War Room Lounge v96: On behalf of my country, I'd just like to apologize for Hawaiian Pizza. Again.

[PolishHeadlock2]

@Trotsky
@VivaRevolution

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

Should've went with Yang da Mang.

Dude Yang constantly sends me shit. CONSTANTLY

That's definitely not me lol, but that might have been what happened. When I got the promotion back in Oct., I picked up new duties, new team, etc, and the last person may have been exactly like that. When I did mid year it was for my old team. The worst person on this team, put in the second highest scores lol what? Say, "5,5,3,4,5". Leadership? 5. Someone who leads nothing, that I already had to issue a warning for client records aging faster than Biden on her laptop, who asks questions she should have learned a year ago, gave herself a 5/5 in Leadership. I almost feel like I'm being trolled, or tested, or both. In two weeks I'll be giving her a 2 in that category, and almost gave her a 1. How can the disconnect from reality be this extreme? Seems like it takes a very high level of delusion to buy into that.

Lol at letting anyone grade themself. I do the only grading on my performance evals and my supervisor is the only one who grades me.

But I do think your situation is hilarious because of course this person is delusional.

 

[VivaRevolution]

@Trotsky
@VivaRevolution

Not sure how funny this is, but I found it interesting. Pretty edgy.

 

[Mendacious]

Preparing Q3 staff reviews and it's amazing the type of nonsense people rate themselves. There's 5 categories, and you rate yourself say, 1/5 (though not so simple). Some of the worst employees give themselves all the top scores with the most absurd explanations for them. Now by the 31st I have to tell them "sorry but 2, 3, 2, 2, 2". I don't understand how people can be so deluded. Do they actually believe they are high performing exceptional employees? Or do they just go sky high to see what happens? I take back what I said about Bernie, Mitch for President man lol.

I’m sure some are aware that they’re mediocre but they don’t want to give you any ammunition or potentially sells themselves short.

I don’t see any benefit to rating yourself, tbh. Especially not on a job application. Why the fuck would I ever admit I’m a mediocre human being when everyone is going to lie and say they’re 5/5 or the recruiter thinks “ahh, we can’t get a 3/5, since everyone inflates their performance, he’s probably really a 1 or 2”

 

[Jack V Savage]

She was my number 2 as well but now a distant 2 at best. Honestly at this point I prefer Yang despite the fact that he has no fucking chance.

It's odd to me that people are reacting so emotionally to what appears to be a small difference in recollection.

I think (and credit to @Trotsky for bringing this up), I have a natural aversion to these kinds of hate frenzies. I naturally sympathize with the underdog and when I see passionate anger, it sends up an alarm that people are probably misunderstanding something.

Good read. I used to be a naive mistake theorist in that I believed enough graphs and examples and stats should suffice to convince most people but my time here in the WR has certainly made me reevaluate that idea.

As I mentioned, it's complicated because there are different levels of belief. So people often present arguments as if there is a common interest and they're just getting something wrong but there's a deeper reason that they want to hold on to the beliefs.

Before Trump got elected, Republicans would frequently argue for austerity either on the grounds that the need to address debt was so urgent that it superseded any other concerns or on the grounds that it would somehow actually improve growth. Even those claims were transparent nonsense, which was easily demonstrated, nothing could change their minds. Now those same people are silent or supportive of running higher deficits with no obvious need for stimulus and debt levels that are higher than they were when it was supposedly an immediate, dire concern. So on the one hand, yeah, it's just "fiscal and monetary policy should be maximally stimulative when our guy is in the WH and contractionary when we don't have the WH," but I think they would have insisted, even privately and to themselves before that they really believed their old arguments. It's not as simple as it being pure conflict.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Starting to notice the bernbots ire wasnt exclusive to billionaires, or even millionaires but they generally have issues with professionals making 6 figures. Its just youth and unskilled labourers vs everyone else.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Not sure how funny this is, but I found it interesting. Pretty edgy.

Lol Jesus

 

[Jack V Savage]

Starting to notice the bernbots ire wasnt exclusive to billionaires, or even millionaires but they generally have issues with professionals making 6 figures. Its just youth and unskilled labourers vs everyone else.

Other than their fellow cult members, who don't they hate? It's exactly like Trumpers.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Lol Jesus

Left out some good stuff in the editing:

"When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the devil shuts the gates of hell to keep him out. No man has a right to scab as long as there is a pool of water deep enough to drown his body in, or a rope long enough to hang his carcass with. Judas Iscariot was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his Master, he had character enough to hang himself. A scab hasn't.
Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas Iscariot sold his savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commission in the British Army. The modern strikebreaker sells his birthright, his country, his wife, his children, and his fellow men for an unfulfilled promise from his employer, trust, or corporation."

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Left out some good stuff in the editing:

"When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the devil shuts the gates of hell to keep him out. No man has a right to scab as long as there is a pool of water deep enough to drown his body in, or a rope long enough to hang his carcass with. Judas Iscariot was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his Master, he had character enough to hang himself. A scab hasn't.
Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas Iscariot sold his savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commission in the British Army. The modern strikebreaker sells his birthright, his country, his wife, his children, and his fellow men for an unfulfilled promise from his employer, trust, or corporation."

This is a bit more poetic than giant inflatable rats imo

 

[Mendacious]

@Kafir-kun you’re Iranian? TheScorpion said you were in another thread. You’re a Sunni though and not Arab, I’m guessing your people are Balochi?

Feel free to not answer. I’m usually not interested in the personal details of people, I don’t like sharing mine.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Lol

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Other than their fellow cult members, who don't they hate? It's exactly like Trumpers.

