War Room Lounge v40: Mixed Feelings about Natural Disasters

[PolishHeadlock2]

Wow. Trump Jr. said in the Trump Tower meeting that there was nothing that could be done now but they could revisit after they win, if they win. That's another issue that wai was wrong about.

Also for anyone interested this is what our original bet was supposed to be about.

I obviously bungled reading the terms he officially proposed but I still think there is a decent chance I can snatch a moral victory. It will be interesting to see if Cohen has more to offer on the gaps and see what those other criminal cases unveil.

 

[kpt018]

Still gotta be tough to read that and explain why he is your No.1.

I can write damning stuff in a similar fashion about Bernie and Warren too. I never said he was perfect.

And be more accurate please. He is my "way too early" favorite.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Is it, tho?

I guess it shouldn't be. It's hard to get past the habit of thinking that reality is a real constraint, that people might spin but they aren't inclined to outright lie.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Well, it's true. You are a white boy with a drinking problem who plays a Native American professor on the internet. Don't get me wrong, I really like you. Same way I like all the "lawyers" I see around here.



I posted quite a bit during that time, just not as much as usual. I moved halfway across the world during that period as well and it took me a while to get settled.

Lol he's got you dead to rights @Limbo Pete

 

[kpt018]

Oh man, that piece is pathological and was written to be as unfair as it could possibly be. I want to see what he comes up with for his platform. I get that he comes off as a bit out of touch and non-committal, but I'm not quivering afraid of it in my corner like one Nathan J. Robinson lol.

And given that it still isn't that bad. I mean, as an 18 year old attending Harvard, upon his arrival he didn't think enough about the homeless? I can forgive that!

The piece lays out some valid concerns but if that's the worst he's still very solid and capable.

I thought you and @kpt018 were policy wonk guys? Now you're loving this guy for the cut of his jib?

I am. He will have to hash out a specific policy agenda for sure.

 

[Fawlty]

Lol he's got you dead to rights @Limbo Pete

RIP in peace Limbo Bud.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Also for anyone interested this is what our original bet was supposed to be about.

I obviously bungled reading the terms he officially proposed but I still think there is a decent chance I can snatch a moral victory. It will be interesting to see if Cohen has more to offer on the gaps and see what those other criminal cases unveil.

I made the point in the bet thread that angle-shooting defeats the whole purpose. I think ideally, we should all be constantly guessing about the probability of things and should use those different guesses to create bets, and then we should update our thinking based on the results. But wai disrupts that and gets it back to just tribalist chest-thumping.

 

[JDragon]

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/4/...y-gave-blood-sample-to-someone-not-with-usada

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

And given that it still isn't that bad. I mean, as an 18 year old attending Harvard, upon his arrival he didn't think enough about the homeless? I can forgive that!

The piece lays out some valid concerns but if that's the worst he's still very solid and capable.



I am. He will have to hash out a specific policy agenda for sure.

I think he would be the perfect running mate for Warren

 

[Fawlty]

I made the point in the bet thread that angle-shooting defeats the whole purpose. I think ideally, we should all be constantly guessing about the probability of things and should use those different guesses to create bets, and then we should update our thinking based on the results. But wai disrupts that and gets it back to just tribalist chest-thumping.

I'd be more comfortable with using the word "tapping" instead of "thumping." As one might scold a rambunctious house bird. We don't need to add "physical" to the classes of injuries being suffered here imo.

 

[kpt018]

I think he would be the perfect running mate for Warren

Agreed!

 

[Higus]

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/4/...y-gave-blood-sample-to-someone-not-with-usada

A week from now, his blood is going to be all over a crime scene

 

[Trotsky]

No shit, my god.

"Purity tests" = basically analyzing and vetting candidates in an election. You'd think that all Democrats, particularly those belonging to the wing with a professed-at-length commitment to experience and institutional competence, would be open to attempts to analyze a presidential candidate with such a skimpy resume and short list of policy prescriptions as Buttigieg. I'd say it's better to get it out sooner rather than later.

