War Room Lounge V24: Mental Illness

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Trotsky said:
Btw, @PolishHeadlock, I agree with you. I think Prince is very overrated as a musician and artist.

MJ, however, really is the king of pop, even if he never really had great prestige as a musician or artist.
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Could not disagree more. I think as highly rated as Prince generally is, he's still underrated.

My favorite illustration is his version of Bill Withers' (another artist very high on my list) "Ain't No Sunshine." Everyone's done a version of it (including MJ, who charted with it). I had a whole mix CD of ANS covers. But Prince's take just blows everyone--McCartney, Sting, Jackson, the Temptations, Joe Cocker, fucking Ed Sheeran, the Neville Brothers, everyone--away. And it's not even a footnote to his career. I don't think it's on anything you can buy (I saw an online vid that I can't find now). He's done dozens of songs that are totally under the radar but would be the best thing that many legends have ever done.

One of my favorite living writers had a character that was a big Prince fan. Had him say this:

I don't know whether The Artist Formerly Known As Prince is Tourettic or obsessive-compulsive in his human life, but I know for certain he is deeply so in the life of his work. Music has never made much of an impact on me until the day in 1986 when, sitting in the passenger seat of Minna's Cadillac, I first heard the single "Kiss" squirting its manic way out of the car radio. To that point in my life I might have once or twice heard music that toyed with feelings of claustrophobic discomfort and expulsive release, and which in so doing passingly charmed my Tourette's, gulled it with a sense of recognition, like Art Carney or Daffy Duck -- but here was a song that lived entirely in that territory, guitar and voice twitching and throbbing withing obsessively delineated bounds, alternately silent and plosive. It so pulsed with Tourettic energies that I could surrender to its tormented squeaky beat and let my syndrome live outside my brain for once, live in the air instead.
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Jack V Savage said:
Could not disagree more. I think as highly rated as Prince generally is, he's still underrated.

My favorite illustration is his version of Bill Withers' (another artist very high on my list) "Ain't No Sunshine." Everyone's done a version of it (including MJ, who charted with it). I had a whole mix CD of ANS covers. But Prince's take just blows everyone--McCartney, Sting, Jackson, the Temptations, Joe Cocker, fucking Ed Sheeran, the Neville Brothers, everyone--away. And it's not even a footnote to his career. I don't think it's on anything you can buy (I saw an online vid that I can't find now). He's done dozens of songs that are totally under the radar but would be the best thing that many legends have ever done.

One of my favorite living writers had a character that was a big Prince fan. Had him say this:
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Prince was a legit virtuoso on the guitar. He put on the best Super Bowl half time show ever.
 
Prince's guitar skills are actually the most overrated thing about him. It's mostly wankery. He is a fantastic composer though.
 
Anyone remember when Terrance Trent Darby said he was more talented than Prince? He never said that about MJ. Checkmate, Prince fans.
 
sickc0d3r said:
Anyone remember when Terrance Trent Darby said he was more talented than Prince? He never said that about MJ. Checkmate, Prince fans.
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He said that "Hardline" was the most important album since "Sgt. Pepper" (both titles abbreviated). Also said it was better than Pepper. He's delusional, but I thought it was pretty fucking good, TBH.
 
Jack V Savage said:
He said that "Hardline" was the most important album since "Sgt. Pepper" (both titles abbreviated). Also said it was better than Pepper. He's delusional, but I thought it was pretty fucking good, TBH.
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Lol, yes that guy was a living in a fantasy land. Would make a great sheepdog poster. But I also thought he was pretty damn good.
 
Jack V Savage said:
Could not disagree more. I think as highly rated as Prince generally is, he's still underrated.

My favorite illustration is his version of Bill Withers' (another artist very high on my list) "Ain't No Sunshine." Everyone's done a version of it (including MJ, who charted with it). I had a whole mix CD of ANS covers. But Prince's take just blows everyone--McCartney, Sting, Jackson, the Temptations, Joe Cocker, fucking Ed Sheeran, the Neville Brothers, everyone--away. And it's not even a footnote to his career. I don't think it's on anything you can buy (I saw an online vid that I can't find now). He's done dozens of songs that are totally under the radar but would be the best thing that many legends have ever done.

One of my favorite living writers had a character that was a big Prince fan. Had him say this:
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Agreed. Prince was far more talented than Michael Jackson. Both could sing, Write and dance, but that’s where MJ stopped. Prince played multiple instruments and his writing was far deeper than what MJ ever did. Both ended up wacko’s though.
 
sickc0d3r said:
Anyone remember when Terrance Trent Darby said he was more talented than Prince? He never said that about MJ. Checkmate, Prince fans.
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Most of these wankers weren’t even alive when Darby was relevant.
 
We don’t have those larger than life icons in music anymore. Nothing like it was prior to the 90’s. Maybe just the amount of access changed it, but kids of this generation can’t fathom how huge artists like Michael Jackson, prince, and Madonna were. I also miss the rock front man. Bands these days don’t have that David Lee Roth, Freddy Mercury, or Robert Plant charisma.
 
Captain Davis said:
We don’t have those larger than life icons in music anymore. Nothing like it was prior to the 90’s. Maybe just the amount of access changed it, but kids of this generation can’t fathom how huge artists like Michael Jackson, prince, and Madonna were. I also miss the rock front man. Bands these days don’t have that David Lee Roth, Freddy Mercury, or Robert Plant charisma.
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There aren't even any real bands anymore. I miss rock, metal, punk, even hair bands. Luckily these days I dig country, and more laid back stuff like Jack Johnson, so I get by.
 
sickc0d3r said:
There aren't even any real bands anymore. I miss rock, metal, punk, even hair bands. Luckily these days I dig country, and more laid back stuff like Jack Johnson, so I get by.
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I actually love hair bands. Dude it was all about sex, partying and have a great time. The grunge era killed our buzz. Everyone started hating their parents shooting up classrooms. I like Country when I’m in the mood for it. Country music is the greatest at storytelling and yanking at your heart strings.
 




Note if I ever get married not to send my wife to this doctor
 
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Captain Davis said:
I actually love hair bands. Dude it was all about sex, partying and have a great time. The grunge era killed our buzz. Everyone started hating their parents shooting up classrooms.
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So true. The 80's concert scene was money, and grunge strangled it with the plaid shirt that was tied around it's waist. I did like some of those 90's bands, though (I'll put Chris Cornell's pipes up there with anybody, and STP was great, too. RIP.).
 
Captain Davis said:
I actually love hair bands. Dude it was all about sex, partying and have a great time. The grunge era killed our buzz. Everyone started hating their parents shooting up classrooms. I like Country when I’m in the mood for it. Country music is the greatest at storytelling and yanking at your heart strings.
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I think you have to give some blame to Axl Rose. Guns and Roses was able to compete with the grunge bands but their self inflicted demise left the genre without lead act.
 
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