War Room OT Discussion v2

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Lol, nothing was plotted. They were just annoyed at Madmick and decided to take their discussions to PM. We talked about a bunch of other stuff too, like healthcare and gypsies.

I was going to say this. Unless there was a second PM discussion group I saw no plotting or anything like that.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Nope. I was pissed off last night as one of my chats was cut off mid stream, but my participation in here is lighthearted.

Look at it this way Jack, with a few exceptions (I'm a hardcore secularist and very anti-Islam as a doctrine) I'm a middle of the road kind of guy who's as willing to listen to different ideas as anyone you'll meet. Last night the principle of the thing cheesed me off. After reading Tachy and Bams replies in here it seems there might be more going on than apparent at first glance. As I tend to take posts in here at face value I'm going to just shrug and go with the flow.

Having said that I thought my concerns were worth voicing as I have absolutely no interest in echo chamber environments.

I find that odd, as there is a lot of diversity of opinion in the WR (for fuck's sake, I've had people accuse me of trolling just for saying someone they don't like is a decent, honorable person), while the posters we're talking about were specifically opposed to that--as indicated not just by their creation of an echo chamber spinoff (with a few minor exceptions allowed) but by their inability or unwillingness to engage with opposing viewpoints in the WR and attempts to shut down discussion through shitposting.

 

[Rational Poster]

I was going to say this. Unless there was a second PM discussion group I saw no plotting or anything like that.

Yeah but multiple mods in this thread have flatout said they had multiple pm groups going on.

You didn't get in the plot one.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Reading through the last few pages:

 

[Deleted member 429137]

Do you really get to know them? Did Ehtheist come clean about the online roleplaying before getting sick of it all?

I think if I ever had the highlight of my evening being arguing on the internet I would kill myself.

 

[Sycho Sid]

I think if I ever had the highlight of my evening being arguing on the internet I would kill myself.

 

[Ruprecht]

I think if I ever had the highlight of my evening being arguing on the internet I would kill myself.

Yeah, I've never gotten the appeal of online roleplaying games, gimmicks and trolls. I suspect they are defective. Dud units.

 

[Bald1]

I find that odd, as there is a lot of diversity of opinion in the WR (for fuck's sake, I've had people accuse me of trolling just for saying someone they don't like is a decent, honorable person), while the posters we're talking about were specifically opposed to that--as indicated not just by their creation of an echo chamber spinoff (with a few minor exceptions allowed) but by their inability or unwillingness to engage with opposing viewpoints in the WR and attempts to shut down discussion through shitposting.

I can only cite the reason for creating said group - a place free of caustic personalities, and the inclusion of non-right wing personalities as a sort of defense of the idea behind that chat.

*shrug* I'm over it. I asked the questions worth asking in my thread and got satisfactory replies from admins. You and I see things differently and that's fine by me. Not sure if there's much left to discuss on that facet of this topic.

 

[Falsedawn]

Damn dude, all that madness about bans goes way derper than I anticipated. I was wondering what sparked it all off.

These are turbulent times men, protect yer buttholes if you plan to make it through.

 

[HomerThompson]

I was going to post this in the WR "open discussion" thread, but it got locked by savagely liberal fascist nazi green party mods. So I will post it here. Just...pretend it's in there, for context.




@HomerThompson glared across the dim room, standing, erect, his bulbous shoulders golden in the lamplight, like the tops of brass bedposts.

"How do you want it?" he asked, wryly.

"Do me like a liberal!" begged Ehtheist, the corners of her mouth moist with anticipation.

In moments her feet were bouncing off the ceiling- repeatedly- her body contorted into strange and fantastic new poses, receiving all the raw male determination of Homer. She nearly fainted. Twice. Huffing, puffing, heaving, she asked for another. "Do me like a conservative!" she squealed, eyes shot red with passion. Homer frowned, and laid on top her, nearly motionless, possibly weeping. Ehtheist was well-used to this, and while it brought her no pleasure, it served as a palate cleanser for her desire.

"Do me like a Libertarian!" she cried at last. Homer frowned again, and reached across her slippery form to retrieve his wallet. "You can swipe your Visa right here" said Ehtheist, parting her thighs slightly. Homer, a savvy politician himself, knew she wasn't lying. But he was short on cash, and replied, as was customary, "How about my daughter's mountain bike in exchange for 17.5 minutes of moderate sex?"

Eighteen minutes later, both of them nearly spent, lying on their backs next to one another and staring at the ceiling- with occasional white popcorn ceiling stuff falling into their eyes- she had one last request of her broad-and-boldly-shouldered lover. At a near whisper she asked, "Homer, will you please, please, do me like an Independent?" He began to honor her request. But then, he hesitated. At the taint. He hesitainted, unsure which direction to go...

This post is even weirder than I thought. I just saw the thread where Etheist admitted that the account was a work.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

There is really not a lot to say on the matter of the group of banned posters.

Regardless of what I say here, some will still be pissed and think it's a conspiracy or the product of poor or over zealous modding.

The choice was to either continue to let a few posters disrupt and sub-forum and derail every thread in addition to fielding fabricated reports involving staff members whom they do not get along with or remove them and move on.