Oh man, that piece is pathological and was written to be as unfair as it could possibly be. I want to see what he comes up with for his platform. I get that he comes off as a bit out of touch and non-committal, but I'm not quivering afraid of it in my corner like one Nathan J. Robinson lol.

Robinson's piece wasn't "quivering afraid." It was being sufficiently (which is maximally) critical of a person trying to become the most powerful person in the world. When someone lacks both policy and purpose, it should be a red flag regardless, and Buttigeig's continued "golly well, the moment just seems to demand someone of my particular skill set that I can't really describe" doesn't instill confidence in persons such as the author or myself.

Also, to be clear I haven't read Buttigieg's biography, but what I have read about it makes me wonder how it is being compared to Dreams of My Father by Barack Obama, which was a book I have read and one that was pretty wonderful.

What the hell is going on over there with you two

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I am. He will have to hash out a specific policy agenda for sure.

But until he does...he's your number one? You must recognize how inconsistent that position is.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I can write damning stuff in a similar fashion about Bernie and Warren too. I never said he was perfect.

And be more accurate please. He is my "way too early" favorite.

Ninja-edit, please. edit: that wasn't an ninja edit, my bad, it was just a post I missed.

here is your quote from https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/pelosi-throwing-shade-at-aoc.3947073/page-3

See, this is just a pathetic misrepresentation of my views. For the record, my top two candidates right now are Pete Buttigieg and Elizabeth Warren. It's just a lot easier for you to call me an "establishment Democrat" or a "corporatist Democrat".

Let me know when you can actually address the views being expressed instead of acting like a child.

Now he's your "way too early favorite" lol

 

[Fawlty]

"Purity tests" = basically analyzing and vetting candidates in an election. You'd think that all Democrats, particularly those belonging to the wing with a professed-at-length commitment to experience and institutional competence, would be open to attempts to analyze a presidential candidate with such a skimpy resume and short list of policy prescriptions as Buttigieg. I'd say it's better to get it out sooner rather than later.


Robinson's piece wasn't "quivering afraid." It was being sufficiently (which is maximally) critical of a person trying to become the most powerful person in the world. When someone lacks both policy and purpose, it should be a red flag regardless, and Buttigeig's continued "golly well, the moment just seems to demand someone of my particular skill set that I can't really describe" doesn't instill confidence in persons such as the author or myself.

Also, to be clear I haven't read Buttigieg's biography, but what I have read about it makes me wonder how it is being compared to Dreams of My Father by Barack Obama, which was a book I have read and one that was pretty wonderful.



What the hell is going on over there with you two

Of course Robinson's afraid. He is afraid that Buttigieg is gaining popularity as a false idol, a corporatist neoliberal with an unknown but darkly selfish agenda, and that is why he attacks him with so much "why didn't he do this" and tries to make an 18 year old out to be a soulless devil who should have been protesting for homeless janitors, and tries to revive a smear that Buttigieg thinks it's great to kill middle easterners, as a response to one of Pete's few positions, about assault weapons. It was histrionic and nitpicking without there being many actual places to pick nits from. At least he came out and admitted that he was super biased against elite people and views them with the most suspicion. The author comes off like quite the panicky boy there.

Again, let's see what Buttigieg puts together.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Again, let's see what Buttigieg puts together.

But in the meantime lets devote enormous amount of lip service and media coverage to his campaign...

 

[Higus]

hmmm...anyone born on 4/20 this year will celebrate their 50th birthday on 4/20/69

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

 

[Fawlty]

Now he's your "way too early favorite" lol

He said this 2 days ago:

My "way too early" favorite is Mayor Pete. And I'd vote for a literal turd over Trump so obviously Biden over Trump is a very easy vote for me. I think you're right, he's not the best candidate, but he's good enough. And it's annoying to see people like AOC say things like "Biden presidential run doesn't excite me". Grow the fuck up.

And if kpt doesn't mind I can otherwise vouch for him being very in tune with the idea of early support being speculative and contingent.