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War Room Lounge V26: Neoliberal Clicks

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Did anyone listen to the JRE on Jones test? Any new thoughts?
 
Elon Musk is really an asshole

https://www.courthousenews.com/elon-musk-asks-judge-to-toss-divers-lawsuit-in-thai-dustup/
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Elon Musk is asking a California judge to throw out a lawsuit filed against him by a British diver the tech entrepreneur called a :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile on Twitter, arguing that it was nothing more than a “schoolyard spat on social media” that no reasonable reader took seriously.

Musk’s motion to dismiss, filed in court on Wednesday, argues that “the public knew from the outset that Musk’s insults were not intended to be statements of fact.”

Musk called diver Vernon Unsworth a “:eek::eek::eek::eek:” in a tweet to 22.5 million followers after Unsworth criticized Musk on CNN in July, saying his efforts to help rescue young soccer players trapped in a cave in Thailand amounted to “a PR stunt.”

Musk and engineers from his rocket company, SpaceX, built a small submarine and shipped it to Thailand to help with the rescue. The device wasn’t used and Unsworth said on CNN that it wouldn’t have worked to free the boys who were trapped in the flooded cave.

He added: “(Musk) can stick his submarine somewhere where it hurts.”

Musk later deleted his tweets about Unsworth and apologized, tweeting that his words were “spoken in anger” and that the sub was built out of kindness according to specifications from the dive team leader.

But on Aug. 30, Musk emailed a BuzzFeed News reporter, suggesting he investigate Unsworth and “stop defending child rapists,” according to the lawsuit.

“He’s an old, single white guy from England who’s been traveling or living in Thailand for 30 to 40 years,” Musk wrote, adding that Unsworth moved to Thailand “for a child bride who was about 12 years old at the time,” according to the lawsuit.

“Mr. Unsworth is not a :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile. Mr. Unsworth has never engaged in an act of :eek::eek::eek::eek:philia. Mr. Unsworth is not a child rapist,” the lawsuit said, adding that Unsworth has never been married to a minor.

Unsworth lives in Thailand with his “significant other,” a 40-year-old woman, and started going to Thailand in 2011 to explore and map caves, the lawsuit said.

Musk’s motion to dismiss argues that the email to BuzzFeed was supposed to be off the record, but the news outlet reported at the time that its reporters had made no such agreement — a standard practice among journalists before publishing anything without attribution.

“While many readers criticized Musk for lodging what they understood to be groundless accusations, not a single reader seemed to construe Musk’s statements literally,” Musk’s attorneys wrote.

The attorneys are arguing that reasonable readers would not take any of Musk’s statements as objective facts but rather, “nonactionable opinion.”

“Here, the reasonable reader would not have believed that Musk — without having ever met Unsworth, in the midst of a schoolyard spat on social media, and from 8,000 miles afar — was conveying that he was in possession of private knowledge that Unsworth was sexually attracted to children or engaged in sex acts with children,” according to Musk’s filing.

Musk’s statements were simply “imaginative attacks,” and even if they were offensive, such insults are protected by the First Amendment, the filing said.

“(Readers) contemporaneously recognized Musk’s comments for what they were: over-the-top insults not driven by first-hand knowledge,” it said.
 
Lord Coke said:
Elon Musk is really an asshole

https://www.courthousenews.com/elon-musk-asks-judge-to-toss-divers-lawsuit-in-thai-dustup/
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Elon Musk is asking a California judge to throw out a lawsuit filed against him by a British diver the tech entrepreneur called a :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile on Twitter, arguing that it was nothing more than a “schoolyard spat on social media” that no reasonable reader took seriously.

Musk’s motion to dismiss, filed in court on Wednesday, argues that “the public knew from the outset that Musk’s insults were not intended to be statements of fact.”

Musk called diver Vernon Unsworth a “:eek::eek::eek::eek:” in a tweet to 22.5 million followers after Unsworth criticized Musk on CNN in July, saying his efforts to help rescue young soccer players trapped in a cave in Thailand amounted to “a PR stunt.”

Musk and engineers from his rocket company, SpaceX, built a small submarine and shipped it to Thailand to help with the rescue. The device wasn’t used and Unsworth said on CNN that it wouldn’t have worked to free the boys who were trapped in the flooded cave.

He added: “(Musk) can stick his submarine somewhere where it hurts.”

Musk later deleted his tweets about Unsworth and apologized, tweeting that his words were “spoken in anger” and that the sub was built out of kindness according to specifications from the dive team leader.

But on Aug. 30, Musk emailed a BuzzFeed News reporter, suggesting he investigate Unsworth and “stop defending child rapists,” according to the lawsuit.

“He’s an old, single white guy from England who’s been traveling or living in Thailand for 30 to 40 years,” Musk wrote, adding that Unsworth moved to Thailand “for a child bride who was about 12 years old at the time,” according to the lawsuit.

