War Room Lounge v80: It's gigantic, but will it fill that gap?

[Prokofievian]

That'll probably match about the time the lease is done.

Like, he's a decent person but his 3 year old is an absolute fucking brat holy shit. I know 3 year olds are, well, 3 year olds but when they scream/yell ALL the time and you don't correct them... how do you expect them to behave in public?

His girlfriend/soon to be fiance/wife is a complete lazy ass too. Works from like 6-2, then picks up the kid from daycare and watches the kid during the day... which entails turning on fucking Netflix and sitting there with the kid till their naptime at like 3:30 pm or some shit (which is way too late as the kid doesn't wake up then till 5:30 and you wonder why you can't get them to go to sleep at 8:00pm)... does she empty the dishwasher or anything? Of course not, even though she eats dinner at our place every fucking day.

DPFK)#*&UG@$#PKJ$F)*$#@&%

The ideal roommate is a non-existent one. I wouldn't be able to tolerate ned flanders as a room mate.

 

[Gregolian]

The ideal roommate is a non-existent one. I wouldn't be able to tolerate ned flanders as a room mate.

It just drives me nuts that this person is here for every dinner and doesn't help clean up, is here during the afternoon and can't even empty the fucking dishwasher from the night before....

And ask her to cook? LOL, my buddy asked her to put some salt on some steaks once while he ran to the store to get some other stuff for dinner (before I moved here) and she put so much salt on the steaks they turned white and when asked why that much:
"You didn't say how much salt so I just put it on till they were white"

........ -_-

And I'm not the neatest person in the world but holy fuck... the way the kitchen feels like it gets destroyed every time someone OTHER than me cooks in it drives me nuts. Do you really REALLY need to use EVERY pot and pan and not use lids/a cover so if you're boiling something it covers the fucking stove top in like oil splotches and shit?

EDIT:
My buddy has a Traeger pellet smoker... she somehow managed to get that thing to catch on fire.

 

[Clippy]

You guys watch The Orville?

 

[Trotsky]

 

[Gregolian]

You guys watch The Orville?

All I can think of is popcorn and then Moral Orel now.

 

[JDragon]

You guys watch The Orville?

We may have had this conversation

 

[Clippy]

We may have had this conversation

 

[Gregolian]

Fffffuuuuu

 

[Prokofievian]

It just drives me nuts that this person is here for every dinner and doesn't help clean up, is here during the afternoon and can't even empty the fucking dishwasher from the night before....

And ask her to cook? LOL, my buddy asked her to put some salt on some steaks once while he ran to the store to get some other stuff for dinner (before I moved here) and she put so much salt on the steaks they turned white and when asked why that much:
"You didn't say how much salt so I just put it on till they were white"

........ -_-

And I'm not the neatest person in the world but holy fuck... the way the kitchen feels like it gets destroyed every time someone OTHER than me cooks in it drives me nuts. Do you really REALLY need to use EVERY pot and pan and not use lids/a cover so if you're boiling something it covers the fucking stove top in like oil splotches and shit?

EDIT:
My buddy has a Traeger pellet smoker... she somehow managed to get that thing to catch on fire.

Lol, she had better be fucking him silly. What a dummy. Otherwise



My girlfriend makes the best goddamn lasagna I've ever tasted. It's got blue cheese bechamel in it, playa. Blue cheese.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

