War Room Lounge v171: That sounds like the first thing a newly sentient crow would say.

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Sketch said:
Not speaking on proud boys, but actual White Nationalists Neo types think like this;

They'll allow some Asians, preferably Japanese, followed by Koreans. Chinese are seen as enemies but can be worked with if they show submissiveness, although they can never be allowed to grow, and must be watched closely. Black guys can fit the mold too if they 'act white' and show submissiveness, but the overall idea is no new black people, aka non American black people are ever allowed in the new society. Brown men in general, big no as well, although some Indian men will be allowed if they 'act white' and show submissiveness, again they must never be allowed to grow and must be watched closely. South Americans are an interesting one, there is debate on their whiteness in Uruguay, Chile and south Brazil and Argentina mainly. However the sentiment at the end of the day is they aren't fully white and should not be allowed either. Mestizos and up are generally seen as a no go the same way black people are viewed. Of all the races Asians are the only ones sort of seen as allies. As for Jewish people, there is a zero tolerance policy.

Natives are supposedly ok. The idea is they stay distant at all times and trade can take place, however there is no outright goal of 'shipping them off' or 'finishing the job' as there is with other races.
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Now really blow their mind and tell these normies how in Cali prisons, the Mexican gangs and the AB, Skins and Woods all have an alliance together.

Brown Pride and White Pride rolling together. Crazy.
 
skysolo said:
Neo-lib, neo libbing.

Biden has my vote now.

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Limbo Pete said:
Absolutely neo fascist, at the very least
Their Venn diagram overlaps with white nationalist hogwash to such an extent that it's basically just a single circle. Keep in mind that white nationalist groups will be the first to yell that they aren't actually racist and are, in fact, encompassing of all people.
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Yeah Joey with PP is a slippery fella. It was a Navy vet who infiltrated the Proud Boys and recorded Ngo helping them coordinate one of their attacks on Cider Ruot a few years back where a Proud Boy beat that girl unconscious with a baton and broke her vertebrae.

I remember around June seeing Tiny in Seattle violating parole when they jumped that photographer because they were riding without plates and brandishing pistols, he's looking at a year last I saw from that incident.

The Guardian posted leaked wechat messages recently that are an interesting read. There's a couple sites that have dossiers on all the dudes involved. Haven't checked the follow up on it though. I know they're pretty well infiltrated at this point though, and if random dudes are infiltrating their gang you know that the Feds deep as fuck.

Just saw they arrested one Proud Boy for aiming a handgun at people recently.

The video I posted is making the rounds all over social media, interesting to see what effect that's going to have on moderate voters.
 
Fawlty said:
@HockeyBjj I just saw the Twins' 9th inning. That was such unlucky shit. Romo's pitching was siiiiiiick. My condolences.
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18 consecutive playoff losses. Just unfathomable. How do you go back to slushing your way through a 162 game regular season next year? Just like, what’s the point?

That first game just hurt. Should have been out of the top of the 9th inning tied but Polonco makes the 2 out error to load the bases then the go ahead run gets walked home. He had only made 2 errors on the season until then.
 
AgonyandIrony said:
Yeah Joey with PP is a slippery fella. It was a Navy vet who infiltrated the Proud Boys and recorded Ngo helping them coordinate one of their attacks on Cider Ruot a few years back where a Proud Boy beat that girl unconscious with a baton and broke her vertebrae.

I remember around June seeing Tiny in Seattle violating parole when they jumped that photographer because they were riding without plates and brandishing pistols, he's looking at a year last I saw from that incident.

The Guardian posted leaked wechat messages recently that are an interesting read. There's a couple sites that have dossiers on all the dudes involved. Haven't checked the follow up on it though. I know they're pretty well infiltrated at this point though, and if random dudes are infiltrating their gang you know that the Feds deep as fuck.

Just saw they arrested one Proud Boy for aiming a handgun at people recently.

The video I posted is making the rounds all over social media, interesting to see what effect that's going to have on moderate voters.
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Its hilarious how an entire antifa platoon can't handle Tiny.

Even more hilarious is that antifa believes in using violence against innocent people yet when met with violence they cry victim.
 
Gregolian said:
They have to be
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I actually have a bit of faith in this happening.

