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There is no country that has, P4P, done as much good while doing so much bad for music as Canada.

I got Bieber guilt. We all let that shit happen.
Let's not forget the abomination that was Ace of Base
I know we've all tried, though
 
Let's not forget the abomination that was Ace of Base
I know we've all tried, though

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You better open up your eyes and see yhe sign before it's too late bro.
 
You shouldn't come into a meme thread expecting truth though. They are intended to be absurd and exaggeration.
So, continuing the discussion in its proper place, again, I'll stipulate that the meme thread itself was a bad place to get into it. On the other hand, the best satire is truth exaggerated. Not lies taken to extremes and that is my objection to most of the so-called memes in that thread, 99% of which are right wing and 90% of which have been posted by Cint.
 
Not trying to be a dick or anything, these memes jut aren't worth arguing over. Post some of your own, balance it out.

Considering that memes have become one of the main ways ideas and information are passed around, especially on the internet, many of which are taken as truth, it is completely reasonable to dispute them.

If you disagree you support spreading of fake news and propaganda.

You only defend it because it's propaganda that makes you feel good about your own biases.
Please see my post, above. I agree with you, RP, but I also agree the meme thread itself is not the place to get into it, probably.
 
Ace of Base was neo-Nazi?

Well, one of the members was in a neo-Nazi band, and a lot of the lyrics of Ace of Base sound pretty fishy. The band name might be an allusion to a Nazi base. The one confirmed former neo-Nazi member does express regret about his past and denies any current associations.

Plug this into Google Translate:

Män i vita kåporna på vägen tågar. Vi njuter när vi huvudena av niggrerna sågar/ Svartskalle, vi hatar dig! Ut, ut, ut, ut! Nordens folk, vakna nu! Skjut, skjut, skjut, skjut!

That's from his previous band.
 
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Well, one of the members was in a neo-Nazi band, and a lot of the lyrics of Ace of Base sound pretty fishy. The band name might be an allusion to a Nazi base. The one confirmed former neo-Nazi member does express regret about his past and denies any current associations.

Plug this into Google Translate:

Män i vita kåporna på vägen tågar. Vi njuter när vi huvudena av niggrerna sågar/ Svartskalle, vi hatar dig! Ut, ut, ut, ut! Nordens folk, vakna nu! Skjut, skjut, skjut, skjut!

That's from his previous band.

She saw the sign and it opened up her eyes to a white ethnostate.
 
Thought about making a thread for this, but I think I might put it in here instead. Emphasis mine.

White Nationalist and Trump bootlicker Richard Spencer is complete piece of shit human being (shocker)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ichard-spencer-physical-abuse-divorce-filings

White nationalist Richard Spencer accused of physical abuse by wife
The wife of the white nationalist Richard Spencer has accused him of emotional and physical abuse, including choking her, dragging her by her hair and attempting to punch her while she was pregnant, according to divorce filings in the Flathead county district court in Montana.

“One of [Spencer’s] favorite statements to me is, ‘The only language women understand is violence,’” Spencer’s wife Nina Koupriianova alleged in divorce filings. She claimed he called her “genetically defective” and a “parasite”, and that he verbally abused her in front of their young daughter.

“I’m famous and you are not! I’m important and you are not!” the white nationalist leader would sometimes tell her when he was angry, she claimed in the divorce filings.

The allegations in the divorce filings were first reported by Buzzfeed News after multiple attempts by Spencer to keep them under seal.

Spencer called his wife’s allegations of abuse “a wild mischaracterization of who I am” and said he would not comment on her specific allegations. “I’m not going to be engaging with specifics,” he told the Guardian.

Spencer rose to prominence during Trump’s presidential campaign as a well-dressed, media-savvy white nationalist eager to explain to journalists why Trump’s presidential campaign was a political step forward for American neo-Nazis and members of the Ku Klux Klan.

He became internationally famous after shouting “Hail Trump! Hail our people!” and being greeted with Nazi salutes at a white nationalist event in November 2016, shortly after Trump was elected president. In 2017, he was one of the most prominent participants in the violent white supremacist rallies in Charlottesville, Virginia, which included violent clashes in the streets, attacks on black Charlottesville residents, and a car attack on a crowd of counter-protesters that left 32-year-old Heather Heyer dead.

Spencer and Koupriianova married in 2010 and have been living separately since July 2017, according to the filings. They have two young children.

In the divorce filings, his wife argued that Spencer’s abusive behavior, drinking and white nationalist political activism put their children at risk.

“Most if not all of [Spencer’s] public speaking events end in violence,” his wife noted.

Koupriianova, who has her own ties to the Russian far right, has previously defended Spencer and his views. In December 2016, the month after the “Hail Trump!” event, Spencer’s prominence as a racist advocate had sparked outrage in Whitefish, Montana, where Spencer and his family sometimes lived. Koupriianova wrote an op-ed in a local newspaper suggesting that her husband had been the subject of a “witch hunt” and claiming that Spencer “promotes positive identity for peoples of European descent around the world”.
Spencer was one of the most prominent participants in the violent white supremacist rallies in Charlottesville, Virginia. Photograph: Joshua Roberts/Reuters
Spencer had been “misrepresented” by the “establishment media”, she wrote in 2016, in a plea for “free speech” and “being respectful” to differing views.

In divorce filings, she suggested that Spencer, a believer in “traditional marriage” and “traditional” gender roles, had sometimes failed to provide for his family and care for her and their children, as well as engaging in physical violence and verbally abusing her in front of their children.

Last year, after she returned from hospital after the birth of their second child, Spencer left her alone without any help to care for the newborn and their toddler daughter, his wife alleged.

During their marriage, the white nationalist leader sometimes told her to use her own savings to pay for groceries, saying that his money was “for the cause”, she alleged. He also regularly failed to pay water, internet, electricity and cellphone bills and failed to make healthcare payments, causing their health insurance to lapse three times, including once shortly before the birth of their second child.

In 2014, when she was pregnant with their first child, he held her down with his body weight and grabbed her by the neck and the jaw, leaving bruises, she alleged. In 2017, when she was nine months pregnant, he attempted to punch her in the face, she claimed.

After he was punched in the face in Washington DC on the day of Trump’s inauguration in 2016, Spencer left a loaded .38 pistol on the table in their bedroom in Montana, where it was easily accessible to their then two-year-old daughter, Koupriianova alleged. When his wife confronted him about the risk to their child, “he did not seem to adequately appreciate the danger”, she claimed.

She claimed he repeatedly told her to kill herself and asked if her parents would attend her funeral. Much of the abuse happened in front of their children, she alleged.

Spencer “has noticeably increased his alcohol intake in recent years, which contributes to his aggressive behavior and reduces his impulse control”, she said. During their video chats, he would sometimes be holding a bottle of liquor early in the afternoon, she claimed.

The older daughter, who was three years old this summer, has witnessed Spencer’s outbursts and heard his verbal abuse of his mother and her babysitter, whom Spencer called a “fucking sub-mediocre human being”, Koupriianova alleged.

In the filings, she describes the daughter as trying to intervene when Spencer berated her mother, including putting herself between her parents and trying to distract her father or ask him to stop, and said the little girl was suffering from “sleeplessness, nightmares and anxiety” as a result of witnessing the abuse.

While Spencer repeatedly attempted to have the divorce proceedings sealed from public view, Judge Heidi Ulbricht denied the motion, citing the Montana constitution and first amendment press protections.

Matthew Heimbach, another prominent young neo-Nazi leader, was arrested on domestic violence charges in March.
 
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