War Room Lounge v55: Do Underage Racial Slurs Truly Have Free Will?

[LMP]

This documentary is actually pretty fucked up and sad.

Ill have to check it out later.

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

Fight me for the Nobel @Fawlty C. Dennett.

It's not like you can experience the satisfaction anyway.

 

[Benny Viper]

I'd feel like Im fucking a child if I was having sex with a 16 year old. I don't get it. It's gross. I'm 26 btw.

 

[Lord Coke]

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

The racial slurs thing is a topic I don't care to post too much about. I originally classified Trump's rant as racist-esque as opposed to outright racist.

The difference is smack-dab-in-your--face racism is yelling out "I believe you are inferior because of the race you belong to."

People tend to not go out on the record like that any more. There is subtler racism out there.

It's like the 14? words debate. There is nothing inherently wrong with what the 14 words suggest, but if you put a bunch of obvious racists in a room, or a club, and that's how they kick off every meeting, parroting those words is a clear indirect message.

In Germany, the Nazi salute I believe is outlawed/against the law. Nobody can outright claim that an arm motion is in itself a racist gesture. Someone could make that arm movement and not even know what it means. Buuuuuuuuut, if you're at a convention and a bunch of people who do know what it means make that gesture to another, guess fucking what, chances are you're in a convention of racists making a racist gesture. The plausible deniability of "oh hey, we just all like the gesture, the way it stretches out our arms is cool!" just doesn't pass the sniff test. So if I have someone doing the Nazi salute as my avatar, and someone takes offense to it, it's pretty cheap to say "oh, it's just an arm gesture, it ain't racist. Don't be offended." Everyone knows you're being a fucktard.

 

[Lead]

Let’s try to keep that UFC topic to the heavies. It’s just going to cause trouble here. A new lounge thread started so hopefully we can move on to some different topics.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Wai just tagged and asked for an apology from me because Trujillo only sent pics of his junk and a jerk off vid to a girl he knew was 16 despite her multiple times telling him to stop.

See guys. It was no big deal. Same as a pair of tits in a girls gone wild vid you stumbled across belonging to a 17 year old without your knowledge.

... A 16 year old being initially attracted to a 35 year old man who pled guilty to domestic abuse multiple times because he was a "celebrity" giving her attention sounds like the exact reason we have age of consent laws because she doesn't yet know better than to put herself into vulnerable situations.

I think he's focusing too much on the age. In his mind she's 16 which is the age of consent in many states so its not as egregious as it would be if the victim was like 13 or 11. But that's kind of short sighted I think, we're still talking about a grown ass man sending images and videos of his genitals to a teenager.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Let’s try to keep that UFC topic to the heavies. It’s just going to cause trouble here. A new lounge thread started so hopefully we can move on to some different topics.

Okay I swear I just missed this post when I posted the one above.

 

[waiguoren]

@HockeyBjj

The moderators are not allowing me to respond to you or to discuss this matter at all. Interesting that we have 1984 tactics on this forum. I suppose we could continue via PM, but I'm not motivated. Anyways, I believe in due process and defending the accused even when we suspect guilt. I respect your view but I think it's wrong to jump to conclusions about guilt.

 

[Lead]

Okay I swear I just missed this post when I posted the one above.

I always do a delete late while someone is already in the process of replying. It’s actually hard to stop a derail in a normal thread for this reason.

 

[My Spot]

I think he's focusing too much on the age. In his mind she's 16 which is the age of consent in many states so its not as egregious as it would be if the victim was like 13 or 11. But that's kind of short sighted I think, we're still talking about a grown ass man sending images and videos of his genitals to a teenager.

Looks like the age of consent in CO is 17 though.

 

[waiguoren]

Looks like the age of consent in CO is 17 though.

The main point is about presuming guilt before such matters are adjudicated. A secondary point was about certain Sherbros attacking people for actions that some of them have undoubtedly engaged in (wittingly and unwittingly). I can't spell things out in any more details or this post will do down the memory hole.

 

[Trotsky]

@HockeyBjj

The moderators are not allowing me to respond to you or to discuss this matter at all. Interesting that we have 1984 tactics on this forum. I suppose we could continue via PM, but I'm not motivated. Anyways, I believe in due process and defending the accused even when we suspect guilt. I respect your view but I think it's wrong to jump to conclusions about guilt.

@HockeyBjj For the love of butts, do not indulge Wai on starting a PM thread on this subject. Once you birth that beast, it will grow to swallow whole you and all you hold dear and arousing.

 

[LMP]

That Fascist Deep State mod @Lead destroying our freedom of speech, like always. Lets the people speak!

 

[HockeyBjj]

@HockeyBjj

The moderators are not allowing me to respond to you or to discuss this matter at all. Interesting that we have 1984 tactics on this forum. I suppose we could continue via PM, but I'm not motivated. Anyways, I believe in due process and defending the accused even when we suspect guilt. I respect your view but I think it's wrong to jump to conclusions about guilt.

Wasn't about guilt. It was about your disturbing attempt to draw similarity to someone possibly unknowingly at some point seeing a girl's tits who happened to be 17 without your knowledge or searching it out; to Trujillo's felony charges for knowingly sharing sexually explicit content with a minor.

Night and day difference

 

[Trotsky]

@Fawlty I know you're into GOT, but including a video of Lord Petyr Baelish as an instructor of free will philosophy is pretty corny and reductive.

 

[Lead]

I wash my hands of this. I tried to kill it. You all are on your own here.

Good day

 

[HockeyBjj]

@HockeyBjj For the love of butts, do not indulge Wai on starting a PM thread on this subject. Once you birth that beast, it will grow to swallow whole you and all you hold dear and arousing.

Even I'm not this stupid. I just don't appreciate his attempts to get the last word in

 

[waiguoren]

Wasn't about guilt. It was about your disturbing attempt to draw similarity to someone possibly unknowingly at some point seeing a girl's tits who happened to be 17 without your knowledge or searching it out; to Trujillo's felony charges for knowingly sharing sexually explicit content with a minor.

Night and day difference

No sir. I made two separate points. One was about hypocrisy. The other was about innocence until guilt is proven. Are you aware that charges =/= convictions? Are you aware that you don't know that the person you mentioned was aware of the information you listed? I have to write in broad terms or my post will be memory holed. I think you are smart enough to understand this, but it seems like you are preventing yourself from seeing it for some reason.

 

[Sycho Sid]

No sir. I made two separate points. One was about hypocrisy. The other was about innocence until guilt is proven. Are you aware that charges =/= convictions? Are you aware that you don't know that the person you mentioned was aware of the information you listed? I have to write in broad terms or my post will be memory holed. I think you are smart enough to understand this, but it seems like you are preventing yourself from seeing it for some reason.

Lead asked this to be dropped. Please honor his request and either take it to PM or the OT