It's extremely popular and right before the election.

Trump just has to lean on the Senate. Do any of them want to have Trump tweeting at them during the election? Nope
 
PolishHeadlock2 said:
I actually have a bit of faith in this happening.

It's extremely popular and right before the election.

Trump just has to lean on the Senate. Do any of them want to have Trump tweeting at them during the election? Nope
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McConnell is the biggest obstacle. Old fuck has his and doesn’t want anyone else to get a leg up.
 
Jack V Savage said:
@Tycho Brah, given that you're the only good poster who voted for Trump in the poll, I'd like to see you make the case for him having won that.
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Yea I mean that's not really the case I want to be making lol - and actually I'm pretty surprised at the poll results and some of the reporting I've skimmed on other outcomes and takeaways from last night - but I'd echo @Trotsky in saying that I thought Trump accomplished much more of what I'd want him to if I was a Trump voter than Biden did if I was a Biden voter.

Maybe that's the wrong lens to look at this through, especially since debate interpretations are largely projections of pre-existing opinions in my experience, but I'm really trying to keep myself out of any media bubbles for this election and viewing the raw footage openly where I can. I thought Trump made a lot of concise declarative statements about what he did and why that would appeal to his base. I thought he was quicker to respond to Biden, he crowded the mic effectively and dropped all the buzzwords and intuition pumps into it that he could have, and made enough claims quickly enough that no fact-checker could have kept up. He showed strength where his base would want him to (not allowing himself to be slandered, refusing to condemn Proud Boys as White Supremacists) and conceded just enough to avoid sounding crazy (climate change, Biden's dead son) without giving away much ground. He didn't even let himself get buried by his response to COVID-19. The only fault in his presentation was that the ceaseless interrupting started to look desperate, and the gotcha of dissociating Biden from the Far Left didn't make a lot of sense to me.

Biden hit a few points well, he spoke best when directing himself toward the American people directly imo, but even then his position came off too much as pleading. I didn't get a sense of urgency from him, and I don't know why he couldn't look the audience in the eye and explain in genuine terms the gravity of what is at stake here. A couple times Trump left himself wide open for attack and Biden shifted to the next talking point on an agenda, like he had a practiced repertoire of points to make and couldn't react beyond that. He also was forced to respond to Trump on things like the Green New Deal and accusations about his son when he could have dismissed them as lunatic ravings. I certainly agree with most of his policy prescriptions but I didn't think he brought much explanation to them other than they were something while Trump was offering nothing. I also didn't feel like he conveyed an intention to represent a unified Democratic party.

Ultimately Trump voters have a much lower bar for what they want to hear - a strongman dominating the stage and refusing to back down, while peppering talking points and persecution language into his presentation enough to make them feel like he has their back despite everything against him. I think a lot of them are probably tired of the spectacle and upset at the coronavirus response, and the lack of accountability for that might finally sting a value that alters their landscape a little bit. But I don't see why the debate would. Biden voters saw an old man who probably can't keep up with information as well as they can get flustered and communicate a few commonsense positions in a practiced way. Some seem to be responding to his professionalism or something, but I was pretty disappointed myself. I don't think he could have been effectively unprofessional if he'd wanted to.

If were debating Trump, I'd focus on:

1. Trump fucked up COVID-19. A ton of people died and more are losing and will continue to lose jobs. Most of the West has done better.
2. Trump never belonged in the White House, and folded under pressure. However, half of America got to feel heard. We'll do better for them now without destroying the nation.
3. Trump can't be trusted. He's a despotic liar who will say anything to dodge accountability. Stop listening to him.
4. Complex challenges will continue to have consequences like COVID-19 and the California fires. Let's get in front of them with reasonable legislation and regulation.
5. China is coming. America needs to be unified, and Americans need empathy for each other.

It doesn't seem very hard to me.
 
"I didn't support it then and I don't support it now."

Well, that's it. He definitely has my vote during a pandemic.

 
skysolo said:
"I didn't support it then and I don't support it now."

Well, that's it. He definitely has my vote during a pandemic.

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Watching Trump accuse Biden of being the candidate I want, and Biden saying "no I'm not" is a weird feeling.

Biden would have a better chance at winning if he gave in and became that candidate lmao.
 
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