War Room Lounge v99: "I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to too."

[Anung Un Rama]

lol I've got food, water and ammo to last 3 months without assistance.
generators, solar panels, etc.
no bunker though
that's gay

I’ve got a pistol and 1 bullet just in case my internet goes out unexpectedly

 

[Anung Un Rama]

 

[Anung Un Rama]

How To Stop Political Texts
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-stop-political-texts-4691829

 

[tonni]

How To Stop Political Texts
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-stop-political-texts-4691829

Move to Belgium, zero texts like that here.

 

[tonni]

Are people really stocking up supplies now because of the coronavirus? I'm sorry but lol

 

[tonni]

how do party?

 

[Clippy]

See guys I tell he play fetch

 

[nac386]

Ted Nugent is a better musician than Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan is a better poet than Ted Nugent.

I think I understand the point that you are trying to make here, but I disagree. Ted Nugent is a better guitar player, but their musical production speaks volumes as to who the better musician is.

It’s sort of like comparing the best artist in some art school, who is very technically sound and well researched, to an artist who broke boundaries and created some of the most famous pieces of all time but is less technical, and calling the art school kid the better painter.

I know a girl who went to MICA who can paint “better” than Pollock, but who’s the better painter? The one who does everything “right” or the one who created impactful art?

I think the entire point is the impact. Without the impact, the world is paint by numbers.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Another somewhat different fictional take on a similar idea was by Ted Chiang.

https://bbs.pku.edu.cn/attach/80/a2/80a255d7a8fc70db/Ted_Chiang.pdf

American son of Chinese immigrants writing a story about Muslims in Cairo so don't know if he's canceled (@nac386 or maybe @Kafir-kun can weigh in).

Seems to be historical fiction in which case the kind of research I mentioned before is far more relevant than being born in that culture. 21st century Cairo is more like any other 21st century city than it is medieval Cairo so merely being born and raised in Cairo today would give you very little insight into the experience of Medieval Cairo beyond what you would learn in history lessons in school.

If its not clear I love historical fiction and I see no issue with anyone writing about whatever culture or time period they want so long as they do the leg work. But writing about modern immigrant experiences is trickier if you are not of that culture since you don't have the same day to day insight. Still possible with research but it takes a different kind of research, like anthropological research in the sense of living with those people to try and get a glimpse of their experience.

 

[Islam Imamate]

They always start off great, which lasts about 1 hour max, but then go nowhere and get boring. The Walking Dead took this dynamic and squeezed it until every goddamn molecule of boring was gone from our world. God had to step in and invent new boredom so it wasn't lost forever (and so GoT could finish).

TWD was to me a completely unnecessary and uninspired series length version of 28 Days Later.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I did too. The last third of Days when they're in the mansion with the military dudes was meh.

First half of Days >>>>> first half of Weeks >>>>> 2nd half of Weeks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2nd half of Days. imo

I got my money on Contagion though. 28 Days/Weeks play a lot more like zombie flicks. Great ones, but still.

I guess I am in the minority because I like the part in the mansion. The guys who play the soldiers are great, love to see their casual dynamic contrasted with the weary survivors. I also really like Naomi Harris as Selena, she's perfectly adorable in it, and her relationship with Jim which is the first performance I had seen of Cillian Murphy who is an actor I have come to like. Not very original but I liked the way it was done.

Spoiler: Longer than a heartbeat

 

[Andy Capp]

Are people really stocking up supplies now because of the coronavirus? I'm sorry but lol

It's kind of silly, imo. I'm glad health officials are taking it seriously. Aside from that, normal hygiene is all the average person has to worry about. Interestingly, there's a run on masks and they're sold out in many places. There is evidence they are effective at preventing a sick person from spreading their illness, but for keeping you from getting sick, not so much.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Heading up to NYC for the night and my wife packed 3 outfits, 3 pairs of shoes and all her makeup.

I'm bringing the clothes I'm wearing

 

[Islam Imamate]

It is pure hyperbole to claim that Glover is the best artist alive. He is a decent entertainer at best. He still hasn't topped his best work playing a retard in Community. Community was brilliant.