“Mr. Unsworth is not a :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile. Mr. Unsworth has never engaged in an act of :eek::eek::eek::eek:philia. Mr. Unsworth is not a child rapist,” the lawsuit said, adding that Unsworth has never been married to a minor.

Unsworth lives in Thailand with his “significant other,” a 40-year-old woman, and started going to Thailand in 2011 to explore and map caves, the lawsuit said.

Musk’s motion to dismiss argues that the email to BuzzFeed was supposed to be off the record, but the news outlet reported at the time that its reporters had made no such agreement — a standard practice among journalists before publishing anything without attribution.

“While many readers criticized Musk for lodging what they understood to be groundless accusations, not a single reader seemed to construe Musk’s statements literally,” Musk’s attorneys wrote.

The attorneys are arguing that reasonable readers would not take any of Musk’s statements as objective facts but rather, “nonactionable opinion.”

“Here, the reasonable reader would not have believed that Musk — without having ever met Unsworth, in the midst of a schoolyard spat on social media, and from 8,000 miles afar — was conveying that he was in possession of private knowledge that Unsworth was sexually attracted to children or engaged in sex acts with children,” according to Musk’s filing.

Musk’s statements were simply “imaginative attacks,” and even if they were offensive, such insults are protected by the First Amendment, the filing said.

“(Readers) contemporaneously recognized Musk’s comments for what they were: over-the-top insults not driven by first-hand knowledge,” it said.
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I'm sure there is some sense in which his lawyer is expected to try to use whatever defense seems to have a hope of winning the case, but yeah, that's pretty gross. He's a rich and powerful guy. He wouldn't have to go anywhere to obtain detailed information about anyone he wants to, pretty much. There are bound to be lots of people who took his statements to have at least some element of truth. He could have done his reputation a lot of good by just not fighting the lawsuit other than to settle on an amount for damages and a public apology.
 
Hunter Simpson said:
I'm sure there is some sense in which his lawyer is expected to try to use whatever defense seems to have a hope of winning the case, but yeah, that's pretty gross. He's a rich and powerful guy. He wouldn't have to go anywhere to obtain detailed information about anyone he wants to, pretty much. There are bound to be lots of people who took his statements to have at least some element of truth. He could have done his reputation a lot of good by just not fighting the lawsuit other than to settle on an amount for damages and a public apology.
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He publicly challenged the guy to sue him to. At that point his pride is on the line and he had to sue Musk.
Bottom line is Musk tried to come in with some unrealistic idea to rescue these kids and actually got in the way. Then he starts insulting the guy that actually is rescuing the kids.
 
Lead said:
Did anyone listen to the JRE on Jones test? Any new thoughts?
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Nope. Given that he was blaming his last positive test on Jones snorting coke that was cut with creatine that happened to have turinabol in it, I'm not exactly excited to hear what excuse gets brought up this time.

Supposedly he's having that Novitzky guy on to talk about the ''science.'' Here's the science: you can piss clean even after using. Now they're letting people with ''abnormal samples'' compete. How this doesn't constitute a dangerous norm erosion for the sport, I guess will be the topic of the podcast.
 
Lord Coke said:
Elon Musk is really an asshole

https://www.courthousenews.com/elon-musk-asks-judge-to-toss-divers-lawsuit-in-thai-dustup/
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Elon Musk is asking a California judge to throw out a lawsuit filed against him by a British diver the tech entrepreneur called a :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile on Twitter, arguing that it was nothing more than a “schoolyard spat on social media” that no reasonable reader took seriously.

Musk’s motion to dismiss, filed in court on Wednesday, argues that “the public knew from the outset that Musk’s insults were not intended to be statements of fact.”

Musk called diver Vernon Unsworth a “:eek::eek::eek::eek:” in a tweet to 22.5 million followers after Unsworth criticized Musk on CNN in July, saying his efforts to help rescue young soccer players trapped in a cave in Thailand amounted to “a PR stunt.”

Musk and engineers from his rocket company, SpaceX, built a small submarine and shipped it to Thailand to help with the rescue. The device wasn’t used and Unsworth said on CNN that it wouldn’t have worked to free the boys who were trapped in the flooded cave.

He added: “(Musk) can stick his submarine somewhere where it hurts.”

Musk later deleted his tweets about Unsworth and apologized, tweeting that his words were “spoken in anger” and that the sub was built out of kindness according to specifications from the dive team leader.

But on Aug. 30, Musk emailed a BuzzFeed News reporter, suggesting he investigate Unsworth and “stop defending child rapists,” according to the lawsuit.

“He’s an old, single white guy from England who’s been traveling or living in Thailand for 30 to 40 years,” Musk wrote, adding that Unsworth moved to Thailand “for a child bride who was about 12 years old at the time,” according to the lawsuit.

“Mr. Unsworth is not a :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile. Mr. Unsworth has never engaged in an act of :eek::eek::eek::eek:philia. Mr. Unsworth is not a child rapist,” the lawsuit said, adding that Unsworth has never been married to a minor.

