War Room Lounge v96: On behalf of my country, I'd just like to apologize for Hawaiian Pizza. Again.

[Gregolian]

I don't understand the hashtags, but that's a pretty good song. The music video, particularly with the ending, is really lame though.

Rhett's a decent performer but sorta falls into that annoying trap of only writing/doing songs that are like Nashville approved.



He plays a festival the pit from like the fence and like 10-12 rows back are nothing but girls. For probably pretty obvious reasons while the guys/boyfriends wait for a group like this to take the stage:

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

It looks like Putin is following in Xi's footsteps to lock down control of the country for life

 

[dissectingaorticaneurysm]

Some interesting results here from the ActBlue donor data.
https://www.waldrn.com/candidate-support-by-occupation-in-the-2020-democratic-primary/
Confirms certain stereotypes about their supporters.

 

[Mendacious]

Not a fan of fiction

On Reddit you’d be screenshotted and put on r/badwomansanatomy for this

Meanwhile a bunch of hens would brag about their FWBs giving them orgasms

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

On Reddit you’d be screenshotted and put on r/badwomansanatomy for this

Meanwhile a bunch of hens would brag about their FWBs giving them orgasms

r/Philadelphia has regular happy hours and I've been present at the bars when they are being held......

Needless to say I'd be fine drawing the ire of most of those groups

 

[Mendacious]

It looks like Putin is following in Xi's footsteps to lock down control of the country for life

Russia always devolves into one man rule, I don’t know why

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

r/Philadelphia has regular happy hours and I've been present at the bars when they are being held......

Needless to say I'd be fine drawing the ire of most of those groups

Haven't checked out the sub in a while and now they have disclaimer on safety because one of the mods was touching and biting people lol



"Hey one of your mods here.

We want to be completely transparent about everything that has gone down. There was a person who was a mod at the r/Philadelphia weekly meetups that was touching people inappropriately, even after being asked not to. That person was confronted when they bit someone "playfully" and the former mod threatened bans from the subreddit and the events.

The mod is now a former mod and will not be at any events going forward. The people who have come forward are talking with police.

We want all these meetups to be as safe as meeting someone off the internet can be. If anyone makes you uncomfortable, touches you inappropriately, or more. Please reach out to us(the r/PhillyMeetups mods) and/or the police, even if it happens in the larger subreddit.

We take all of these reports seriously."

 

[Trotsky]

Yeah, not only idiotic, but he doesn't need to, just needs to make the case that he didn't say that and move on. Lots of righties on here seem to know how lefties should campaign

I also think there's a fundamental misunderstanding about the differences between Democratic/left voters and Republican/right voters. Republican voters are generally less attentive and less committed. Their primary is more of a sampling process.

For the eventual Democratic nominee to have gone after his rivals in the way that Trump did - to call them philes, to make fun of the way they look, to give them nicknames like "Little Marco," or to accuse their parents of being terrorists - would be unthinkable. If Sanders called Biden a phile, he would instantly lose access to half or more of his voters. If Sanders called Buttigieg ugly or said his dad killed Ted Kennedy, he would instantly lose access to half his voters. They would be insanely turned off by that. I think that's a source of the inherent vulnerability to factionalism in left wing voters: like their representatives, they actually care about differences in both policy and personality. For right-wingers, it's a chest-thumping spectacle.

If Republicans were Olive Oyl, they'd have fallen in love with Bluto the first time he knocked Popeye out and whisked them away for raping.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Haven't checked out the sub in a while and now they have disclaimer on safety because one of the mods was touching and biting people lol



"Hey one of your mods here.

We want to be completely transparent about everything that has gone down. There was a person who was a mod at the r/Philadelphia weekly meetups that was touching people inappropriately, even after being asked not to. That person was confronted when they bit someone "playfully" and the former mod threatened bans from the subreddit and the events.

The mod is now a former mod and will not be at any events going forward. The people who have come forward are talking with police.

We want all these meetups to be as safe as meeting someone off the internet can be. If anyone makes you uncomfortable, touches you inappropriately, or more. Please reach out to us(the r/PhillyMeetups mods) and/or the police, even if it happens in the larger subreddit.

We take all of these reports seriously."

Really puts people's complaints about @Lead in perspective.

 

[Trotsky]

Russia always devolves into one man rule, I don’t know why

Might be the half-millennium of absolute monarchy.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Really puts people's complaints about @Lead in perspective.

