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Not even for a 3/4 chance of taking his?? Do you have some value attached to your account?
You ninja edited after I responded.
Call him on the bluff and find out if he will backout
WAR ROOM LOUNGE V18: HAPE ...... (it means high-altitude pulmonary edema, you sicko)
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Not even for a 3/4 chance of taking his?? Do you have some value attached to your account?
You ninja edited after I responded.
Call him on the bluff and find out if he will backout
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I remember Sherdog ranked him in the 10, maybe even top 5, p4p list. Even though he was very consistent in the UFC he didn't really have any great wins, probably because the UFC kept giving him high risk, low reward fights due to how boring he was.
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His performance against Thiago in the second fight was definitely a highlight for me, he really put it all together for that fight. He was a pretty well rounded mixed-martial artist, but he just wasn't that great at anything. If he couldn't take you down, and you could strike, you were usually going to piece him up. I remember barely caring about GSP-Fitch, it always felt like the T-800 versus the T-1000.
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Obviously.
You're welcome to bet your own account on similar odds.
Yeah, he was p4p No. 5 at one time, and a lot of people defended that in the HWs. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Over.
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That Alves win is probably his best win. Other than that who else has he beat? Erick Silva? Mike Pierce? Not bad names but not really great ones either.
He wasn't even that great of a wrestler, I think he had a losing record in college. Koscheck was a far superior wrestler, he just wasn't as smart a fighter and didn't really build his overall game off it as well. In fact I think Koscheck was one of the best wrestlers in the history of the UFC, he just had terrible fight IQ so he couldn't really show it.
On some level I get it. He had only lost to a guy who was a consensus top 3 p4p and arguably #1 and was otherwise undefeated in a very deep division.
But like I said, he didn't really beat anyone that great. Its almost like he got the spot by elimination as other p4p contenders lost while he kept grinding out wins against top 15-20 guys
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Fuck that shit. If you're the fifth best fighter in the world p4p, you're probably going to lose to a top-3 guy, but you should at least be in the fight. That was 50-43 or 50-44. And it's not like he had a bunch of wins over other top guys just short of that level or even like he was totally blowing out just-outside-the-top-10 fighters. And who cares if the division is deep if you haven't actually been fighting the best guys in it or smoking the solid guys who aren't the best? There is no damned way that Fitch was ever among the 10 best fighters p4p in the whole sport. He never had the record OR the performances that would justify that kind of praise.
What I think it was was that we were seeing top guys get unexpectedly Fitched so everyone way overcorrected on blankets (went from underrating them to way overrating them). I made the same mistake myself, but not to the extent that I bought the Fitch hype.
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Fitch definitely wasn't that good a wrestler, it just happened that no one else in the division was that great either. Against the great grapplers of the division, he looked like an amateur. Except BJ, but BJ was checked out by then. Koscheck would have wrecked him everywhere, it'd be Lytle 2.0. I thought Josh was gonna be the one to take GSP out, that fight was a huge disappointment to me. That Rihanna promo had me hyped.
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I remember when Nik Lentz was being talked about as a title contender.
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Yeah Fitch was the king of the blankets, the quintessential boring wrestler.
Even BJ outgrappled him for the first two rounds despite a significant size disadvantage. Its only because he gassed and took the last round off that the fight was a draw, if BJ was just active enough to lose a 10-9 round instead of a 10-8 he could've beat Fitch.
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Over. I'd take the over on 2 million also.
Loved The Texas Crazy Horse back in the day.
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Anyone else sipping on Tequila?
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I'm still trying to finish a bottle of Mezcal my friend bought me, it's a slog.
Oh, definitely, but I think he did enough in the third that I don't consider it an embarassment. Well, maybe a little embarrassing that he didn't finish BJ. That was the first UFC I watched on my friends new surround sound system and it sounded like a Rocky training session when Fitch was on top.
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Actually I just polished a bottle of this off tonight. It's my go to, bang for the buck house tequila. Only had a little left.
Moving to vodka now because it's all I have left in the bar.
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Lucky devil! I'm sure you'll manage.
Actually I just polished a bottle of this off tonight. It's my go to, bang for the buck house tequila. Only had a little left.
Moving to vodka now because it's all I have left in the bar.
Right on. Never tried that one. Sucks when you gotta switch to vodka. Just bought my bottle so no problemo on this end.
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In this study by the NIH, they conclude that it depends upon how it is covered whether talking about it in the media encourages further suicide.
"The way suicide is reported is a significant factor in media-related suicide contagion, with more dramatic headlines and more prominently placed (i.e., front page) stories associated with greater increases in subsequent suicide rates (Phillips, 1974, 1979; Kuess and Hatzinger, 1986; Michel et al., 1995). Repetitive reporting on the same suicide and definitive labeling of the death as a suicide have also been associated with greater increases in subsequent suicide rates (Niederkrotenthaler et al., 2009, 2010). Content analyses of suicide newspaper reports from six countries with different suicide rates (Austria, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Japan, and the United States) found that attitudes toward suicide in newspaper reports varied by country, and that national suicide rates were higher in countries where media attitudes toward suicide were more accepting (Hungary) and suicide completers were more positively portrayed (Japan) (Fekete et al., 2001). Conversely, national suicide rates were lower in countries (Finland, Germany, and the United States) where reporting tended to portray the suicide victim and act of suicide in terms of psychopathology and abnormality, and to describe the negative consequences of the suicide. Moreover, media stories about individuals with suicidal ideation who used adaptive coping strategies to handle adverse events and did not attempt suicide have been negatively associated with subsequent suicide rates (Niederkrotenthaler et al., 2010).
The impact of media reporting on subsequent suicides is not monolithic, but interacts with characteristics of the reported suicide and characteristics of the media audience, as well as with characteristics of the media portrayal, as noted above. For example, celebrity suicides are more likely and the suicides of criminals are less likely to be followed by increased suicide rates (Stack, 2003; Niederkrotenthaler et al., 2009); individuals with a recent history of suicide attempt and/or a concurrent severe depression are more likely to attempt suicide in the wake of a media report (Cheng et al., 2007a,b)."
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Jon Fitch's greatest UFC hits:
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