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my favorite 40k booksView media item 33904
this is a great trilogy, you may want to start with something describing how a space marine is made
i read the trilogy every year
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my favorite 40k booksView media item 33904
this is a great trilogy, you may want to start with something describing how a space marine is made
Gotta say i disagree with the idea that being new or fresh is essential to 40k. The point of 40k is fan service, it is a Mish mash of all the cool aspects of pop sci fi. Really what a 40k media would need to do is to be fun, hit all the sweet spots. In that sense what 40k would do best is a series along the lines of Spartacus. It dont take itself to serious but it has fun with what it do.I do think the main problem you'd have is that due to both the influences that go into 40k and indeed its own influences in pop culture(Starcraft, Edge of Tomorrow, etc) a good deal of the lore wouldn't really be THAT fresh.
Grey Knights do seem like they would be more interesting playing up the warrior monk aspect rather than just super soliders in power armor.
See these?my favorite 40k books
i read the trilogy every year
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Yup i dig anything night lord relatedSee these?
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Yup i dig anything night lord related
Ave Dominus Nox
Depends on how they are written. Sometimes they are the Emo cousins, and Kurze is a loser.I like them, like the emo cousin
Which 40k books are worth reading biys
This is what I started with as recommended by many. I listened to the audiobooks, they are all excellent.I'm a fan of the old Dan Abnett ones.
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Horus Rising
False Gods
Galaxy in Flames
Flight of the Eisenstein
Fulgrim
Descent of Angels
Legion
~015.M39: The Alien Beast Within
~021.M39: Draco (May not have happened - Inquisition War)
~100.M39: Warped Stars
~122.M39: Harlequin (May not have happened - Inquisition War)
~122.M39: Chaos Child (May not have happened - Inquisition War)
~123.M39: Draco – Epilogue
143.M41: Execution Hour
240.M41: Xenos
241.M41: Missing in Action
338.M41: Malleus
355.M41: Backcloth for a Crown Additional
386.M41: Hereticus
402.M41: Ravenor (Thanks Peregrine!)
403.M41: Ravenor Returned (Thanks Peregrine!)
404.M41: Ravenor Rogue (Thanks Irandura!)
(From here onwards, the Gaunts Ghosts series is mixed in, and it is very fragmented with all the short stories. Plus, I've only got The Founding omnibus, and I'm sure some of the short stories are out of place in this list)
735.M41: Manzipor (Fp107)
736.M41: Ignatius Cardinal (Fp85)
~740.M41: Rogue Star
745.M41: Darendara (Fp21, Fp231)
747.M41: Gylatus Decimus (Fp49)
749.M41: Khedd 1173 (Fp159)
765.M41: Ghostmaker (Fp245)
765.M41: A Blooding (Fp265)
765.M41: Nubila Reach (Fp15)
765.M41: First and Only
766.M41: The Angel of Bucelaphon (Fp319)
766.M41: The Hollows of Hell (Fp299)
766.M41: That Hideous Strength (Fp333)
767.M41: Permafrost (Fp349)
767.M41: Blood Oath (Fp365)
767.M41: Sound and Fury (Fp289)
768.M41: A Simple Plan (Fp387)
768.M41: Witch Hunt (Fp411, Fp243, Fp263, Fp285, Fp297, Fp317, Fp331, Fp347, Fp363, Fp385, Fp409)
768.M41: Some Dark and Secret Purpose (Fp429)
769.M41: Necropolis (Fp489)
769.M41: In Remembrance (Fp747)
770.M41: Honour Guard
771.M41: The Guns of Tanith
772.M41: Straight Silver
773.M41: Sabbat Martyr
774.M41: Traitor General
919.M41: Fight or Flight
922.M41: Sector 13
924.M41: Death or Glory
926.M41: The Beguiling
928.M41: Echoes of the Tomb
931.M41: For the Emperor
932.M41: Caves of Ice
937.M41: The Traitors Hand
(From here on out, these are in approximate order - there are very few dates for these besides the Ultramarines saga, which all happens in 999 unfortunately)
~996.M41: Deliverance
~996.M41: 13th Legion
~997.M41: Soul Drinker
~997.M41: Eye of Terror
~997.M41: Liberty
~998.M41: The Bleeding Chalice
~998.M41: Crimson Tears
~998.M41: Kill Team
~998.M41: Deus Encarmine
~998.M41: Deus Sanguinius
~999.M41: Chains of Command
999.M41: Nightbringer
999.M41: Storm of Iron
999.M41: Leviathan
999.M41: Grey Knights (Thanks Peregrine!)
999.M41: Warriors of Ultramar
999.M41: The Enemy of My Enemy
999.M41: Consequences
999.M41: Dead Sky, Black Sun
999.M41: Dark Adeptus
999.M41: Annihilation Squad (It says three years after the Second Ork invasion, but that was in 998, so I'm assuming it was the warp diluting time or something)
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I haven't actually listened to or read the Garro stories, I haven't even read the Revenor either. Weren't the Garro short stories in the 40K magazine originally? I've copy&pasted this from another forum, and it looks right for GG and Eisenhorn.
Horus Rising
False Gods
Galaxy in Flames
Flight of the Eisenstein
Fulgrim
Descent of Angels
Legion
~015.M39: The Alien Beast Within
~021.M39: Draco (May not have happened - Inquisition War)
~100.M39: Warped Stars
~122.M39: Harlequin (May not have happened - Inquisition War)
~122.M39: Chaos Child (May not have happened - Inquisition War)
~123.M39: Draco – Epilogue
143.M41: Execution Hour
240.M41: Xenos
241.M41: Missing in Action
338.M41: Malleus
355.M41: Backcloth for a Crown Additional
386.M41: Hereticus
402.M41: Ravenor (Thanks Peregrine!)