The amount of complaints I received either via email or handed down to me from the parent company far outweighed theirs and when users in their PM conversation start reporting and sending screencaps of their nefarious plans for the forums to me, there is really not a lot of wiggle room, especially considering they have all been asked and in some cases pleaded with to desist as no one really wanted it to get to this point and the response was "just ban me then" and apparently being defiant on a online forum was more important that their accounts

And yes, the "Mexicant" comment from Madmick has been sent to me for the last 8 months since he posted it and yes, I pulled his mod card for 30 days as the parent company was not happy either and there have not been any further issues and as Mick has modded what is historically the worst place on the Sherdog forums without incident for a decade, I was inclined to let him back after his suspension and that was the end of it, despite numerous emails sent with all sorts of different stories regarding it, but unlike those who were banned, Mick took the warning and moved on and learned from it.

Dealing with the fallout from this is far better than continuing to be pelted with hourly complaints and requests to clean up the war room.
The edict from above has been to simply get rid of the place and end any complaints or future problems, but much as I did with the OT, I'd rather tweak the rules and keep it around as I am aware for those of you who visit this place, it's a home of sorts and you genuinely enjoy it, the same way I enjoy the OT, but when constant issues continue to go up the chain and to myself, the question generally gets asked "why let a political discussion area cause so many problems?" and I am running out of reasons to deflect at this point
The other 2 options were to either move it to Mayberry where it would follow lighter rules and likely die off, or put in the OT and let it be a free for all, which would also likely kill the place so I chose the best option which would keep the War Room around.


I don't post in here

This is not an attack on the left or right or whatever, this was simply about responding to continuous complaints and reports of forums raids and posters trying to continually start shit with far too much free time on their hands and generally making the War Room a pain in the ass to moderate and to post in.

Numerous warnings were ignored along with infractions and if they want to sit it out for a while I will be happy to listen to them a while from now regarding bringing their accounts back.
I have a 5 page thread in the booth that has been going for months regarding this which is WAAAAY too much and indicitave of how many second chances they have had and how long it was let go.

Not going to debate this for hours.

It's done and time to move on

Any of the banned posters are welcome to email me directly to discuss it

Thanks dude. What I'm hearing is that whiny fuckin' pussies who can't get enough of the report function are jeopardizing our fun.

So does anyone who was in the secret group want to say what they were planning?

Because you weren't notified that makes it a "secret group"?

At least in the PM I was invited to there was some venting at first, very little plotting, then some humorous discussion. Pwent may have initially fancied the idea of diverting traffic from the public board to private discussion, but as anyone would guess, that amounted to little more than talking shit.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Just saw my first MAGA hat in the wild. Gotta say, made me think less of the guy even though I've never seen him before and won't likely see him ever again.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I can only cite the reason for creating said group - a place free of caustic personalities, and the inclusion of non-right wing personalities as a sort of defense of the idea behind that chat.

Weren't Wiolent, Pwent and KLN literally the most caustic personalities here?

Seems pretty obvious that the purpose was to have a right-wing echo chamber.

Because you weren't notified that makes it a "secret group"?

At least in the PM I was invited to there was some venting at first, very little plotting, then some humorous discussion. Pwent may have initially fancied the idea of diverting traffic from the public board to private discussion, but as anyone would guess, that amounted to little more than talking shit.

It was mentioned that screencaps were sent of plotting. So unless Tachy is lying, which he'd have no reason to do, I consider the question of whether there was plotting to be closed. And I was notified. Pwent mentioned it.

 

[Makani]

Just saw my first MAGA hat in the wild. Gotta say, made me think less of the guy even though I've never seen him before and won't likely see him ever again.

You never know, I wear mine ironically, which I guess is still a dick move.

Super hyped for the fights, most evenly matched card in a while, I've got Bisping, Cody, and Jojo, but I expect at least one shocker. If I had to pick a fight with a finish I'd go GSP-Bisping, but I expect the others to be great even if they go to decision.

 

[Teppodama]

WR Admin FISA sting on PM discussions. Neat. Was there any Off Topic or Mayberry collusion? We gonna get a Dossier on Pwent?

First major WR ban event I think I can remember.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

It was mentioned that screencaps were sent of plotting. So unless Tachy is lying, which he'd have no reason to do, I consider the question of whether there was plotting to be closed. And I was notified. Pwent mentioned it.

My post attests to Tachy not lying.

I guess if you were notified then it wasn't much of a secret.

 

[Jack V Savage]

You never know, I wear mine ironically, which I guess is still a dick move.

Super hyped for the fights, most evenly matched card in a while, I've got Bisping, Cody, and Jojo, but I expect at least one shocker. If I had to pick a fight with a finish I'd go GSP-Bisping, but I expect the others to be great even if they go to decision.

You guys on the same island? Maybe Cubo saw you.

My post attests to Tachy not lying.

I guess if you were notified then it wasn't much of a secret.

So we're agreed that there was plotting.

The existence of it wasn't a secret. The goings on were.

 

[Jack V Savage]

WR Admin FISA sting on PM discussions. Neat. Was there any Off Topic or Mayberry collusion? We gonna get a Dossier on Pwent?

First major WR ban event I think I can remember.

It actually looks as if there were whistleblowers in the midst. Sounds like maybe the WR right should look to do some purges.

 

[Teppodama]

It actually looks as if there were whistleblowers in the midst. Sounds like maybe the WR right should look to do some purges.

You're probably right...get it? Bad puns aside, fifth column conservative WR posters are so passe. Oh well, people should play it closer to the vest or realize this space isn't reality. It's just a pressure cooking stew of ideologues, trolls and bullshitters.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

The existence of it wasn't a secret. The goings on were.

Isn't that kinda the rule around here when it comes to private messaging?