I don't really believe in all this 'put them in their place' nonsense. You're and adult, be the adult. If you're sparring and some kid is being stupid and taking it too far - just call a stop to the sparring session and tell him that you're not sparring until he can show that he's willing to spar properly.
Getting made and beating someones ass just makes you a tool as well. You're not in a fight, you're in a sparring session, so just as it's not right for him to spar really hard, it's not right for you to concuss him to teach him a lesson.
I don't know Bill and I don't really know the situation - but harsh words coming from someone as respected as Bill Wallace probably would have had more effect on the kid than Bill knocking him out.
I don't really believe in all this 'put them in their place' nonsense. You're and adult, be the adult. If you're sparring and some kid is being stupid and taking it too far - just call a stop to the sparring session and tell him that you're not sparring until he can show that he's willing to spar properly.
Getting made and beating someones ass just makes you a tool as well. You're not in a fight, you're in a sparring session, so just as it's not right for him to spar really hard, it's not right for you to concuss him to teach him a lesson.
I don't know Bill and I don't really know the situation - but harsh words coming from someone as respected as Bill Wallace probably would have had more effect on the kid than Bill knocking him out.
Disagree. These are the kind of people who also love bullying weaker skilled sparring partners and the only lesson to teach them is to give them a taste of their own medicine.
Pretty lame how "One-Nut" Wallace only fought cans and retired early. This mustached-hippy from the local headshop have been his toughest opponent.
Disagree. These are the kind of people who also love bullying weaker skilled sparring partners and the only lesson to teach them is to give them a taste of their own medicine. They dont give a shit about some words. They are there for the thrill to mark their territory and make a pissing contest out of it so lets make it and show it goes both ways.
I`ve seen such people crumble under the first real beating they got and that was the end of their behaviour or the end of their gym career. Either way the right move.
Agree. The guy barely landed a few jabs, no need to drop him several times. Even if he was acting like a goofy idiot. Seemed like a hurt ego.
Fast hands from old man Wallace though.
The clash of two egos imo.
One gets a pass for being a Legend. Thats not fair in my book
Frode, I remember you posting a video of you doing the same thing, except the other guy collapsed all the way to the floor. I thought for sure you would understand
Not the same thing imo. The guy i gave a semi hard lowkick was being a dick to my other sparring partners. Injuries waiting to happen.
Every single guy who escalates agression against a MT legend gets a similar treatment and everyone here seems to understand the fighting culture then. Try that sh* it Brazil. The only place where wrong-doing adults need diapers is in the ivory tower of the Western world, where people are so spoiled enough to be completely insulated to real-world consequences.
I don't see why it's a tragedy for some rough idiot goofball to get back what they're dishing out-- it's not like they were some poor bystander, they're actively assaulting a teacher whom they signed up under. Why anyone spills tears for THESE types when there are plenty of actual victims really bothers me. I don't think rough instigators (full grown ADULTS, not even children) need or deserve to be coddled. In fact, to do so is to incentivize an ever-worsening society.
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When I started sparring, I was doing some of these rude things, and I a lot of the things I was doing I assumed were "okay" and just me being "clever". I got my ass HANDLED and it worked. It fixed my view and brought me to absolute reality, better than a library of words could have ever done. It was a great lesson, and I would not change it. It definitely DOES work. And that's why it is done.
Forget your protective motherly instincts for a second. It goes far beyond that. The lessons that are learned through this are several, they are precious and irreplaceable.
One VERY IMPORTANT lesson that you get from this is not only about fairness or respect, but HOW TO FIGHT. A fighter cannot have this crappy fake mindset if they want to be a real fighter. It doesn't work, they cannot learn because it's not based in reality; it refuses reality. There is only one way to learn the actuality of it, and that is NOT artificial new-world pampering and protecting from natural consequences (eg, actual learning).
The clash of two egos imo.
One gets a pass for being a Legend. Thats not fair in my book
Not the same thing imo. The guy i gave a semi hard lowkick was being a dick to my other sparring partners. Injuries waiting to happen.
Bill was trying to give this guy a concussion, hitting as hard to the head as he possibly could.