He's very versatile and pretty good at multiple different artistic fields that makes him stand out. How many successful musicians can act and direct? Earlier ITT we were talking about Jessica' Simpson's performance in Dukes of Hazzard, that's closer to the average in terms of talent when it comes to crossover stars from music and pop culture.

But I agree its hyperbole, I'd never say it because I don't think I am cultured enough to make that claim with confidence. There are probably many monumentally talented artists out there in various niche realms of high art like classical/jazz music or painting or dance and whatnot that I am unaware of. But as far as pop culture goes Glover has a decent claim to being one of the better artists in that sphere given his versatility and success.

I am begining to really ask myself how we can have a republican democracy when one person happens to be rich and because of that he gets to make the rules on how people get elected.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-announce-debate-rules-likely-194634387.html

Yeah that's a bad look. On the one hand I kind of get it since Bloomberg is a serious candidate, or at least as serious as many of these lesser ones, so it makes sense to try and include him in the debates. But on the other hand its a bad look to change that rule in the middle of the primary to accommodate a wealthy candidate especially since if you ask me it seems like a reasonable rule.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Also there are 4 people getting on the bus wearing medical masks and none are Asian

 

[HereticBD]

I think the entire point is the impact. Without the impact, the world is paint by numbers.

I understand that argument, but I'm arguing pure technical musicianship, to which Ted Nugent is about 99 levels ahead of Bob Dylan. Nirvana made a bigger impact in the music industry too, but it doesn't mean Kurt Cobain didn't suck as a guitarist, who wrapped lyrics around basic bitch chords.

It's easy to make fun of Nugent because he's such a wacky psycho, but the dude is a legitimate legend in the guitar world.

I think a better argument would to say that Bob Dylan is the better overall artist than Ted Nugent, who's work clearly had a bigger cultural impact. Pure musicianship though(comparing how they played their respective instruments), it's really not a contest. If I was to say Freddy Mercury is a better singer than Bob Dylan, it shouldn't be controversial.

Although, I will say that I'm not a big fan of judging artistry on popularity or cultural impact, because it opens the door to popularity being the deciding factor to what makes an artist good, which I think most would agree is a faulty measuring stick when it comes to artists.

 

[Prokofievian]

I understand that argument, but I'm arguing pure technical musicianship, to which Ted Nugent is about 99 levels ahead of Bob Dylan. Nirvana made a bigger impact in the music industry too, but it doesn't mean Kurt Cobain didn't suck as a guitarist, who wrapped lyrics around basic bitch chords.

It's easy to make fun of Nugent because he's such a wacky psycho, but the dude is a legitimate legend in the guitar world.

I think a better argument would to say that Bob Dylan is the better overall artist than Ted Nugent, who's work clearly had a bigger cultural impact. Pure musicianship though(comparing how they played their respective instruments), it's really not a contest. If I was to say Freddy Mercury is a better singer than Bob Dylan, it shouldn't be controversial.

Although, I will say that I'm not a big fan of judging artistry on popularity or cultural impact, because it opens the door to popularity being the deciding factor to what makes an artist good, which I think most would agree is a faulty measuring stick when it comes to artists.

Yes and no. I don't think it's any worse than technical ability which leads to similar absurdities: for example, arvo pärt's music is often not at all difficult, while Alkan's music is so impossible that only recently have the top pianists started to play it. But it's also shit.

In the end, what makes art art, or not art, is a very slippery thing to define. Because if you could precisely define it, anyone could just do it, and it would cease to be art.

 

[HereticBD]

In the end, what makes art art, or not art, is a very slippery thing to define. Because if you could precisely define it, anyone could just do it, and it would cease to be art.

I won't disagree with that, which is why I'm trying to argue definable talents, and not necessarily "artistry". And while that can get muddy as well when you get up there with the elites, I don't think it's controversial to say that Bob Dylan is merely an average musician across the board in terms of ability.

 

[tonni]

 

[all caps]

David Icke was right