Is @daruckus still a mod?

 

[LMP]

It's been a trip guys, but I've decided that /pol is my new home. I might stop by the meme thread every now and then.


@Higus @Tycho Brah

I hope this is just a ploy to get us to send you more dick pics via PMs.

 

[Clippy]

 

[Jack V Savage]

Is @daruckus still a mod?

Don't know who that is so I don't get the joke.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I also think there's a fundamental misunderstanding about the differences between Democratic/left voters and Republican/right voters. Republican voters are generally less attentive and less committed. Their primary is more of a sampling process.

For the eventual Democratic nominee to have gone after his rivals in the way that Trump did - to call them philes, to make fun of the way they look, to give them nicknames like "Little Marco," or to accuse their parents of being terrorists - would be unthinkable. If Sanders called Biden a phile, he would instantly lose access to half or more of his voters. If Sanders called Buttigieg ugly or said his dad killed Ted Kennedy, he would instantly lose access to half his voters. They would be insanely turned off by that. I think that's a source of the inherent vulnerability to factionalism in left wing voters: like their representatives, they actually care about differences in both policy and personality. For right-wingers, it's a chest-thumping spectacle.

If Republicans were Olive Oyl, they'd have fallen in love with Bluto the first time he knocked Popeye out and whisked them away for raping.

Good Jon Chait piece on the issue:

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/avenatti-2020-failed-democrats-dont-want-their-own-trump.html

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Don't know who that is so I don't get the joke.

He's also from Philly

 

[JDragon]

@Curmudgeon

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

I can't believe the Ukraine thread isn't more active after the Parnas documents were leaked.

They were stalking Ambassador Yovanovitch physically and electronically. Ukrainian officials warnedd her of her safety and the State Department called her up one day and told her to get on the first flight home.

This is like mob shit

 

[Mendacious]

Might be the half-millennium of absolute monarchy.

China was more or less on the same boat but they’ve institutionalized their dictatorship to the point that China can keep on going without a Xi Jingping.

Even when they were communist, it usually ended up in one man rule, whether it was Stalin or Brezhnev.

Absolute Monarchies today like Saudi Arabia until very recently have shared power well. Now we have MBS fucking things up, but for a while it was never really a one man rule even though it was absolute monarchy.

Russia just always goes back to it.

 

[Zankou]

Just saw this now (came out in Jan. 2018):

https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/01/24/conflict-vs-mistake/

I'm pretty strongly in the mistake camp when it comes to internecine battles on the left, and I lean toward the conflict camp when it comes to battles between Republican politicians and Democratic politicians (it's more complicated you're talking about regular people, and of course there's a big range). It's always somewhat complicated, though.

Relates to the discussion I was having with @Zankou. BTW, note that it's actually quite short for an SSC piece--just looks long because the comments are below and there are over 1,000 of them.

Thanks for the post ... decent article, although it embeds specific leftist assumptions about the nature of political conflict, I.e. that it has some objectively desirable resolution.

Generally speaking, I would disagree with you though on the alignment ... certainly leftist circles in American politics tend to be dominated by technocratic forms of debate, but the actual demographics of the Democratic Party nowadays tend to express fairly violent and fractured lines of conflict among a constellation of interest groups. There was a good article I recently read on the growing division between the parties, and how Balkanization faction politics have come to dominate the Dems, just as populism dominates the GOP. Can’t recall the cite tho.

You see this playing out in the Democratic primaries, where the debate terms are ostensibly about rational policy disagreements, but the primaries actually are decided primarily by signaling perceived interest group alignments. Cf the bitter battle yesterday over attempting to indict Sanders of misogyny.

I do like that article’s Marxist-type characterization of people holding up a bunch of charts and graphs and declaring that they show why their current social position is truly meritorious and why the yachts are sadly necessary. It’s a pretty direct way of addressing the tendency to declare existing social power relationships to be mandated by objective reason, while being uncritical about the role of irrational class and institutional power in advancing that argument. This often manifests by asserting a series of minute technical arguments, while ignoring their larger political effects and context as either being irrelevant, unpredictable, or immoral to take into account.

Generally speaking, my view is that the essence of political disagreement is almost always driven by conflict rather than mistake. It’s precisely that which makes it identifiable as political conflict in the first place, as a distinct phenomenon relative to the generic forms of human technocracy that attempt to resolve problems by agreed metrics.