War Room Lounge V32: Justice for Prokofievian!!

[Jack V Savage]

I see that you have the same perspective on empathy that Trump has on physical energy.

Hmm.

 

[Trotsky]

Really? When it first came on, I saw a minute or 2 here and there and it didn't seem interesting. I guess I have to give it another go. I love Catherine O'Hara and Eugene Levy.

Jeez, this is divisive.

Eugene Levy and his son are both great. As is the daughter character and the sort-of-titular character played by Woogie from There's Something About Mary.

Catherine O'Hara's character is really, really bad.

 

[Sous-la-pluie]

puberty blockers aren't scary -- just stop taking them and the boy looks like a young lou ferrigno

 

[Trotsky]

puberty blockers aren't scary -- just stop taking them and the boy looks like a young lou ferrigno

I don't really understand this, but it still made me laugh. Loue Ferrigno has a funny-sounding name.

 

[Gregolian]

Oh this wait is fucking killing me.

 

[Fawlty]

This is weird. Small world huh?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article227186429.html

Trump cheered Patriots to Super Bowl victory with founder of spa where Kraft was busted

Oh lord he gets yankers there too, woof

 

[HockeyBjj]

This is weird. Small world huh?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article227186429.html

Trump cheered Patriots to Super Bowl victory with founder of spa where Kraft was busted

Well that's a weird one for sure

I guess this lady founded that spa but sold it years ago and wasn't ever a part of the prostitution investigation

Trump may not really know her. The Superbowl party was at one of his country clubs where for a 50k donation someone could attend and get a pic with the president and watch the SB all fancy and network with anyone else there. So just another perfectly legal corruption fundraiser (Is there anyway to end this type of shit? Everyone does it)

Still fucking weird how circles of scum and politicians overlap, and you'd be more than warranted to assume there's more smoke to this than what I laid out trying to look beyond the clickbait pics

 

[Higus]

@Jack V Savage

Should it be legal for companies to test puberty blockers on children who are confused about their gender identity?

I'll chime in...
The puberty blockers just delay puberty so parents and children have more time to sort out their gender identity. Transitioning after puberty is much more difficult and less effective.
What's the actual issue? That companies profit off the drugs or that gender dysphoria is treated on children?

 

[Trotsky]

@Fawlty @Gandhi @Jack V Savage @panamaican

Let's imagine for argument's sake, that it is shown that Donald Trump had financial and/or personal ties to the sex slave parlor at which Bob Kraft was busted. Let's say it is proven that he has considerable involvement with those persons, with that business, and in that industry.

What is the response of religious social conservatives? What do they do if it is shown that Trump patronized and/or profited off of underage sex slavery?

 

[Fedorable]

Sweet.

No reports yet on for what.

looks like it didn't happen, but the football Giants got the best pass defending guard in a trade for Olivier Vernon who is always hurt....always.

 

[panamaican]

@Fawlty @Gandhi @Jack V Savage @panamaican

Let's imagine for argument's sake, that it is shown that Donald Trump had financial ties to the sex slave parlor at which Bob Kraft was busted. Let's say it is proven that he has considerable involvement with those persons, with that business, and in that industry.

What is the response of religious social conservatives? What do they do if it is shown that Trump patronized and/or profited off of underage sex slavery?

The response is "We know he's a creep. We didn't elect him because he follows our moral code". Then the real losers say "We're glad he's pissing off liberals, derp, derp, Hillary lost, derp, derp." Then the hypocrites who know they're hypocrites but don't want to be called hypocrites say "Judges, SCOTUS, Trade." Then the trolls say "NK, peace prize. who cares about paying for sex."

And then you read those things and thank god that you don't live in Sherdog, you only visit it.

 

[Jack V Savage]

@Fawlty @Gandhi @Jack V Savage @panamaican

Let's imagine for argument's sake, that it is shown that Donald Trump had financial ties to the sex slave parlor at which Bob Kraft was busted. Let's say it is proven that he has considerable involvement with those persons, with that business, and in that industry.

What is the response of religious social conservatives? What do they do if it is shown that Trump patronized and/or profited off of underage sex slavery?

When Republicans were acting like short-term deficits were the end of the world (that even trading short-term increases for long-term debt reduction as Obama was offering was too big a risk) and like they believed that expansionary fiscal and monetary policy was actually contractionary, I thought they were being irrational but I didn't doubt that they were sincere. Now I know better. And Evangelicals are even less principled than fake budget hawks. I think they're the least-principled group in American politics. They're like Farmer or Inga. I think Trump could be video-taped fucking a child sex slave, and they'd stand behind him.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

looks like it didn't happen, but the football Giants got the best pass defending guard in a trade for Olivier Vernon who is always hurt....always.

Brown is suck a fuckin' piece of shit. Wants out so bad but then says he won't go where he's traded. At this point if I'm the Steelers I tell him to report to camp or enjoy retirement.

