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LogicalInsanity said:
Greatest show of all time.

I wonder how @nac386 feels about it...considering he's a denizen of that city.
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LogicalInsanity said:
Greatest show of all time.

I wonder how @nac386 feels about it...considering he's a denizen of that city.
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The show is incredible. It's very realistic, and does a good job of creating 3-dimensional characters out of people who society often sees as 1-dimensional. Reality is never as simple as people want it to be.

I still have a lot of friends in Baltimore, but I would not personally live in that city at my age. There are some cool neighborhoods, and a few more that are also on their way to being very nice, and I know a lot of people who make a whole lot of money who genuinely love living there. I have a friend who is an engineer, married to a Doctor, and they just bought a house in Baltimore city. They love it. But it's just not for me, not to that extent. So I bought a house in a very nice suburb, and I can choose when to visit the nearby cities. When I have kids, I don't have to move because I already live in a great school district.

Up through college I was more of DC guy, and the last 5 or 6 years I've kind of reconnected with that city. Partially because my long-term girlfriend works there and used to live there, which of course means that I was living there half the time (she has since moved in with me). But even now, we spend twice as much time in DC as we do in Baltimore.

But I'll say this about Baltimore. When you know a place well, you start to be a bit disgusted by people who use that place as a punchline who don't really know shit about it. I have friends in Chicago who feel the same way about that city. 99.99% of the people who talk about Baltimore and Chicago don't actually know anything about the cities, they just like using the talking point. Those people are creeps. Chicago is an incredible city, and in a lot of ways it is one of the greatest cities in this country. Baltimore is much more troubled, but it's not just a talking point for dummies on the internet, it's a place that many great people call home. Being poor does not make you a bad person and should not make you a subject of ridicule.
 
This is how people start saying things have gotten out of hand

 
So Lil Nas X has topped the US charts for 17 weeks (record) with the song 'Old Town Road', and I have never heard the song or even heard of the artist.
 
@LogicalInsanity It'd be awesome to see a new season of the Wire, with the updated version of Baltimore. The violence is still there, but there are more Yuppies in more areas. Harbor East is very nice now, and the presence of Underarmour Headquarters in Locust Point has turned that entire area into a really nice place to live. But at the same time we are post-Freddie Gray, there's just as much corruption in the school system and maybe even more in the police department.
 
JDragon said:
So Lil Nas X has topped the US charts for 17 weeks (record) with the song 'Old Town Road', and I have never heard the song or even heard of the artist.
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I saw Elvis Costello the other night in DC, and Blondie opened for him. Blondie played that "Old Town Road" song, and that was the first time I'd heard more than 10 seconds of it.
 
nac386 said:
@LogicalInsanity It'd be awesome to see a new season of the Wire, with the updated version of Baltimore. The violence is still there, but there are more Yuppies in more areas. Harbor East is very nice now, and the presence of Underarmour Headquarters in Locust Point has turned that entire area into a really nice place to live. But at the same time we are post-Freddie Gray, there's just as much corruption in the school system and maybe even more in the police department.
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The thing that I think would be interesting if The Wire did a season now is would they use the same characters? Cause if so then Bunk Moreland is probably close to retirement, Lester and McNulty are out of the picture entirely and that sleeze bag colonel that becomes Commissioner is probably dead or retired.
 
Gregolian said:
The thing that I think would be interesting if The Wire did a season now is would they use the same characters? Cause if so then Bunk Moreland is probably close to retirement, Lester and McNulty are out of the picture entirely and that sleeze bag colonel that becomes Commissioner is probably dead or retired.
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It would probably have to be a reboot with all new characters. It's probably a bad idea because reboots never seem to go well. But maybe they could call it something different, but have it written and produced by the same team.
 
nac386 said:
It would probably have to be a reboot with all new characters. It's probably a bad idea because reboots never seem to go well. But maybe they could call it something different, but have it written and produced by the same team.
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I think they could do it with some of the same characters around like Carver and Chema (sp) in more leadership style positions as like tertiary characters the way that Daniels wife was for a lot of the show.
 
Jack V Savage said:
I think "capitalism/liberalism" is fair anyway (liberalism is broader than capitalism so they're not quite synonymous but they do go together). And all forms of liberalism probably do lead to weakened extended-family connections, though there are also some aspects that counteract that.
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I keep seeing this assumption without the data to give it credence. For example, the survey @Kafir-kun could be skewed by any number of factors because of how it is worded, in my opinion. I'm not so vested in the subject as to really go further with this. I think that our differences may genuinely be semantic but I really don't have time to go back over all that was said to root out my misperception, particularly of KK's position.

I'll take the 'L' on this one just for the sake of closure, but experience tells me a Roman Catholic Irish family is not spreading hither and yon due to ideology.
 
Crazy Diamond said:
I keep seeing this assumption without the data to give it credence. For example, the survey @Kafir-kun could be skewed by any number of factors because of how it is worded, in my opinion. I'm not so vested in the subject as to really go further with this. I think that our differences may genuinely be semantic but I really don't have time to go back over all that was said to root out my misperception, particularly of KK's position.

I'll take the 'L' on this one just for the sake of closure, but experience tells me a Roman Catholic Irish family is not spreading hither and yon due to ideology.
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Yeah, it's all speculation as far as I know, and I could see it going the other way.
 
Kafir-kun said:
The difference there is only 1% though, within the margin of error

Here's the About the Survey section. This Pew data set draws from two surveys but the one that data set is drawn from has a 1.1% margin of error. Also I didn't say the survey clearly shows a difference. I said its clear between social liberals and social conservatives which are more likely to value the family and I was still right about that despite the difference not being as big as I expected.

I don't see it that way at all and I think you're reading too much into it merely because of the mention of liberalism alongside something seemingly bad. Like I said, typing it out "capitalism/liberalism" suggests that his use of the term liberalism is in reference to it as an economic system and in the context of the rest of the tweets that's they only way they make sense. Other people made the same assumption you did in response to his tweets to be fair but I don't see how the tweets make sense that way.
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But were you right enough to agree with the tweets that liberalism ruined ththe family unit? Ruined? Contributed to the facilitation of the immoral actions of the rich to the detriment of the poor, I can accept. Heaping blame on it as the cause will take a lot of convincing for me to accept, and I would save you the effort on this topic.
 
JDragon said:
So Lil Nas X has topped the US charts for 17 weeks (record) with the song 'Old Town Road', and I have never heard the song or even heard of the artist.
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So your reaction to the bombshell that he's gay was the same as mine: "who?"
 
Crazy Diamond said:
But were you right enough to agree with the tweets that liberalism ruined ththe family unit? Ruined? Contributed to the facilitation of the immoral actions of the rich to the detriment of the poor, I can accept. Heaping blame on it as the cause will take a lot of convincing for me to accept, and I would save you the effort on this topic.
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Yes I think liberalism, in the sense of the economic system which promotes a deregulated, liberalized economy, tends to fracture the family as it encourage the free flow of labor which in practice means families splitting up for work. Though there's certainly efficiency gained from that I think there are many benefits that aren't quantified by the market that are lost despite being worth keeping.
 
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