403.M41: Ravenor Returned (Thanks Peregrine!)
404.M41: Ravenor Rogue (Thanks Irandura!)
(From here onwards, the Gaunts Ghosts series is mixed in, and it is very fragmented with all the short stories. Plus, I've only got The Founding omnibus, and I'm sure some of the short stories are out of place in this list)
735.M41: Manzipor (Fp107)
736.M41: Ignatius Cardinal (Fp85)
~740.M41: Rogue Star
745.M41: Darendara (Fp21, Fp231)
747.M41: Gylatus Decimus (Fp49)
749.M41: Khedd 1173 (Fp159)
765.M41: Ghostmaker (Fp245)
765.M41: A Blooding (Fp265)
765.M41: Nubila Reach (Fp15)
765.M41: First and Only
766.M41: The Angel of Bucelaphon (Fp319)
766.M41: The Hollows of Hell (Fp299)
766.M41: That Hideous Strength (Fp333)
767.M41: Permafrost (Fp349)
767.M41: Blood Oath (Fp365)
767.M41: Sound and Fury (Fp289)
768.M41: A Simple Plan (Fp387)
768.M41: Witch Hunt (Fp411, Fp243, Fp263, Fp285, Fp297, Fp317, Fp331, Fp347, Fp363, Fp385, Fp409)
768.M41: Some Dark and Secret Purpose (Fp429)
769.M41: Necropolis (Fp489)
769.M41: In Remembrance (Fp747)
770.M41: Honour Guard
771.M41: The Guns of Tanith
772.M41: Straight Silver
773.M41: Sabbat Martyr
774.M41: Traitor General
919.M41: Fight or Flight
922.M41: Sector 13
924.M41: Death or Glory
926.M41: The Beguiling
928.M41: Echoes of the Tomb
931.M41: For the Emperor
932.M41: Caves of Ice
937.M41: The Traitors Hand
(From here on out, these are in approximate order - there are very few dates for these besides the Ultramarines saga, which all happens in 999 unfortunately)
~996.M41: Deliverance
~996.M41: 13th Legion
~997.M41: Soul Drinker
~997.M41: Eye of Terror
~997.M41: Liberty
~998.M41: The Bleeding Chalice
~998.M41: Crimson Tears
~998.M41: Kill Team
~998.M41: Deus Encarmine
~998.M41: Deus Sanguinius
~999.M41: Chains of Command
999.M41: Nightbringer
999.M41: Storm of Iron
999.M41: Leviathan
999.M41: Grey Knights (Thanks Peregrine!)
999.M41: Warriors of Ultramar
999.M41: The Enemy of My Enemy
999.M41: Consequences
999.M41: Dead Sky, Black Sun
999.M41: Dark Adeptus
999.M41: Annihilation Squad (It says three years after the Second Ork invasion, but that was in 998, so I'm assuming it was the warp diluting time or something)
As a fan of Starcraft, I'm jealous of Warhammer 40K for all the additional novels and lore you guys can enjoy.
Or a rogue trader.Probably the only way we get one is a female inquisitor film
Titanicus by Dan Abnett was something I enjoyed.
I think you've got your dates scrambled there. Starcraft: 1998. Firefly: 2002.I'm a big Starcraft fan too. What I understand is that one of the main guys behind it (Chris Metzen) is a big 40K and Star Wars/Firefly fan, which is why Starcraft has the feel of all of them, chunky space western.![]()
Starcraft II - 2010I think you've got your dates scrambled there. Starcraft: 1998. Firefly: 2002.
Well, I'll take your word for it, never played the sequel. But the first one doesn't have any of that feel to me.Starcraft II - 2010
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The story plays like a Space Western. You can clearly see the Firefly influence. There's even an Easter egg ripped from Firefly, but I forget what it is, I think a quote and some music? It's been a while. They reference a lot of sci-fi pop culture, from Fallout to Transformers, but you can clearly see the Firefly/Star Wars space western influences. Regardless, it's pure magic!
As a fan of Starcraft, I'm jealous of Warhammer 40K for all the additional novels and lore you guys can enjoy.
To be fair, female space marines if possible, would be completely different, they would basically be men. The amount of trials and phases regular Astartes go through, they're basically... i don't even know....they're inhuman at that point, as we all know. As the other poster said, its 40k, the amount of tech and genetic engineering done borders on "magic", so getting rid of PMS and other inconveniences wouldn't be an issue. Female space marines would end up looking like guys anyways, not the typical fanart of hot chicks in slender powerarmor.Women would make inferior space marines due to ... Nature. Male bodies are tougher. Denser bones and muscles, more test, faster muscle reactions.
Also, imagine a space marine with PMS or on her period.
You should play it, it's fucking awesome! I think it's free on Battle net, at least the main campaign?Well, I'll take your word for it, never played the sequel. But the first one doesn't have any of that feel to me.
From what I know, Warcraft and Starcraft are inspired heavily by Warhammer (which came first). They all borrow from Tolkien and other fantasy tropes that came before of course. There's always that rumour that Blizzard wanted to make Warcraft based on Warhammer, but Games Workshop denied them a license, so they went their own way. I loved those early Warcraft games.
I'm a big Starcraft fan too. What I understand is that one of the main guys behind it (Chris Metzen) is a big 40K and Star Wars/Firefly fan, which is why Starcraft has the feel of all of them, chunky space western.
If you enjoy the Starcraft, you'll love 40K, the lore is ridiculously rich. This is the video that got me hooked. The creators have done a really good job with fragmenting history info, much like our ancient Pyramid builders. There are always old tech/new discoveries to make. They already have an established rich universe, but this leaves it open to be expanded upon, while keeping things deliciously mysterious/intriguing lol