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I won't disagree with that, which is why I'm trying to argue definable talents, and not necessarily "artistry". And while that can get muddy as well when you get up there with the elites, I don't think it's controversial to say that Bob Dylan is merely an average musician across the board in terms of ability.
There is similarly no arguing that Leonard Cohen was a shit singer lol. I saw a meme about modern art a while back that I think describes what guys like these do: ''when 'I could have done that' meets 'yeah, but you didn't'"