 

[Fawlty]

@Fawlty @Gandhi @Jack V Savage @panamaican

Let's imagine for argument's sake, that it is shown that Donald Trump had financial and/or personal ties to the sex slave parlor at which Bob Kraft was busted. Let's say it is proven that he has considerable involvement with those persons, with that business, and in that industry.

What is the response of religious social conservatives? What do they do if it is shown that Trump patronized and/or profited off of underage sex slavery?

For argument's sake:

The ones who condemned Kraft will stay silent, and the ones who didn't condemn him in writing will brush it off. Maybe you'd catch one hypocrite with proof, but he won't allow himself to be confronted honestly. It fires up social media for a couple of days, and then gets forgotten, brought up two weeks later and then eleven weeks later like it's a distant memory. Or something.

 

[Trotsky]

When Republicans were acting like short-term deficits were the end of the world (that even trading short-term increases for long-term debt reduction as Obama was offering was too big a risk) and like they believed that expansionary fiscal and monetary policy was actually contractionary, I thought they were being irrational but I didn't doubt that they were sincere. Now I know better. And Evangelicals are even less principled than fake budget hawks. I think they're the least-principled group in American politics. They're like Farmer or Inga. I think Trump could be video-taped fucking a child sex slave, and they'd stand behind him.

For argument's sake:

The ones who condemned Kraft will stay silent, and the ones who didn't condemn him in writing will brush it off. Maybe you'd catch one hypocrite with proof, but he won't allow himself to be confronted honestly. It fires up social media for a couple of days, and then gets forgotten, brought up two weeks later and then eleven weeks later like it's a distant memory. Or something.

Well, I'm not talking about posters here, but rather his supporters generally - at an electoral level. For that group (let's say they make up 10% of American voters and 30% of Trump's support base) would there be meaningful drop off in support? Any?

Also, JVS, I disagree about religious conservatives being more hypocritical than faux budget hawks. It doesn't get more hypocritical than them.

Brown is suck a fuckin' piece of shit. Wants out so bad but then says he won't go where he's traded. At this point if I'm the Steelers I tell him to report to camp or enjoy retirement.

I've never seen a player go from so universally beloved to so universally despised so quickly. I've also never seen a player who is legitimately one of the ten or fifteen best players in the game tank his market value so drastically/so quickly. At this point I'd be surprised if the Steelers get a 2nd round pick for him. And this is a guy who would have demanded two 1's were he no disgruntled.

 

[Higus]

The response is "We know he's a creep. We didn't elect him because he follows our moral code". Then the real losers say "We're glad he's pissing off liberals, derp, derp, Hillary lost, derp, derp." Then the hypocrites who know they're hypocrites but don't want to be called hypocrites say "Judges, SCOTUS, Trade." Then the trolls say "NK, peace prize. who cares about paying for sex."

And then you read those things and thank god that you don't live in Sherdog, you only visit it.

You forgot about invoking the whatabout Clintons defense.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I've never seen a player go from so universally beloved to so universally despised so quickly. I've also never seen a player who is legitimately one of the ten or fifteen best players in the game tank his market value so drastically/so quickly. At this point I'd be surprised if the Steelers get a 2nd round pick for him. And this is a guy who would have demanded two 1's were he no disgruntled.

Agreed. Hard not to wonder about head trauma.

This is why AB was never a greater asset to the team than Hines Ward, the best receiver in franchise history.

 

[Fawlty]

Well, I'm not talking about posters here, but rather his supporters generally - at an electoral level. For that group (let's say they make up 10% of American voters and 30% of Trump's support base) would there be meaningful drop off in support? Any?



I've never seen a player go from so universally beloved to so universally despised so quickly. I've also never seen a player who is legitimately one of the ten or fifteen best players in the game tank his market value so drastically/so quickly. At this point I'd be surprised if the Steelers get a 2nd round pick for him. And this is a guy who would have demanded two 1's were he no disgruntled.

Same basic thing applies. Would be a mixture of people avoiding accountability for their previous opinions or people making excuses. I think Pan's take on the ripskater Christian dissonance excuse would be the most common way to brush it off.

I don't think it would last very long in the news. Could be wrong, as that's really pushing it.

 

[Trotsky]

Agreed. Hard not to wonder about head trauma.

This is why AB was never a greater asset to the team than Hines Ward, the best receiver in franchise history.

Haha, idk about that. Brown has been insanely productive. There was a game against the Packers a few years ago where I couldn't even believe how unstoppable he was. Ward was a uber-versatile player that could play all over the offense, return punts, and block....but he was never a top 5 WR.

 

[Trotsky]

Same basic thing applies. Would be a mixture of people avoiding accountability for their previous opinions or people making excuses. I think Pan's take on the ripskater Christian dissonance excuse would be the most common way to brush it off.

I don't think it would last very long in the news. Could be wrong, as that's really pushing it.

Really crazy that something that would be rightfully regarded as cartoonishly cynical only a few years ago (and still has that sort of ring) is also more than likely completely true.