War Room Lounge v190: Resolution Impossible

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So, I said this to my wife the other night, "I need to know that you know that you can say no, you know?"

Some of you in here seem to enjoy playing with language as much as I do so I thought I would share; I got a giggle out of the unintentional repetition. It was in the context of me asking her to do something not terribly important that I would feel guilty asking of her if she thought she needed to do it even though she has other (more important) things to do.
 
Prokofievian said:
This reminds me of a joke that Žižek tells, about the slovenian farmer who is visited by a genie who tells him that ''I will grant you anything, but whatever you ask for, I will give twice as much to your neighbour.'' So the slovenian farmer says ''well okay, take one of my eyes.''
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That's a good one, yeah really feels like it applies here. Often the argument from that side is that its unfair because many people already paid off their student loans so they get no benefit. But wouldn't your credit score improve if you paid off your student loans yourself and presumably wouldn't change much at all if they were paid off by the government? So you'd still have that advantage over others who had their loans forgiven.
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Jack V Savage said:
This is something that Biden could do without Congress, which is why I think it's being seriously considered. The point would just be the short-term stimulus, and the more, the better. Unlike the last recession (which had the whole debt overhang, financial crisis aspect), I think this one could go away pretty quickly with a good shot of stimulus.

The potential blowback is something to worry about, but ultimately, if we have a booming economy by 2024, I think the political tradeoff is fine, and it's potentially the right thing to do politics aside ("potentially" because it depends on what other options are available, as I can see many other, better options possible but maybe not actually available). I do remember the late, unmissed Sabretruth was really fanatically against it because he thought it was unfair. Worth mentioning because I think he was a good representative of a big chunk of low-ish-info swing voters--deeply authoritarian, nutty religious beliefs, hardcore into culture-war stuff, with many leftist policy views but a lot of cynicism about left-leaning politicians' desire to actually implement them. He kind of descended into total madness before the end, though.
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What are options you think might be better but not available? Simply forgiving loans more generally instead of just the interest?

And yeah sabretruth was an odd one there. Great username though.
 
Jack V Savage said:
This is something that Biden could do without Congress, which is why I think it's being seriously considered. The point would just be the short-term stimulus, and the more, the better. Unlike the last recession (which had the whole debt overhang, financial crisis aspect), I think this one could go away pretty quickly with a good shot of stimulus.

The potential blowback is something to worry about, but ultimately, if we have a booming economy by 2024, I think the political tradeoff is fine, and it's potentially the right thing to do politics aside ("potentially" because it depends on what other options are available, as I can see many other, better options possible but maybe not actually available). I do remember the late, unmissed Sabretruth was really fanatically against it because he thought it was unfair. Worth mentioning because I think he was a good representative of a big chunk of low-ish-info swing voters--deeply authoritarian, nutty religious beliefs, hardcore into culture-war stuff, with many leftist policy views but a lot of cynicism about left-leaning politicians' desire to actually implement them. He kind of descended into total madness before the end, though.
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@Khabib Khanate did sabredink get banned? What for?

And he was absolutely the perfect embodiment of that Zizek joke. I think he was even against raising the minimum wage because it would make his wage worth less in comparison.
 
Khabib Khanate said:
What are options you think might be better but not available? Simply forgiving loans more generally instead of just the interest?
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No, I'm talking about forms of stimulus that are totally unrelated to student loans. I'm not looking at forgiving student loans as an end here; getting more money circulating in the economy is the goal. So the possibilities are endless. Just sending out checks to everyone might be the best thing. Aid to state and local gov'ts would be another really good way to get it done. I think student-loan forgiveness would be way down the list if there were no constraints.
 
Prokofievian said:
@Khabib Khanate did sabredink get banned? What for?

And he was absolutely the perfect embodiment of that Zizek joke. I think he was even against raising the minimum wage because it would make his wage worth less in comparison.
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I think he chose to have his account deleted.

And, yeah. Horrible person and poster, but IMO, more representative of the typical swing voter than maybe anyone here.
 
@TeTe 29 notifications?


You go make those words blue like I asked.
 
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