Unsworth lives in Thailand with his “significant other,” a 40-year-old woman, and started going to Thailand in 2011 to explore and map caves, the lawsuit said.

Musk’s motion to dismiss argues that the email to BuzzFeed was supposed to be off the record, but the news outlet reported at the time that its reporters had made no such agreement — a standard practice among journalists before publishing anything without attribution.

“While many readers criticized Musk for lodging what they understood to be groundless accusations, not a single reader seemed to construe Musk’s statements literally,” Musk’s attorneys wrote.

The attorneys are arguing that reasonable readers would not take any of Musk’s statements as objective facts but rather, “nonactionable opinion.”

“Here, the reasonable reader would not have believed that Musk — without having ever met Unsworth, in the midst of a schoolyard spat on social media, and from 8,000 miles afar — was conveying that he was in possession of private knowledge that Unsworth was sexually attracted to children or engaged in sex acts with children,” according to Musk’s filing.

Musk’s statements were simply “imaginative attacks,” and even if they were offensive, such insults are protected by the First Amendment, the filing said.

“(Readers) contemporaneously recognized Musk’s comments for what they were: over-the-top insults not driven by first-hand knowledge,” it said.
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Lead said:
Did anyone listen to the JRE on Jones test? Any new thoughts?
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I heard them. They're both shills.

I really do feel bad for DC. It's like a Jacob and Esau thing, it doesn't matter how terrible a person Jones is, how many times he pops or how many people he mows over while snorting cocaine, people just love him and want to think the best of him. Meanwhile DC has fought clean his entire career, and he doesn't get the respect he deserves- it all goes to Jones.
 
Holy shit I'd be too embarrassed to share an account with a sibling. Regardless, you guys are hilarious. I mean feeling like you have to dox yourself on an online forum to strangers to prove something... Is a sure sign of immaturity.

I mean, I've been called a Starbucks barrista among other things. Just rolls off my back. I could never imagined scanning my paycheck to show some random person my monetary status for fuck's sake just to say golly gee, egg on your face, I win (when I already know I win). Get a grip people.
 
NoDak said:
Do, but give it more than one play within a reasonable time frame. The clips make it look like some kind of science fiction action film but it isn't. It's Noir to the core, and really more like this, which was beautifully done.

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I thought it would simply be a sci-fi movie. I am not a movie expert, so I cannot see everything you see in a movie. Or rather, if I do see it, I do not appreciate the intricacies of such, at least not rationally. However, I do get "vibes" from movies--as I did in the pictures/trailer you showed. Thanks for taking the time to explain to my ignorant ass the finer details.
 
WhiteMousse said:
I heard them. They're both shills.

I really do feel bad for DC. It's like a Jacob and Esau thing, it doesn't matter how terrible a person Jones is, how many times he pops or how many people he mows over while snorting cocaine, people just love him and want to think the best of him. Meanwhile DC has fought clean his entire career, and he doesn't get the respect he deserves- it all goes to Jones.
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I think there's also a bit of villain love going on too. Jones needs an opponent that doesn't sound like an absolute dork when responding to him. I think DC's cringe inducing shit talk towards Jones, has practically built Jones' entire fan base.

Remember when he dropped Machida on his head? Nobody really liked him or his attitude. Respected the skill for sure, but people were kind of getting sick of him being so dominant and cocky. Remember "Go get some fans"? That was before all the steroid shit too. Once he started picking on DC, and DC started reacting(poorly), that's when I noticed the worm starting to turn in his favor.
 
Prokofievian said:
No joke he looks exactly like my 10 year old nephew.

NB: The dutch word for midget/little person is actually lilliputter. I giggled for days when I learned that.
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There are probably a lot of female teachers who are just dying to get with little Johnny Gaudreau.
 
HereticBD said:
I think there's also a bit of villain love going on too. Jones needs an opponent that doesn't sound like an absolute dork when responding to him. I think DC's cringe inducing shit talk towards Jones, has practically built Jones' entire fan base.

Remember when he dropped Machida on his head? Nobody really liked him or his attitude. Respected the skill for sure, but people were kind of getting sick of him being so dominant and cocky. Remember "Go get some fans"? That was before all the steroid shit too. Once he started picking on DC, and DC started reacting(poorly), that's when I noticed the worm starting to turn in his favor.
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It's true, DC didn't do himself any favors with the way he reacted to Jones.

Also eyepoking Stipe three times in twenty seconds before the right hook made me lose tons of respect for him.
 
Lord Coke said:
He publicly challenged the guy to sue him to. At that point his pride is on the line and he had to sue Musk.
Bottom line is Musk tried to come in with some unrealistic idea to rescue these kids and actually got in the way. Then he starts insulting the guy that actually is rescuing the kids.
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Hm, yeah that's one ass even @senri probably can't get behind.
 
My "brother" is fucking embarrassed for this guy

woof, oof, and howwwwwwwl
 
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