War Room Lounge V43: STEM is Overrated

[Andy Capp]

Interesting read on McConnell

One paragraph doesn't do that piece justice, but this,
"Even that was another campaign finance story. Leonard Blavatnik is a Russian-American dual citizen who made his fortune in postcommunist Russia. He had a history of donating modest sums to candidates from both parties until he became, suddenly, an extraordinarily generous supporter of Mitch McConnell’s political machine in 2015, The Dallas Morning News reported. From 2015 to 2017, Blavatnik steered $3.5 million to McConnell’s PAC. An offshore holding company co-owned by Blavatnik and billionaire Viktor Vekselberg owns 26.5 percent of Rusal, the aluminum giant controlled by oligarch Oleg Deripaska, who is regularly said to be the lobbying client most responsible for Paul Manafort getting in trouble. McConnell was first briefed about Russian attempts to sabotage or interfere with the presidential election in September 2016. In October, his PAC accepted another $1 million from Blavatnik. The total haul was only made possible by the campaign finance system created not by some Senate majority, but by our conservative Supreme Court in its landmark 2010 Citizens United ruling. This year, McConnell fought some opposition in his own party to lift sanctions that had been placed on Rusal by the Treasury Department."

Even if you take everything else in the piece as just "politics as usual in 21st century Washington" (which I don't but still), this paragraph shows obvious corruption, IMO. That people like him get re-elected time after time is really stain on the country.

 

[Fawlty]

One paragraph doesn't do that piece justice, but this,
"Even that was another campaign finance story. Leonard Blavatnik is a Russian-American dual citizen who made his fortune in postcommunist Russia. He had a history of donating modest sums to candidates from both parties until he became, suddenly, an extraordinarily generous supporter of Mitch McConnell’s political machine in 2015, The Dallas Morning News reported. From 2015 to 2017, Blavatnik steered $3.5 million to McConnell’s PAC. An offshore holding company co-owned by Blavatnik and billionaire Viktor Vekselberg owns 26.5 percent of Rusal, the aluminum giant controlled by oligarch Oleg Deripaska, who is regularly said to be the lobbying client most responsible for Paul Manafort getting in trouble. McConnell was first briefed about Russian attempts to sabotage or interfere with the presidential election in September 2016. In October, his PAC accepted another $1 million from Blavatnik. The total haul was only made possible by the campaign finance system created not by some Senate majority, but by our conservative Supreme Court in its landmark 2010 Citizens United ruling. This year, McConnell fought some opposition in his own party to lift sanctions that had been placed on Rusal by the Treasury Department."

Even if you take everything else in the piece as just "politics as usual in 21st century Washington" (which I don't but still), this paragraph shows obvious corruption, IMO. That people like him get re-elected time after time is really stain on the country.

Hey just another Republican taking Scrooge McDuck dives in Putin money, nothing to fucking see here.

 

[Andy Capp]

Corrine va Ferguson is going to be awesome. Cowboy is doing a good job keeping the LW division relevant

Cowboy Corinne, a new hero from Disney?

 

[JDragon]

I wondered that myself and looked it up. Spike slams are legal when your opponent has a submission on. From the unified rules:

"It should be noted when a fighter is placed into a submission hold by their opponent, if that fighter is capable of elevating their opponent they may bring that opponent down in any fashion they desire because they are not in control of their opponent’s body. The fighter who is attempting the submission can either adjust their position, or let go of their hold before being slammed to the canvas."

I think that also implies that "headbutt slams" are legal, or at least the foul is not enforceable when in a sub, like Rampage when he headbutted Arona from a triangle choke in Pride.

Interesting. So Rose put it on herself by overcommitting to this sub. I think this is evident already, but it now even has its expression in the rules.

 

[Andy Capp]

Interesting. So Rose put it on herself by overcommitting to this sub. I think this is evident already, but it now even has its expression in the rules.

Yes, I don't know how recently it was added to the ruleset, but it has been discussed on air by Rogan (and likely others) for ever. The person holding the sub is responsible for the outcome if they don't let go because it's obviously quite easy to prevent if you're willing to release the sub.