Im starting to see your prediction that he will lose support among the berniebot crowd if he is the nominee

 

[MMAisGod]

Yeah, I always thought grading myself was a useless exorcize.

And a side note. I used to work with a guy who's wife was obsessed with moving down south for some reason (Housing prices and real estate taxes around Philly are very low compared to NJ, NY and NE so I never got the appeal).

Anyway we have an office in Tennessee and he kind of hinted that he wanted to get moved there but there wasn't a need at the time.

So his wife keeps giving him shit and he starts looking for jobs in Florida. He finds a good paying job in Jacksonville.

Well he clashed with his boss right away and she fired him within a month.

The only job he could find that met his income needs was PWC in Tampa so he had like a 2 hour commute each way, I think he ended up renting an apartment in Tampa at one point because as you're aware PWC tax people can work some long nights.

Fast forward a year and a need in Tennessee opens up in our company and this guys former protégé gets promoted and shipped down to Tennessee.

He got tired of the commute and is back in Philly working for a small regional firm

Patience is a virtue and women don't have it lol

Wowww haha that's crazy, but those stories are probably more common than we realize. It can be very tempting to get impatient, but it's rarely worth it to jump the gun. The hours here can get crazy sometimes, so I don't know how some people do those long commutes. Almost no one does it for a long period. Every time you see it it's always the same. You can almost visually see the excitement drain from their eyes as the months roll by lol. Next thing you know they're gone and an internal staffer gets their spot as a promotion.

I had one of those at my last job and gave myself a 1.

my boss:
“I mean, I wouldn’t give you a 5 but a 1?”
“I’m not in a leadership role in the office so I don’t have to lead anyone. If there was an N/A I’d use that instead”

Hahaha wow lol.

 

[MMAisGod]

Lol at letting anyone grade themself. I do the only grading on my performance evals and my supervisor is the only one who grades me.

But I do think your situation is hilarious because of course this person is delusional.

I’m sure some are aware that they’re mediocre but they don’t want to give you any ammunition or potentially sells themselves short.

I don’t see any benefit to rating yourself, tbh. Especially not on a job application. Why the fuck would I ever admit I’m a mediocre human being when everyone is going to lie and say they’re 5/5 or the recruiter thinks “ahh, we can’t get a 3/5, since everyone inflates their performance, he’s probably really a 1 or 2”

I actually agree with that. I think it's pretty silly in a way that I don't expect crap performers to be like "Yes I do suck, I deserve the lowest scores". I just think the worst people could at least like, give themselves 3s and 4s. But 5s? Lolol.

I do value it for the high performers though as I'm sometimes so busy I wouldn't be able to capture all the things they are a part of or projects they worked on by just thinking of it on my own. Ultimately it helps them get better bonuses and raises, and makes me arguing for them to get more a bit easier. So I always send out the generic "fill this out, it's recommended but not required" email around this time of a quarter and focus more on them, and dread telling people who suck that they suck a lot more than they think they suck.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

I actually agree with that. I think it's pretty silly in a way that I don't expect crap performers to be like "Yes I do suck, I deserve the lowest scores". I just think the worst people could at least like, give themselves 3s and 4s. But 5s? Lolol.

I do value it for the high performers though as I'm sometimes so busy I wouldn't be able to capture all the things they are a part of or projects they worked on by just thinking of it on my own. Ultimately it helps them get better bonuses and raises, and makes me arguing for them to get more a bit easier. So I always send out the generic "fill this out, it's recommended but not required" email around this time of a quarter and focus more on them, and dread telling people who suck that they suck a lot more than they think they suck.

The way I do it in my department is at the start of the year I have them fill out a form with their strengths, weaknesses, and goals for the upcoming year. Then before I give them their final review I go over the form they filled out with them and we see whether they accomplished their goals, worked on their weaknesses, and if they didn’t reach their goals over why or why maybe their goals changed over time or whatever. So they do get to take stock of themselves as well as plead their case to me before I make my final review.

 

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/15/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-debate-audio/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2020-01-16T01:28:27&utm_source=twCNN

lmao

"I think you called me a liar on national TV," Warren can be heard saying.

"What?" Sanders responded.

"I think you called me a liar on national TV," she repeated.

"You know, let's not do it right now. If you want to have that discussion, we'll have that discussion," Sanders said, to which Warren replied, "Anytime."

 

[MMAisGod]

The way I do it in my department is at the start of the year I have them fill out a form with their strengths, weaknesses, and goals for the upcoming year. Then before I give them their final review I go over the form they filled out with them and we see whether they accomplished their goals, worked on their weaknesses, and if they didn’t reach their goals over why or why maybe their goals changed over time or whatever. So they do get to take stock of themselves as well as plead their case to me before I make my final review.

Wow I might steal some of this and add it to my yearly review process. I actually love the sound of something like that and never thought of it before.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Im starting to see your prediction that he will lose support among the berniebot crowd if he is the nominee

The prediction is that Sanders will lose support once he’s the nominee? What’s the logic behind that?

 

[Gregolian]

Wowww haha that's crazy, but those stories are probably more common than we realize. It can be very tempting to get impatient, but it's rarely worth it to jump the gun. The hours here can get crazy sometimes, so I don't know how some people do those long commutes. Almost no one does it for a long period. Every time you see it it's always the same. You can almost visually see the excitement drain from their eyes as the months roll by lol. Next thing you know they're gone and an internal staffer gets their spot as a promotion.



Hahaha wow lol.

Being completely honest, this was literally due two days after I had accepted my new job.