War Room Lounge v80: It's gigantic, but will it fill that gap?

[Higus]

“Staying together” means that the nation doesn’t split into two or more nations/regions, and isn’t held together through strict authoritarian control (e.g., martial law, political incarcerations, etc.) I agree that we are doing well economically, and that there is an unusual amount of political conflict. Crime is relatively low on average, although it exists regionally at higher levels, and some of it is ignored for political reasons.

The problem is we are in uncharted water. The USA of the 1930’s could survive the Great Depression, but could we?

I can't help but feel that this goal is incredibly vague, perhaps on purpose, and completely unactionable in a Democracy. Like, you want people to share a homogeneous ideology or cultural identity? Ok. Would you have objections if it was a socially liberal ideology that everyone shared?

 

[Fawlty]

That'll probably match about the time the lease is done.

Like, he's a decent person but his 3 year old is an absolute fucking brat holy shit. I know 3 year olds are, well, 3 year olds but when they scream/yell ALL the time and you don't correct them... how do you expect them to behave in public?

His girlfriend/soon to be fiance/wife is a complete lazy ass too. Works from like 6-2, then picks up the kid from daycare and watches the kid during the day... which entails turning on fucking Netflix and sitting there with the kid till their naptime at like 3:30 pm or some shit (which is way too late as the kid doesn't wake up then till 5:30 and you wonder why you can't get them to go to sleep at 8:00pm)... does she empty the dishwasher or anything? Of course not, even though she eats dinner at our place every fucking day.

DPFK)#*&UG@$#PKJ$F)*$#@&%

You're still in an okay spot though all things considered. You can save up a grand or two and make the next move easy on yourself, find a pad like a studio or small 1 br (in a better location if you want), no worries about roomies unless you want one. Just imo.

 

[Fawlty]

The ideal roommate is a non-existent one. I wouldn't be able to tolerate ned flanders as a room mate.

I find this increases w/my age. Twenties and even up until 30 was somewhat tolerable. But things changed. I want my shit the way I want it. I think that's where our bud Greg is at now lol.

 

[Gregolian]

You're still in an okay spot though all things considered. You can save up a grand or two and make the next move easy on yourself, find a pad like a studio or small 1 br (in a better location if you want), no worries about roomies unless you want one. Just imo.

Goal is a 2 bedroom.

Partially for space but MOSTLY so my folks have a place to stay if they come visit/place to live at while searching for a house if they move here.

 

[Fawlty]

Have you considered running away with a young man from rural India?

Curry is the second least romantic odor.

 

[Fawlty]

Goal is a 2 bedroom.

Partially for space but MOSTLY so my folks have a place to stay if they come visit/place to live at while searching for a house if they move here.

I'd put they ass up in a hotel. Even pay for half. But that's just me.

 

[Gregolian]

I'd put they ass up in a hotel. Even pay for half. But that's just me.

It's just an option really.

EDIT:
Also, is it weird that a huge reason I want my own spot isn't just the 3 year old spoiled brat terrorist but so I can have my own fucking kitchen to do with what I want?

 

[Falsedawn]

@JamesRussler

Do you still believe that the constitution is a tool to be ignored by "strong people" and that the Voting Rights Act did nothing but stop states from combating voter fraud (ignoring the legal protections it conveyed to African Americans in the wake of Jim Crow)?

 

[Jack V Savage]

A war has that kind of effect. But it seems the enthusiasm didn't last against other enemies.

Yeah, could be just that the nature and ground of fissures was changed rather than the level of fissiparousness. The '70s seem to be a particularly divided time.

Japan and Germany were popular enemies, particularly Germany because they were white racists and killed a very popular group, unlike a certain NATO ally that still doesn't recognize their own genocide, but I digress.

Jews? Popular?

Activists suddenly became skeptical and wanted to see their view point. I mean, razing Dresden and killing European children is fine but how dare you attack little Viet children?

Yikes.

