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War Room Lounge v80: It's gigantic, but will it fill that gap?

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Elizabeth Warren's excellent opening gambit on Medicare for All

Dean Baker is a macroeconomist and senior economist at the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington, which he co-founded. The opinions expressed in this commentary are his own; view more opinion at CNN.

(CNN)Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders have set themselves apart from the Democratic presidential field in explicitly advocating Medicare for All proposals. Under their plans, an expanded Medicare system would fully cover everyone in the country. There would be no co-pays, deductibles and premiums — and no private insurance.

Warren has repeatedly been asked how she would pay for this plan. She had resisted saying that she would raise taxes and insisted that costs for the middle-class would go down. On Friday she outlined how this can be done.


...we should realize this is an opening gambit, not a finished product. The final version of the Affordable Care Act was 2,300 pages when it went to a vote. It is unlikely that a Medicare for All bill will be any shorter.
Warren's proposal is not the final word. But it is an excellent first draft that provides a basis for future debate.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/01/opinions/elizabeth-warren-medicare-for-all-proposal-baker/index.html
 
In this thread, I made a point that a religion that makes factual, testable claims about the world that are false and expected to be believed and defended is teaching adherents to lie. That could plausibly explain why so many of them are habitual liars. I think it's an interesting general issue to explore, but Inga got butthurt that I cited her specifically, and then Heretic did his usual thing, and here we go.
I've had this experience too.

I don't think it's "teaching adherents to lie" but rather changing their orientation toward truthfulness as something to be employed selectively as a tool rather than pursued at the expense of other closely-held propositions.

It's unfortunate because I've noticed many are also strong writers, even though select fragments can seem off or fishy in a way that's tedious to explain.
 
I've had this experience too.

I don't think it's "teaching adherents to lie" but rather changing their orientation toward truthfulness as something to be employed selectively as a tool rather than pursued at the expense of other closely-held propositions.

It's unfortunate because I've noticed many are also strong writers, even though select fragments can seem off or fishy in a way that's tedious to explain.

Lovely to see you here this afternoon, Mr. Bra.
 
I'm going to go with.....


you're about as "Native" as Elizabeth Warren.

Top shelf posting here. A long and thoughtful post by Limbo - one that gave numerous points on which you could purport to agree or disagree - and you decided to go with this. "I'm not mature enough to discuss this issue intelligently, so let me just dispute your ethnic authenticity," as if his analysis couldn't be handled without that consideration at all.

That post is one that would be expected of an unrepentant scumbag, not someone who is interested in productive conversations.
 
Top shelf posting here. A long and thoughtful post by Limbo - one that gave numerous points on which you could purport to agree or disagree - and you decided to go with this. "I'm not mature enough to discuss this issue intelligently, so let me just dispute your ethnic authenticity," as if his analysis couldn't be handled without that consideration at all.

That post is one that would be expected of an unrepentant scumbag, not someone who is interested in productive conversations.
We both know he's not a Native American. Admit it, Trot.
 
Top shelf posting here. A long and thoughtful post by Limbo - one that gave numerous points on which you could purport to agree or disagree - and you decided to go with this. "I'm not mature enough to discuss this issue intelligently, so let me just dispute your ethnic authenticity," as if his analysis couldn't be handled without that consideration at all.

That post is one that would be expected of an unrepentant scumbag, not someone who is interested in productive conversations.

Today's maturity lecture from Mr. I Always Have Dubs, himself.

Lol.
 
Man, I miss the days in the heavies where if you accused a fighter with taking steroids, the mods actually did stuff about it.
 
Top shelf posting here. A long and thoughtful post by Limbo - one that gave numerous points on which you could purport to agree or disagree - and you decided to go with this. "I'm not mature enough to discuss this issue intelligently, so let me just dispute your ethnic authenticity," as if his analysis couldn't be handled without that consideration at all.

That post is one that would be expected of an unrepentant scumbag, not someone who is interested in productive conversations.
Douchers gonna douche, bud lol
 
I hate that we're stuck in our singular lives. I hate I can't be a WV coal miner, I hate that I'm not a tech geek in San Francisco, I hate I'm not an anarchist recovering from heroin who raises the AK in Rojava.

Am I the only one upset that this is the only life we have?
 
Man, I miss the days in the heavies where if you accused a fighter with taking steroids, the mods actually did stuff about it.
Why, Mr. Sid?

Am I the only one upset that this is the only life we have?
Yes.

Douchers gonna douche, bud lol

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I hate that we're stuck in our singular lives. I hate I can't be a WV coal miner, I hate that I'm not a tech geek in San Francisco, I hate I'm not an anarchist recovering from heroin who raises the AK in Rojava.

Am I the only one upset that this is the only life we have?

No. It also bothers me that the opportunity cost of keeping possibilities open is the development of true expertise.

Getting old sucks.
 
That's right, Pet. When you go around claiming to be something you're not, people take notice.
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Why, Mr. Sid?


Yes.



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You realize to even post here we have to be on the spectrum right? Do you realize you've done nothing but fail since you've started? that even when you tried to come of as "one of the gang" we've all fucking laughed at you.

I get mocked a lot for my personal life, probably more than anyone here tbh. I aint a fighter, I get hardcore insults about being a comic. I earned it. I do it. Here we are.

No, I'm not the only one sad about decision, because if ANY other poster made horrible decisions we would fucking be you. Ya bitch made.

No. It also bothers me that the opportunity cost of keeping possibilities open is the development of true expertise.

Getting old sucks.

Doesn't it though? Bruh, I want to be hauling lines in N Dakota as an oil man, I want to be an IRA sniper in Omagh, I want to be a fashion designer in LA.

The greatest quote of all time is "Happiness in Intelligent People Is The Rarest Thing I Know"

IMO.
 
You realize to even post here we have to be on the spectrum right? Do you realize you've done nothing but fail since you've started? that even when you tried to come of as "one of the gang" we've all fucking laughed at you.

I get mocked a lot for my personal life, probably more than anyone here tbh. I aint a fighter, I get hardcore insults about being a comic. I earned it. I do it. Here we are.

No, I'm not the only one sad about decision, because if ANY other poster made horrible decisions we would fucking be you. Ya bitch made.
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What the hell did I just read?

It's obvious you still haven't taken my advice, Nicholas. You are not well.
 
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What the hell did I just read?

It's obvious you still haven't taken my advice, Nicholas. You are not well.

lmao, I'm doing amazing you retard, that's my complaint. My life is too good and I'm worried that panic won't carry my momentum.

You really need to know who the fuck you're talking to.
 
Doesn't it though? Bruh, I want to be hauling lines in N Dakota as an oil man, I want to be an IRA sniper in Omagh, I want to be a fashion designer in LA.

The greatest quote of all time is "Happiness in Intelligent People Is The Rarest Thing I Know"

IMO.

You could also be a prisoner in someone's basement awaiting your daily dose of rape. In a seat at the hospital as your child slowly dies. Afflicted with any number of physical or mental deformities. You could be waiguren.



I've had it good enough, that 1 is enough. I'd leave that kind of dreaming to others more deserving.
 
You could also be a prisoner in someone's basement awaiting your daily dose of rape. In a seat at the hospital as your child slowly dies. Afflicted with any number of physical or mental deformities. You could be waiguren.



I've had it good enough, that 1 is enough. I'd leave that kind of dreaming to others more deserving.

Pain is contextual though, that basement prisoner feels the same pain a homeless person does when they can't hustle a dollar. Survival is contextual. We all suffer, that's what makes us human.
 
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