Warhammer 40k

[JBSchroeds]

I saw they were doing the open beta but I hate PvP so it would be pointless for me to try it. I'm quite disappointed to hear that it's sucking.

 

[thoughtsone]

So i played Dawn of war 3 with @Chubz


My god it is the most awful fucking game i've ever played. God damn mess, yes im ragey

Its not that bad at all, it just doesnt feel like DOW, it feels like a RTS/MOBA mix, I personally had fun with it. You just mad cuz it has the dawn of war name, its certainly a good game, but its not a dawn of war feeling game.

 

[GhostZ06]

Never mind. Just found dude's deviantart page.

This one is amazing. This one is Termies and Space Wolves done right:

Makes me want to go read up on Space Wolves

do it, fucking awesome novels

 

[GhostZ06]

Mor plz.

magestic chicken ?

 

[GhostZ06]

Can confirm. Dawn of War 3 is garbage. One of the worst "major" RTS games I have ever played, and by far Relic's worst game to date.

I liken it to Command & Conquer 4. It brings nothing to the table that fans actually wanted, and what it does bring to the table is complete shit.

and the heros are ridiculously OP. chubz and i threw an army into battle, without a hero in the group we can't do shit

 

[JBSchroeds]

magestic chicken ?

I really hope the new rules are better balanced because I've really liked the idea of doing an Iyanden wraith construct force but they are so full of cheese right now that I can't justify picking up any of the models for it.

 

[thoughtsone]

Im shocked GW actually said that they are redoing all the rules instead of just surprising us with it now and pissing everyone off like they usually do.

 

[whougonnacall]

Lets see if the fluff gets a redoe too

Also rumours are a chaos primarch will turn! People are picking logar as the one..didnt make sense to me til someone broke it down on reddit

He doesnt embody any of the 4 gods really like others do
His whole thing was about needing something bigger than himself...gets banned from worshiping daddy then finds chaos gods and its hinted at later may have regretted joining them....he wanted a god/gods to worship but sees how corrupting the big 4 are
Locks himself away from.followers for 10k years contemplation on the entire matter ....ie i dun fucked up


Now big e is comatose and seems to have a godlike presence in the warp (has his own angels and saints to counter greater demons etc)
Logar if turned would be a massive boon
His understanding of worship,choas gods and the warp would be unparalleled at a time where guilliman rules and is sick of their b.s

Then u have the massive beast that is the echlesiastry (spell check fuck) such a gigantic mass of resources and manpower badly orgainized but under logar would be a steroid boost for imperium
Not to mention if any of his marines came with him
And of course the big thing....will his understanding of wosrhip and its effects in the warp help big daddy e? Could he make the trillions of big e worshippers do so in a way that charges him even more! Or understand how to get his lazy ass off the chair to full godhood?

Fluffwise the possiblities are frigging huge

 

[RoryFan]

I read my first 40k book last week, my friend got me I am Slaughter on a whim a year ago and I just got round to reading it. I actually enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. any one got any recommendations of what I should go for next?

I played the open beta of Dawn of War 3 over the weekend, it was such a disappointment. I'm one of the few who actually really liked what they did with the second game it felt more like the tabletop game focusing almost entirely on micro. Dawn of war 3 tries to smash the features from Dawn of War 1 & 2 together and it doesn't work at all tbh.

 

[JBSchroeds]

Lets see if the fluff gets a redoe too

Also rumours are a chaos primarch will turn! People are picking logar as the one..didnt make sense to me til someone broke it down on reddit

He doesnt embody any of the 4 gods really like others do
His whole thing was about needing something bigger than himself...gets banned from worshiping daddy then finds chaos gods and its hinted at later may have regretted joining them....he wanted a god/gods to worship but sees how corrupting the big 4 are
Locks himself away from.followers for 10k years contemplation on the entire matter ....ie i dun fucked up


Now big e is comatose and seems to have a godlike presence in the warp (has his own angels and saints to counter greater demons etc)
Logar if turned would be a massive boon
His understanding of worship,choas gods and the warp would be unparalleled at a time where guilliman rules and is sick of their b.s

Then u have the massive beast that is the echlesiastry (spell check fuck) such a gigantic mass of resources and manpower badly orgainized but under logar would be a steroid boost for imperium
Not to mention if any of his marines came with him
And of course the big thing....will his understanding of wosrhip and its effects in the warp help big daddy e? Could he make the trillions of big e worshippers do so in a way that charges him even more! Or understand how to get his lazy ass off the chair to full godhood?

