War Room Lounge V44: Backup Whores, or Back Up, Whores?

[Prokofievian]

I don't think you have to have full tenure to be considered a professor, that is a bit of a high standard. Anyone with a PhD who teaches at a college or university is a professor to me. Of course, not all professors are equal.

Of course it is a high standard. It is the highest standard. A PhD is a very high standard (in most fields). In Germany, for example, you cannot call yourself Dr. if your PhD comes from somewhere else than Germany (legally). Professor states that among the thousands of PhDs, you were one of the very few who made it the rank of professor. Just teaching courses at a university doesn't make you one. Professors lead research groups, advise and graduate PhD students, including acquiring funding for their research, and shape the course of research in their field. Instructors instruct.

It's of course not a perfect system, and everyone in academia has a story of someone with full tenure who was a moron, but it's important and should be respected IMO. I'll note that you can be a professor without a PhD though, like Freeman Dyson. But he's a professor because of those other things I mentioned above.

 

[Islam Imamate]

We're getting past the point that, pessimism about the intellectual flexibility or arrogance of educated people aside, the dude isn't a college graduate and never taught anywhere.

I don't find it that unbelievable. Not that I even care, to me he's trash either way.

Of course it is a high standard. It is the highest standard. A PhD is a very high standard (in most fields). In Germany, for example, you cannot call yourself Dr. if your PhD comes from somewhere else than Germany (legally). Professor states that among the thousands of PhDs, you were one of the very few who made it the rank of professor. Just teaching courses at a university doesn't make you one. Professors lead research groups, advise and graduate PhD students, including acquiring funding for their research, and shape the course of research in their field. Instructors instruct.

It's of course not a perfect system, and everyone in academia has a story of someone with full tenure who was a moron, but it's important and should be respected IMO. I'll note that you can be a professor without a PhD though, like Freeman Dyson. But he's a professor because of those other things I mentioned above.

So you wouldn't consider a person with a PhD who taught at a university as an adjunct a professor?

 

[luckyshot]

Poem of the day by John Betjeman:

Slough
Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough!
It isn't fit for humans now,
There isn't grass to graze a cow.
Swarm over, Death!
Come, bombs and blow to smithereens
Those air -conditioned, bright canteens,
Tinned fruit, tinned meat, tinned milk, tinned beans,
Tinned minds, tinned breath.

Mess up the mess they call a town-
A house for ninety-seven down
And once a week a half a crown
For twenty years.

And get that man with double chin
Who'll always cheat and always win,
Who washes his repulsive skin
In women's tears:

And smash his desk of polished oak
And smash his hands so used to stroke
And stop his boring dirty joke
And make him yell.

But spare the bald young clerks who add
The profits of the stinking cad;
It's not their fault that they are mad,
They've tasted Hell.

It's not their fault they do not know
The birdsong from the radio,
It's not their fault they often go
To Maidenhead

And talk of sport and makes of cars
In various bogus-Tudor bars
And daren't look up and see the stars
But belch instead.

In labour-saving homes, with care
Their wives frizz out peroxide hair
And dry it in synthetic air
And paint their nails.

Come, friendly bombs and fall on Slough
To get it ready for the plough.
The cabbages are coming now;
The earth exhales.

 

[Prokofievian]

So you wouldn't consider a person with a PhD who taught at a university as an adjunct a professor?

No. An adjunct may have even done good work in their career, but no. It's an abuse of language. I've seen associate professors (a rank above assistant, which is infinitely closer to professor than adjunct) correct others who referred to them simply as ''professor.'' I know one guy who was on tenure track for 10 years before finally being given tenure. An adjunct isn't even on the track. I doubt he would say anything, but he would be justified in taking exception to the use of his title by someone who hadn't earned it.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

There are two ways that I take up more space in your head than you do in mine. One is that you try to engage me more than I'm interested in, and the second is that your capacity is smaller.

it was only a matter fo time before this argument became as capacity measuring contest

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I don't think you have to have full tenure to be considered a professor, that is a bit of a high standard. Anyone with a PhD who teaches at a college or university is a professor to me. Of course, not all professors are equal.

I was with you on this, but then I took an arrow to the knee looked it up on wikipedia. :

Professor (commonly abbreviated as Prof.)[1] is an academic rank at universities and other post-secondary education and research institutions in most countries. Literally, professor derives from Latin as a "person who professes" being usually an expert in arts or sciences, a teacher of the highest rank.[1]

In most systems of academic ranks the word "Professor" only refers to the most senior academic position, sometimes informally known as "full professor".[2][3] In some countries or institutions, the word professor is also used in titles of lower ranks such as associate professor and assistant professor; this is particularly the case in the United States, where the word professor is sometimes used colloquially to refer to anyone in an academic post.[4] This colloquial usage would be considered incorrect among most other academic communities. However, the unqualified title Professor designated with a capital letter usually refers to a full professor also in English language usage.
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I think I've been using governor (guv'ner) wrong, too....