“Staying together” means that the nation doesn’t split into two or more nations/regions, and isn’t held together through strict authoritarian control (e.g., martial law, political incarcerations, etc.) I agree that we are doing well economically, and that there is an unusual amount of political conflict. Crime is relatively low on average, although it exists regionally at higher levels, and some of it is ignored for political reasons.

The problem is we are in uncharted water. The USA of the 1930’s could survive the Great Depression, but could we?

We just underwent a similarly sized shock, and it seems that we more than survived. So I'd think we passed your test pretty easily. The big challenge we're facing is the last, ugly gasp of the Boomers.

 

[Fawlty]

It's just an option really.

EDIT:
Also, is it weird that a huge reason I want my own spot isn't just the 3 year old spoiled brat terrorist but so I can have my own fucking kitchen to do with what I want?

Not weird, having the kitchen the way I want it is a big deal to me too. I'm more inclined to spend the time preparing good meals if I'm not sharing the space. My next wife is either going to have to be a better cook than me, or get the fuck out of my way.

 

[Gregolian]

Not weird, having the kitchen the way I want it is a big deal to me too. I'm more inclined to spend the time preparing good meals if I'm not sharing the space. My next wife is either going to have to be a better cook than me, or get the fuck out of my way.

I know it's overly particular for an apartment but I really hope I can afford a spot where the stove and the oven are separate entities. I hate those stoves that are above an oven. I know it's the most common form but I hate it. Give me that and a large space where I could have like my one wooden cutting board and a big butcher's block side by side for prep and I'd be happy. And a small balcony or something for this:


Old school charcoal grill that you can also digitally keep at a specific temperature for smoke? SIGN ME THE FUCK UP

 

[Falsedawn]

I know it's overly particular for an apartment but I really hope I can afford a spot where the stove and the oven are separate entities. I hate those stoves that are above an oven. I know it's the most common form but I hate it. Give me that and a large space where I could have like my one wooden cutting board and a big butcher's block side by side for prep and I'd be happy. And a small balcony or something for this:


Old school charcoal grill that you can also digitally keep at a specific temperature for smoke? SIGN ME THE FUCK UP

You sound like you want a house, greg.

 

[Gregolian]

You sound like you want a house, greg.

I would obviously prefer a house, or like a condo, or a townhouse....

But right now I just want my own spot.

That way I can also blast this sorta stuff on an iHome or something:




Without having some 3 year old start screaming like I'm trying to summon the devil. Legit was listening to Cadillac Three and like Cali P on a Spotify playlist (my tastes are all over the place deal with it) while making dinner last week for everyone and the fucking 3 year old looks at me and goes:
"Stop playing that it's not nice music"

And before I could catch myself I snapped back "children don't tell adults what to do and if you don't like it leave"

Kid was throwing a tantrum for the next 45 minutes.

I'm going to be a horrible father if I ever have kids.

 

[Prokofievian]

I find this increases w/my age. Twenties and even up until 30 was somewhat tolerable. But things changed. I want my shit the way I want it. I think that's where our bud Greg is at now lol.

28 was my breaking point. I was rooming with 3 other people in an old bungalo. One of them had precisely one set of dishes. He would leave them in the sink, dirty, until it was time to eat again, at which point he would wash the dishes, cook with them, and then leave them in the sink.

....he still had to wash the dishes every time he cooked, he just picked the time that was the least convenient for everyone else in the house, even though it made no difference to him.

And then there was the fucking bonkers evangelical woman from guyana who listened these barely coherent ranting on the verge of possessed sermons. She had a penchant for drama. She hid hardcore porno in her room, and then tried to frame someone else in the house with trying to harass her for her evangelical beliefs.

Those were the days.

 

[Prokofievian]

She must give some mean head...

I can't wait to get out so I can have a kitchen all to myself. Make some of my mom's recipes for like mabo-tofu and such since there's no way a 3 year old would eat that (hell, I might be the only one in the house that would) and I can get more pots and pans and start using cast iron again cause I don't trust other people to treat the stuff with the respect it deserves.

Oh yeah, and I can then live dangerously again and cook bacon in my underwear on a Saturday praying to not get burned while doing so.,

What is mabo tofu and how do you make it?