No prob man

When it comes to mascots, let's just say that they are one of my biggest aggravations not just as a Native person, but as someone that works with kids. They are deeply problematic for a few reasons, not the least of which is the effect they have on kids. The American Psychological Association released a whole thing some years ago detailing them as toxic toward children and harmful to their mental health. I can dig up the link if you want. And I say this as someone that most people never guess is even Native at all. When I grew up, I never had the issue of looking like a mascot. Many of the kids I work with, however, don't have that luxury. And believe me, looking like the school mascot has the extreme potential to blow super duper hard.
Part of what's so damn frustrating here is that mascots are symptomatic of a larger issue that has ground up Native dignity for generations: being told by other people what we can and can't be upset about, or just how to feel about things in general. It's been a real titanic struggle to have ownership over our own positions on how we are treated. The example of blackface gets brought up a lot in conversations about mascots, and I think it's very important to realize that, while some people would of course have no issues with blackface and think black people shouldn't give a crap, the conversation rarely takes the direction of it being inappropriate for black people to have a problem with it at all. Saying you don't care that someone is upset is quite different than saying they don't have a right to be upset. And emotion aside, it really is just entirely inappropriate. All stereotypes, whether "positive" or negative, are harmful. I had a coworker a while back that always got asked computer questions because she is Asian. Out of a whole room of staff members, people would single her out. Pissed her off. I think most reasonable people could see why that kind of thing is frustrating.

As for microaggressions, our society is kind of awash with them. Native culture was forcible diffused and co-opted for so long (it still goes on all the time) that there are a lot of things which fit the bill. It's important to recognize that many, if not most, wouldn't use "pow wow" and other terms in a pejorative or insulting sense of some kind, but it certainly happens. The thing is, not only were those ideas taken, restricted, bastardized, outlawed in practice, and on and on, but they just flat out get used wrong. Pow wows are... real. Like, they happen. It's a specific and very important practice. When it gets thrown around inappropriately, many of us cringe even if you don't see it. Native people have been beaten into being submissive about microaggressions due to the long history losing in the face of very overt aggression, and the abject refusal in many cases from aggressors to change. Its a real problem for us, this whole passivity thing, and it's our responsibility to change it. That being said, you can't expect people to fix innocent behavior if you never offer a correction at all. If someone is saying pow wow in a way that is deliberately insulting, i'll snap at them on the spot. Otherwise, it's counterproductive. Better to just plainly and calmly explain that it's inappropriate. Give some education freely and without malice. People often respond very poorly regardless, because one of the deeply seeded issues with microaggressions (especially when it comes to Native culture) is that those knowingly committing them feel staunchly entitled to do so. You can't make headway with someone like that. Trying to explain how harmful mascots are, for example, will invariably just be all about them, their rights, their beloved mascot, how you're trying to steal it from them, and so forth. They can't see past themselves, and don't want to, anyway.

I feel like I wandered more than a bit, but hopefully this was helpful.

TL;DR

jk jk jk

no but seriously, thanks for sharing your personal experience and the education regarding "Pow wows."

I mean, I rarely if ever used that term, and didn't know the significance behind it. after what you said above, I'll stop using it all together.

Regarding this statement you made: Better to just plainly and calmly explain that it's inappropriate. Give some education freely and without malice. People often respond very poorly regardless, because one of the deeply seeded issues with microaggressions (especially when it comes to Native culture) is that those knowingly committing them feel staunchly entitled to do so.


you're absolutely right about that.

People often react negatively, or feel challenged when you attempt to correct them, on anything.

It reminds me of this debate I was having with an ex about that film "16 Candles" with Molly Ringwald.

I like several of John Hughes's films, (Ferris Bueller's day off, Breakfast Club) but I fucking hated this film.

because of this ridiculous racist caricature of an Asian character., Long Duk Dong.

Just a complete, fucking ridiculous representation of an Asian character, the butt of all the jokes, ridiculous accent...

my ex still maintiained this was "okay" and "it was funny!!" as if these were valid arguments.

anyway, I'm rambling now.

thanks again for sharing your personal perspective.

 

[Gregolian]

Lol, she had better be fucking him silly. What a dummy. Otherwise



My girlfriend makes the best goddamn lasagna I've ever tasted. It's got blue cheese bechamel in it, playa. Blue cheese.

She must give some mean head...

I can't wait to get out so I can have a kitchen all to myself. Make some of my mom's recipes for like mabo-tofu and such since there's no way a 3 year old would eat that (hell, I might be the only one in the house that would) and I can get more pots and pans and start using cast iron again cause I don't trust other people to treat the stuff with the respect it deserves.