I've noticed there's an been an interesting evolution in how fighters deal with that situation. IIRC, Rampage knocking out Arona wasn't enough to convince everyone that they should not allow themselves to be slammed on its own, but, after a couple more slam knockouts, fighters started being more defensive in those situations and loosening or letting go of their sub attempts almost all the time.

Maybe due to too many blows to the head, it seems like after a while they forgot why they stopped allowing themselves to be slammed. I noticed at first it was just a few guys who like to prove how tough they are who refused to let go and survived getting slammed. Then, as though people thought you just don't get slam knockouts anymore or something, they all stopped defending and started taking the slams. I didn't see the fight, but it will be interesting to see which way the wind blows in the aftermath.

Disclaimer: I have hardly watched any MMA for months, and irregularly before that for many more, so this fight might be a relative one-off these days. The above is based upon c. 2016-17 and earlier.

 

[Andy Capp]

Anybody hungry?

 

[Sketch]

Anybody hungry?

Does Trotsky run this account?

 

[JDragon]

Cowboy Corinne, a new hero from Disney?

SJWism is really destroying our culture, I think it's the satanic Jews

 

[HockeyBjj]

Silver lining of the far alt righters?

Quite a few of them seem to be very anti war in the middle east. The Iran fleet thread seems to have a who's who of @Trotsky's most hated list and they're all against the warmongering TS

Also, can any of you lefties do anything to curb war dos anjos? I know more than one of you has pull to get people banned or at least dubbed with thread making privileges revoked

 

[Lead]

Rose won 1 round...

It looked pretty one sided up to that slam. Not a 10-8 but she certainly was doing better beforehand.

 

[Lead]

I know more than one of you has pull to get people banned or at least dubbed with thread making privileges revoked

That isn’t accurate and don’t belive anyone who claims to.

 

[Sketch]

That isn’t accurate and don’t belive anyone who claims to.

 

[HockeyBjj]

Christ, what a dumb ending. Instant rematch imo

Lol @ UFC announcers

Cruz- Nope. You can't lift there. It's impossible to lift because of that Kimura grip

Proceeds to lift and slam and win the belt

The round and a half it lasted tho was some seriously good wmma.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Silver lining of the far alt righters?

Quite a few of them seem to be very anti war in the middle east. The Iran fleet thread seems to have a who's who of @Trotsky's most hated list and they're all against the warmongering TS

Also, can any of you lefties do anything to curb war dos anjos? I know more than one of you has pull to get people banned or at least dubbed with thread making privileges revoked

I like the thinking here. You should curb Yorkist, Happy Man, Palis, Whippy McGee, trac209, Sketch, PhoenixNikky, Lucy Alpha, octopus (just randomly taking names off my ignore list). That would be a good exchange if it were doable.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

mispost

 

[HockeyBjj]

That isn’t accurate and don’t belive anyone who claims to.

https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/151727111/

It's still way too much of a trigger point, even after I got RR canned.

Locked thread wouldn't let me just normal quote

 

[HockeyBjj]

I like the thinking here. You should curb Yorkist, Happy Man, Palis, Whippy McGee, trac209, Sketch, PhoenixNikky, Lucy Alpha, octopus (just randomly taking names off my ignore list). That would be a good exchange if it were doable.

I don't know about trac, he seems a good poster unless I'm missing him up with someone else. But yes to the rest of it could be done haha.

Also, half the names you rattled off there are exactly the people most bashing TS for saying war with Iran is justifiable. So they've got that going for them.

 

[Lead]

https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/151727111/
Locked thread wouldn't let me just normal quote

@Fawlty didn’t get RR canned or any poster banned. Nonstaff posters don’t have infraction or ban functionality. Like I said, comments like that shouldn’t be believed or taken seriously.

 

[Lead]

Lol @ UFC announcers

Cruz- Nope. You can't lift there. It's impossible to lift because of that Kimura grip

Proceeds to lift and slam and win the belt

The round and a half it lasted tho was some seriously good wmma.

I still enjoy Cruz cause now he’s starting to be an ass to DC with Rogan out. I think he was accurate on the slams cause the kimura was still locked in which would be the reason to no do it but he should’ve clarified further. I like that table however cause DC has good wrestling insight and Cruz has good striking insights.

 

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