Also, stainless steel is far superior to cast iron. Cast iron is for sister fucking hill billies.

 

[Gregolian]

28 was my breaking point. I was rooming with 3 other people in an old bungalo. One of them had precisely one set of dishes. He would leave them in the sink, dirty, until it was time to eat again, at which point he would wash the dishes, cook with them, and then leave them in the sink.

....he still had to wash the dishes every time he cooked, he just picked the time that was the least convenient for everyone else in the house, even though it made no difference to him.

And then there was the fucking bonkers evangelical woman from guyana who listened these barely coherent ranting on the verge of possessed sermons. She had a penchant for drama. She hid hardcore porno in her room, and then tried to frame someone else in the house with trying to harass her for her evangelical beliefs.

Those were the days.

I think my breaking point was the last house I lived in. Had 5 fucking roommates and it was a colossal shit show. I'd go down to make like, bacon and eggs and the sink would be full of all the pots and pans unwashed and shit and my shot glasses and shit would go missing for weeks at a time as the house was basically full of alcoholics.

I'm only living with a roommate right now out of sheer convenience cause there was no way I could find my own spot, on my own sight unseen when I took my current job. My best roommate ever was a guy that I went to high school with. We'd hit the gym together and stop at the store for that night's dinner supplies and I'd like cook the protein on the grill or something while he made the sides (or we'd swap sometimes) and we'd clean everything up when we were done than go do our own things after that.

 

[Gregolian]

What is mabo tofu and how do you make it?

Also, stainless steel is far superior to cast iron. Cast iron is for sister fucking hill billies.

I only want a single cast iron pan to do like cornbread and shit in it. I have a nice set of non-stick pans and pots from Costco (the Kirkland brand one), only brought one pan with me but I really need a Dutch oven pot and one or two stainless steel pans too.



The recipe my mom uses has lots of ginger and green bell peppers too.

 

[Prokofievian]

I only want a single cast iron pan to do like cornbread and shit in it. I have a nice set of non-stick pans and pots from Costco (the Kirkland brand one), only brought one pan with me but I really need a Dutch oven pot and one or two stainless steel pans too.



The recipe my mom uses has lots of ginger and green bell peppers too.

Yeah, I'm gonna make that. Looks delicious.

 

[Gregolian]

Yeah, I'm gonna make that. Looks delicious.

It's great during this time of year too until spring and shit starts to hit.

The recipe my mom uses uses Tobanjan or some sort of jarred chili paste.

No idea how much she uses but she uses that baste in addition to two thin red chili peppers that she slices up super thin. Start with like oil and garlic in a woke then add the paste and ginger and once that's browned then the meat. Pull the pork and other stuff when the pork is browned up a decent amount, throw in more sesame oil then the green peppers, once those get slightly blistered then the meat goes back in yaddayaddayadda.

 

[JamesRussler]

I can't help but feel that this goal is incredibly vague, perhaps on purpose, and completely unactionable in a Democracy. Like, you want people to share a homogeneous ideology or cultural identity? Ok. Would you have objections if it was a socially liberal ideology that everyone shared?

When did I say “homogenous?” I said cohesive. Social cohesion is one of the key building blocks of a healthy nation. I hope don’t need to explain that to you any further.

I don’t know what you mean by “socially liberal,” because in some ways I’m socially liberal. But personally, I’d rather live in a country where mainstream social discourse reflects the perspective of heterosexual, family-oriented, hard-working, morally upright, responsible, Christian, Western peoples. Does that mean I would ban gays? No. Does that mean I’d ban Islam? No. I tolerate different perspectives, always have. But I certainly would object if the mainstream discourse reflected these perspectives, because that would reflect on my culture, and ultimately national identity. And at some point, I suppose my tolerance would run out. It depends how “socially liberal” we’re talking. I don’t want to live in a “gay nation,” a “transgender nation,” or a “Muslim nation,” because I’m not gay, trans, or Muslim. So if my society becomes saturated with folks who embrace gayness, transgenderism, and/or Islam, I would either move to a new place, and build a new society with people who share my outlook, or fight to change this one.