Fluffwise the possiblities are frigging huge

Lorgar? Wat? GW themselves already teased Mortarion as the next one that's coming out. Death Guard are coming and they straight up showed us Mortarion's scythe in the adepticon trailer. Plus there's a leaked image (albeit very low resolution) of the model being painted.

 

[Magooglie]

Im shocked GW actually said that they are redoing all the rules instead of just surprising us with it now and pissing everyone off like they usually do.

GW have been doing a much better job as a company in the last couple of years. They're now firmly away from the Mark Wells era of things.

Lorgar? Wat? GW themselves already teased Mortarion as the next one that's coming out. Death Guard are coming and they straight up showed us Mortarion's scythe in the adepticon trailer. Plus there's a leaked image (albeit very low resolution) of the model being painted.

There's a rumor that one Chaos Primarch will go good and one Imperium Primarch will go Chaos in a future 40k story line.

 

[whougonnacall]

Lorgar? Wat? GW themselves already teased Mortarion as the next one that's coming out. Death Guard are coming and they straight up showed us Mortarion's scythe in the adepticon trailer. Plus there's a leaked image (albeit very low resolution) of the model being painted.

Comming out of the imperium to play yes.
But this is a rumour about a demon promarch defecting!
Mortarian is the perfect embodiment of nurgle
Slaneesh has fulgrim
Korne of course has angraon
And tzeenech has old big red magnus

Logar is the sore thumb...the one that simply embodies worship

Course could be wrong..aplha legion are ambiguous enough to turn back to good (if they ever really left it)

 

[whougonnacall]

There's a rumor that one Chaos Primarch will go good and one Imperium Primarch will go Chaos in a future 40k story line.

Hard to say which one will go rouge
Guilliman: maybe breaks after attempting to fix imperium...would really shake up the mary sue status of the ultramarines if their primarch went rouge but they held the line

Russ: maybe the breakdown of feris does it or maybe his time in the warp....kinda doesnt feel right though

The lion: awakes and all the 'fallen are loyalists/da were traitor ' stuff turns out to be true dun dun dun

Corax: always a lil emo anyway but his turning would sorta ruin the night lords etc (as they are pretty much the evil raven guard) ..unless maybe he
Takes over where his dark reflection (curze) as nightlords leader left off! and raven guard left to wrestle with emotions like the emos they are!

Khaaaaannnnnmnn: rumours are hes been held in webway tortured by dark eldar...his change would be expected

Vulkan: no wayyy bug daddy burns a lot changes

 

[Rozko]

The Lion is the most likely to fall. The Keepers or what ever they are called are probably chaos emissaries.

I cannot see a deamon prince coming back to the fold. I could see one of Twins from Alpha Legion betraying chaos in big pitched battle to turn the tide though.

 

[JBSchroeds]

Comming out of the imperium to play yes.
But this is a rumour about a demon promarch defecting!
Mortarian is the perfect embodiment of nurgle
Slaneesh has fulgrim
Korne of course has angraon
And tzeenech has old big red magnus

Logar is the sore thumb...the one that simply embodies worship

Course could be wrong..aplha legion are ambiguous enough to turn back to good (if they ever really left it)

Sorry, I totally misread the post, I thought you said "Also rumours are a chaos primarch will REturn!" which is why I was so confused.

Yeah, I'd heard something about the swapping sides thing but didn't think it was a coming from any well known rumormonger. But for the sake of argument, I think Omegon coming back as an imperial would be a strong option. They could say that Alpharius was the one who turned while Omegon stayed loyal. As for which imperial could turn, I'd say Khan would be a decent option. If he had really been captured by the Dark Eldar then the constant fighting in the pits (and whatever experiments/tortures the did with him) could end up turning.

 

[JBSchroeds]

GW did a big Q&A concerning the new edition (BoLS has an easy to read roundup of the major points). One thing that I was suuuper surprised by was that if you bought a rules book recently and still have a proof of purchase you can get in touch with GW for a voucher. That's impressive and unexpected. Good on you, GW.