 

[Jack V Savage]

Your characterization of me is pretty far off, but I get that you have to fire back. I'm certainly more liberal today than I was earlier in my life (and you would find my life a bit interesting, as I'm sure your life has been), but that doesn't have anything to do with edgy exciting school stuff (what would that even mean?).

I don't think you're being honest about this place not being serious to you. You're here as much as anyone, and you definitely take NoDak's sexuality very seriously (which everybody has noticed, and I also remember you crying like a bitch that I was racist, for days lol), and you spend lots of your life here just trying to get attention by being a degenerate fool.

So you can save the "it's not serious" because it clearly is to you. And it's not wrong to take a place somewhat seriously when you devote a lot of your time to it. That's not really the issue, this game where people pretend something isn't important to them when it obviously is, it's really that you're a godawful shitposter (which isn't so bad on its own), but also have no sense of humor and add nothing. With your background and education, you could obviously be a much better poster. But you come off like you're completely uneducated and well below normal intelligence.

Not following this whole thing, but if someone is saying that it takes them extra work to not sound like a moron (or that they think that anyone who doesn't sound like a moron must be working hard on it), they're saying that they are a moron. And the idea that trying hard is bad is poison to our culture anyway. I mean, I get the audience here is small and not influential so it doesn't make sense to put serious work into it, but if someone puts some in anyway, I appreciate it. And people should always put work into making themselves better and being right.

 

[Trotsky]

Not following this whole thing, but if someone is saying that it takes them extra work to not sound like a moron (or that they think that anyone who doesn't sound like a moron must be working hard on it), they're saying that they are a moron. And the idea that trying hard is bad is poison to our culture anyway. I mean, I get the audience here is small and not influential so it doesn't make sense to put serious work into it, but if someone puts some in anyway, I appreciate it. And people should always put work into making themselves better and being right.

Nice grammarly post. I can't believe you translate all of your posts through grammarly. You are so pathetic.



(I have actually been accused by a poster many times of using grammarly, which I guess is an automatic grammar software and sounds like something that would be chronically inaccurate/insufficient)

 

[BarryDillon]

That’s fucking hilarious that you actually went and looked that up. Fucking lol. You take this shit waaaaaay too seriously....but you must know that already.

And now you’re just derailing this lounge with you’re bullshit, I’ll not be responding to you in this lounge again.

*your

 

[BarryDillon]

Weed munchies makes gastrointestinal whores of us all, the way alcohol makes a homely chick the centroid of lust.

 

[Trotsky]

Has anyone ever had a country fried steak that wasn't absolutely fucking disgusting?

 

[Jack V Savage]

Nice grammarly post. I can't believe you translate all of your posts through grammarly. You are so pathetic.

(I have actually been accused by a poster many times of using grammarly, which I guess is an automatic grammar software and sounds like something that would be chronically inaccurate/insufficient)

I had grammarly installed in my brain.

BTW, for people who care about that stuff, I thought this was really great:

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/232363/dreyers-english-by-benjamin-dreyer/9780812995701/

Kind of remedial for many of us, probably, but well-written and funny, and I'd bet that even people who studied the subject and read this kind of thing a lot and think they know it all, there will be one or two bits you weren't aware of.

 

[Trotsky]

I had grammarly installed in my brain.

BTW, for people who care about that stuff, I thought this was really great:

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/232363/dreyers-english-by-benjamin-dreyer/9780812995701/

Kind of remedial for many of us, probably, but well-written and funny, and I'd bet that even people who studied the subject and read this kind of thing a lot and think they know it all, there will be one or two bits you weren't aware of.

You....read a book about...grammar?


Dude....nerd.

 

[Jack V Savage]

You....read a book about...grammar?


Dude....nerd.

This is my response to that:



But Dreyer's English really may be the best of them.

 

[PEB]

 

[Anung Un Rama]

@Fawlty Don't you use grammarly?

 

[BarryDillon]

@Fawlty Don't you use grammarly?

Look at me. I'm grammarly now.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

 

[Higus]

My mom’s side is Jewish. I’m not religious, but I was raised in both Jewish and Catholic households. The guilt is just... divine.

I had a friend that has Jewish and Catholic parents. She said that she got the Catholic Guilt and the Jewish neurosis.

 

[Sketch]

Lol I don’t have 2 PHDs. I didn’t snap either, I have however spent a shitload of time outside of the USA so I ha e quite a different perspective than a bunch of libtards who sit on the Internet all day looking for shit to cry about.

If anybody comes across as crazy and stupid, it’s the liberals who think they are saving the world or making any difference at all while circle jerking it on internet echo chambers. You’ll get that one day but since you’re just now going to college in you’re late 30s, all the shit that kids think is cool when they are like 20 then grow out of must seem new, exciting and edgy to you. It’s ok though, it’s never too late, you might grow out of your liberal stupidity in your late 40s/early 50s.


Honestly though, if you want a serious answer to your question, then here it is: the Internet is not real life, sherdog is not real life, I’m serious all day in my real actual life, this is a place where I cut loose a bit for the sole reason that it isn’t real life. I swear some of you guys must not get out much and few like this forum is representative of the real world, pretty sad.