Oh yeah, and I can then live dangerously again and cook bacon in my underwear on a Saturday praying to not get burned while doing so.,

 

[JDragon]

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

Lol, she had better be fucking him silly. What a dummy. Otherwise



My girlfriend makes the best goddamn lasagna I've ever tasted. It's got blue cheese bechamel in it, playa. Blue cheese.

That sounds tremendous.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

She must give some mean head...

I can't wait to get out so I can have a kitchen all to myself. Make some of my mom's recipes for like mabo-tofu and such since there's no way a 3 year old would eat that (hell, I might be the only one in the house that would) and I can get more pots and pans and start using cast iron again cause I don't trust other people to treat the stuff with the respect it deserves.

Oh yeah, and I can then live dangerously again and cook bacon in my underwear on a Saturday praying to not get burned while doing so.,

Dude my 18 month old loves mabo tofu. He loves spicy chili too. My wife was shocked, I guess he just gets it from me.

 

[Gregolian]

Dude my 18 month old loves mabo tofu. He loves spicy chili too. My wife was shocked, I guess he just gets it from me.

Bruh, me and my buddy like spicy food but you put chili powder in some spice mix for like chicken the 3.5 year old and the girlfriend say it's too spicy.

My food literally is only seasoned with salt and pepper and it's SO BORING.

I've taken to adding red pepper flakes to the spaghetti sauce when I make it and shit.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

WWII probably did more than anything to create some harmony. Put people from different backgrounds together in close quarters working for a common good, asked for shared sacrifice from the general population, and gave us a reason to eliminate hypocrisy (to draw a starker contrast with Nazis). We had a top income-tax rate over 90% afterward and produced stuff like my favorite propaganda video. Of course there was a lot of internal conflict, and we had the Red Scare and Randism, etc. College and just living in our great cities is the place where people get that kind of broad exposure, but neither of those are universal.

A war has that kind of effect. But it seems the enthusiasm didn't last against other enemies.
Japan and Germany were popular enemies, particularly Germany because they were white racists and killed a very popular group, unlike a certain NATO ally that still doesn't recognize their own genocide, but I digress.
When it came to fight against Vietnamese Communists, supported by the Soviet Union who was threatening to destroy the US with nuclear weapons (Germany, on the other hand, never seriously intended to take on the US), the nice people at the cities and colleges were chanting Ho Ho Ho Chi Min the NLF is gonna win.
Activists suddenly became skeptical and wanted to see their view point. I mean, razing Dresden and killing European children is fine but how dare you attack little Viet children?

Some leftists were supporting Fidel Castro, the guy who let the Soviets install missiles in his islands to destroy the US.
That's some very weak harmony, indeed, when it shatters the moment you face any enemy that isn't Nazi Germany.

 

[tonni]

That's a lot of nasty stuff but what's the context? It makes no sense being about Heyer, he doesn't even mention her.

Maybe.

 

[JamesRussler]

Fair enough about the thoroughness. I'm asking all the questions so I get that the work burden is unbalanced. Give me another one, though: How are you defining "staying together?" Seems to me that we're in the best time ever economically, and there seems to be (not sure how it's best measured or what the metrics say) an unusual amount of political conflict (probably a result of coming out of a period of unusual harmony), but crime is low.

“Staying together” means that the nation doesn’t split into two or more nations/regions, and isn’t held together through strict authoritarian control (e.g., martial law, political incarcerations, etc.) I agree that we are doing well economically, and that there is an unusual amount of political conflict. Crime is relatively low on average, although it exists regionally at higher levels, and some of it is ignored for political reasons.

The problem is we are in uncharted water. The USA of the 1930’s could survive the Great Depression, but could we?

 

[Trotsky]

Bruh, me and my buddy like spicy food but you put chili powder in some spice mix for like chicken the 3.5 year old and the girlfriend say it's too spicy.

My food literally is only seasoned with salt and pepper and it's SO BORING.

I've taken to adding red pepper flakes to the spaghetti sauce when I make it and shit.

Have you considered running away with a young man from rural India?

 

[Gregolian]

Have you considered running away with a young man from rural India?

No but now I want Butter Chicken.