A lot of the other info confirms more of what could be guessed by looking at AoS rules, but it sounds like stats are still sticking around rather than the flat d+ scores. They even go past 10! (insert Spinal Tap joke here)

 

[JBSchroeds]

A new post over at the community site [LINK] goes into more detail about the way unit profiles work. The major points

• Movement stat is back and no longer linked to unit type
• All units use the same type of profile, vehicles aren't broken out into their own thing
• Big critters/vehicles go to a more AoS system where they have a lot more wounds but have degrading stats as they take damage
• Stats are no longer capped at 10, and Super Heavy's no longer have their own category (the change to stats and degradation take care of the need to make that differentiation)
• WS and BS skill move to an X+ system rather than giving a number that you then have to look up on a chart. This actually isn't a functional a change to BS, which was already a flat value, it just removes the need to look it up on the chart (or memorize that To-Hit was equal to 7 minus BS).
• Both BS and WS will be subjected to modifiers in different situations (I believe at Adepticon they said Cover would be changing to a BS modifier rather than a different type of save).
  
• Strength vs Toughness still stick around rather than going the AoS route with a fixed to-wound value.
• The Initiative stat is gone. Charging units strike first so properly maneuvering for the charge will be very important.

These are the four example stat lines shown off:

They didn't mention it in the article, but from Adepticon we learned they'd be switching to the Bravery system from AoS instead of the old Morale system, so these Ld values are actually still really good (for reference, the Sigmarines have a Bravery of 6, so Ld 7 on the Tacticals is going to be a top-shelf value for infantry).

 

[Der Eisbär]

I read my first 40k book last week, my friend got me I am Slaughter on a whim a year ago and I just got round to reading it. I actually enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. any one got any recommendations of what I should go for next?

I played the open beta of Dawn of War 3 over the weekend, it was such a disappointment. I'm one of the few who actually really liked what they did with the second game it felt more like the tabletop game focusing almost entirely on micro. Dawn of war 3 tries to smash the features from Dawn of War 1 & 2 together and it doesn't work at all tbh.

The older stuff is much better literature than some of the newer stuff. Pick up the space wolves omnibus. That's a great intro to the 40k world.

 

[whougonnacall]

Sorry, I totally misread the post, I thought you said "Also rumours are a chaos primarch will REturn!" which is why I was so confused.

Yeah, I'd heard something about the swapping sides thing but didn't think it was a coming from any well known rumormonger. But for the sake of argument, I think Omegon coming back as an imperial would be a strong option. They could say that Alpharius was the one who turned while Omegon stayed loyal. As for which imperial could turn, I'd say Khan would be a decent option. If he had really been captured by the Dark Eldar then the constant fighting in the pits (and whatever experiments/tortures the did with him) could end up turning.

True but the alpha legion are already a huge ?
Logar seems like the solid choice
The runt of the litter who pretty much started the heresy cause he was semi right all along

Gotta love his most boss moment someone mentioned on reddit
Magnus goes apeshit as 2 of by far the largest class of ships ever built come outta warp and hes like
'You ...you built 2 of these?'"
Logar doesnt even open his eyes as he says '' no brother.....i built 3 '' as yet another fucking giant ship appears.

 

[GhostZ06]

Lets see if the fluff gets a redoe too

Also rumours are a chaos primarch will turn! People are picking logar as the one..didnt make sense to me til someone broke it down on reddit

He doesnt embody any of the 4 gods really like others do
His whole thing was about needing something bigger than himself...gets banned from worshiping daddy then finds chaos gods and its hinted at later may have regretted joining them....he wanted a god/gods to worship but sees how corrupting the big 4 are
Locks himself away from.followers for 10k years contemplation on the entire matter ....ie i dun fucked up


Now big e is comatose and seems to have a godlike presence in the warp (has his own angels and saints to counter greater demons etc)
Logar if turned would be a massive boon
His understanding of worship,choas gods and the warp would be unparalleled at a time where guilliman rules and is sick of their b.s

Then u have the massive beast that is the echlesiastry (spell check fuck) such a gigantic mass of resources and manpower badly orgainized but under logar would be a steroid boost for imperium
Not to mention if any of his marines came with him
And of course the big thing....will his understanding of wosrhip and its effects in the warp help big daddy e? Could he make the trillions of big e worshippers do so in a way that charges him even more! Or understand how to get his lazy ass off the chair to full godhood?

Fluffwise the possiblities are frigging huge

i thought it was the Vulkcan coming back that what it was leaning towards